Facetious
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Post by Facetious on Dec 14, 2022 13:03:40 GMT -5
Tony has a huge announcement coming! AEW Heels is gonna take off
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Post by Killah Ray on Dec 14, 2022 13:04:11 GMT -5
Everyone keeps mentioning incidents that happened during the old regime which means much of nothing honestly. Hell apparently they just gave an ultimatum to Riddle either go to rehab or be fired.
Some dickhead probably sent the pictures to a sponsor and then said sponsor got into the E’s ear is what I’d wager happened in this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 13:04:12 GMT -5
To be fair it was completely preventable and her fault. Let's not act like she is absolved of all responsibility here I don't see how you got that from what I said... but ok. Sorry I certainly wasn't trying to offend you there just seems to be an overwhelming amount of "poor Mandy" right now throughout wrestling social and we have to call a spade a spade because this was completely preventable. Fair is a different question but if she was released solely on the fact that she was posting adult content and was asked not to do so then it's her fault.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 13:04:15 GMT -5
On one hand, yes she had been told to stop and kept going. On the other hand, WWE has a history of exploitation of it's workers (HLA, Playboy, Kiss my Ass Club). Plus they're "independent contractors" in the first place, let them have their side hustle. Hell, I'm pretty plugged into the internet and I only just now learned of her stuff. I doubt little kids were going to find out or anything. All it takes is one whistleblower going to the media and it becomes a news story. It's less about the little kids finding out and more about the adults who have the little kids finding out. It's definitely stupid, but that's my sense of how this shit has always worked.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 14, 2022 13:06:24 GMT -5
Tony has a huge announcement coming! If I remember right, NXT talent only have a 30 day non compete, so she could appear in AEW or Impact next month. Would she have a 30 day even if she used to be on the main roster?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 13:08:19 GMT -5
If I remember right, NXT talent only have a 30 day non compete, so she could appear in AEW or Impact next month. Would she have a 30 day even if she used to be on the main roster? I think that's the thing too, would she technically still be on a main roster contract in a reverse Alistair Black sort of way or did they sign her to a new NXT one? Because I doubt they'd go through that effort if her contract was extended or anything.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 13:08:29 GMT -5
Dakota Kai, Mia Yim and Johnny Gargano & Candice Lerae have been streaming on Twitch so it ain't that. They aren't making the kind of money Mandy is making. Sex work is insane money I will die on the hill Mandy was making nowhere near the top level money that some sex workers do and I mean the absoloute 1% I knew a woman who was making 50 to 100k a month as a cam model. So unless Mandy was on a cam site and getting atleast 90k viewers every night she was on and those guys and gals were hittin her with 5000 every single time they gave her money I would have no doubt those that were named make more on twitch than Mandy does as a supposed sex worker.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 14, 2022 13:09:02 GMT -5
Tony has a huge announcement coming! If I remember right, NXT talent only have a 30 day non compete, so she could appear in AEW or Impact next month. Mandy Rose was a Main Roster Superstar that got sent down to NXT. So wouldn't her contract be a main roster one meaning she'd have a 90-day non-compete?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 13:09:22 GMT -5
On one hand, yes she had been told to stop and kept going. On the other hand, WWE has a history of exploitation of it's workers (HLA, Playboy, Kiss my Ass Club). Plus they're "independent contractors" in the first place, let them have their side hustle. Hell, I'm pretty plugged into the internet and I only just now learned of her stuff. I doubt little kids were going to find out or anything. All it takes is one whistleblower going to the media and it becomes a news story. It's less about the little kids finding out and more about the adults who have the little kids finding out. It's definitely stupid, but that's my sense of how this shit has always worked. nailed it
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Post by PKO on Dec 14, 2022 13:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 13:09:50 GMT -5
Would she have a 30 day even if she used to be on the main roster? I think that's the thing too, would she technically still be on a main roster contract in a reverse Alistair Black sort of way or did they sign her to a new NXT one? Because I doubt they'd go through that effort if her contract was extended or anything. I think the other thing to keep in mind here is if she was willing to die on this hill, which it seems she was, she probably doesn't want to keep wrestling. That's my guess, at least. She can do this and signings and make bank without taking a single bump.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 14, 2022 13:11:34 GMT -5
Is it that shocking that a company wouldn’t want their talent selling nude photos of them engaged in sex acts and posting them on the internet for money?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 13:12:07 GMT -5
I think that's the thing too, would she technically still be on a main roster contract in a reverse Alistair Black sort of way or did they sign her to a new NXT one? Because I doubt they'd go through that effort if her contract was extended or anything. I think the other thing to keep in mind here is if she was willing to die on this hill, which it seems she was, she probably doesn't want to keep wrestling. That's my guess, at least. She can do this and signings and make bank without taking a single bump. All that's true, too. There's a lot of this that we still don't really know about yet. But I'll stand by my view that this seems like a minor reason to fire someone regardless of the context compared to consistently putting lives in danger in a motor vehicle. Hot take, I know.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 14, 2022 13:12:18 GMT -5
WWE don't wanna let someone on their TV after having consensual sex, but let Vince prance around after the details came out about all the dodgy stuff he did. Have stuff from your site leaked? Released. Associate with white nationalists? Perfectly fine and we’ll steal a gimmick for you. Put people in danger by drinking and driving? Insanely long tag title reign. This company still sucks.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 14, 2022 13:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 13:12:53 GMT -5
Is it that shocking that a company wouldn’t want their talent selling nude photos of them engaged in sex acts and posting them on the internet? I agree to an extent, but as others have rightfully pointed out in this thread, they've also done the same shit for years and years while also pretending that their talent are employees when they're not.
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Post by Killah Ray on Dec 14, 2022 13:13:00 GMT -5
I really hate it for them because it really feels like the money is on the trio rather than as a tag team…
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 14, 2022 13:13:14 GMT -5
Only thing I can really say is maybe they will have her come back and this was a release in regards of we will bring you back in 3 months
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Post by ANuclearError on Dec 14, 2022 13:13:52 GMT -5
Was her in-ring used on the site/content in question? I know they're basically the same (Mandy Rose vs Amanda Rose Saccomanno), but I wonder if WWE felt there was an issue if the phrase "Mandy Rose" was used.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 13:14:21 GMT -5
I think the other thing to keep in mind here is if she was willing to die on this hill, which it seems she was, she probably doesn't want to keep wrestling. That's my guess, at least. She can do this and signings and make bank without taking a single bump. All that's true, too. There's a lot of this that we still don't really know about yet. But I'll stand by my view that this seems like a minor reason to fire someone regardless of the context compared to consistently putting lives in danger in a motor vehicle. Hot take, I know. I read something that said that nobody's wrong here and when you look at it in a vacuum, that's right, but you're right to point out that the way they handle "talent misconduct" is, well, uh, inconsistent, to say the least. I recognize that "talent misconduct" also doesn't properly describe the Uso's behavior.
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