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Post by greyfmdan on Dec 31, 2022 18:17:20 GMT -5
Like, didn’t we have this entire discussion when Punk was teased and people acting like there was a possibility that it wasn’t Punk and that TK would never live it down if it wasn’t? It’s Sasha. It’s not anybody else but Sasha. Outside of a major circumstances, the announcement isn’t going to be a single other person unless, like, Becky somehow becomes a free agent in the next couple of weeks. In fairness, I think a lot of that sentiment stems from the Christian incident, where it was hyped up to be someone bigger. (TBF, it was more fans hyping it up as someone else than Tony or AEW, but it was still hyped enough that some fans were understandably disappointed.) That said, I do think Tony learned from that and isn’t going to pull something that might be perceived as a blatant bait & switch.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 31, 2022 18:38:36 GMT -5
I’m gonna be there and if it is thunder rosa I’m hiding under my chair It not being Sasha might be the thing that finally does Twitter in for good.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 31, 2022 18:40:32 GMT -5
I'm always surprised to see Christian's debut used as an example of overhyping something. Christian was a big star in TNA and WWE and had literally just returned from a career ending retirement at the Royal Rumble. The fact that WWE would bring him back and then the dude would just dip to join AEW a few weeks later seemed like a big deal to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 18:41:45 GMT -5
I’m gonna be there and if it is thunder rosa I’m hiding under my chair It not being Sasha might be the thing that finally does Twitter in for good. in that case somebody f***ing call tamina theres a job to do
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 31, 2022 18:54:47 GMT -5
I'm always surprised to see Christian's debut used as an example of overhyping something. Christian was a big star in TNA and WWE and had literally just returned from a career ending retirement at the Royal Rumble. The fact that WWE would bring him back and then the dude would just dip to join AEW a few weeks later seemed like a big deal to me. Same. I still think it’s insane he wasn’t immediately signed to do an E&C reunion considering the dude came back on the 20th anniversary year of the formation of Edge and Christian! Like…the t-shirts would have been easy money!
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Post by greyfmdan on Jan 1, 2023 2:20:50 GMT -5
I'm always surprised to see Christian's debut used as an example of overhyping something. Christian was a big star in TNA and WWE and had literally just returned from a career ending retirement at the Royal Rumble. The fact that WWE would bring him back and then the dude would just dip to join AEW a few weeks later seemed like a big deal to me. I assume you’re referring to my comment, since I think I was the first to bring up Christian in the thread. So apparently, further explanation/defense of my position is warranted. I don’t disagree with any point you raised. But from what I gathered, the collective response of the fandom when Christian came out seemed to largely be a collective “meh.” Rightly or wrongly, the fandom sees him as a lifelong upper-midcarder/occasional main eventer, albeit a legendary one. So when certain elements of the fandom had talked themselves into it possibly being Brock or Cena or who knows who, it was going to seem like something of a disappointment. In fairness to Tony, he never hyped it to be Brock/Cena/etc., and I don’t believe it was a bait & switch on his part. But I can understand where some fans read too much into the secrecy & were a bit underwhelmed. The broader point being, I do think Tony is determined to deliver big on this and not let there be any feeling of disappointment.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2023 4:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 1, 2023 4:33:08 GMT -5
I'm always surprised to see Christian's debut used as an example of overhyping something. Christian was a big star in TNA and WWE and had literally just returned from a career ending retirement at the Royal Rumble. The fact that WWE would bring him back and then the dude would just dip to join AEW a few weeks later seemed like a big deal to me. Plus any overhyping was done by the internet. AEW literally only said "we've signed a big-ish name".
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 1, 2023 4:44:29 GMT -5
Clearly referring to the new start WWE has received under new management; she's back at Raw this Monday.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 1, 2023 8:14:45 GMT -5
I'm always surprised to see Christian's debut used as an example of overhyping something. Christian was a big star in TNA and WWE and had literally just returned from a career ending retirement at the Royal Rumble. The fact that WWE would bring him back and then the dude would just dip to join AEW a few weeks later seemed like a big deal to me. I assume you’re referring to my comment, since I think I was the first to bring up Christian in the thread. So apparently, further explanation/defense of my position is warranted. I don’t disagree with any point you raised. But from what I gathered, the collective response of the fandom when Christian came out seemed to largely be a collective “meh.” Rightly or wrongly, the fandom sees him as a lifelong upper-midcarder/occasional main eventer, albeit a legendary one. So when certain elements of the fandom had talked themselves into it possibly being Brock or Cena or who knows who, it was going to seem like something of a disappointment. In fairness to Tony, he never hyped it to be Brock/Cena/etc., and I don’t believe it was a bait & switch on his part. But I can understand where some fans read too much into the secrecy & were a bit underwhelmed. The broader point being, I do think Tony is determined to deliver big on this and not let there be any feeling of disappointment. Coincidentally I have said almost the same thing you did in regards to Christian's debut i do remember in interviews he did before the PPV that Tony was saying how excited he was for the debut and really hyping it as a huge get. So while AEW didn't really hype up who it was I do think Tony fanboyed a bit and it skewed some expectations. I do think Tony has learned a bit from that though just because the reaction from the fanbase was so mixed
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Post by greyfmdan on Jan 1, 2023 12:45:39 GMT -5
Coincidentally I have said almost the same thing you did in regards to Christian's debut i do remember in interviews he did before the PPV that Tony was saying how excited he was for the debut and really hyping it as a huge get. So while AEW didn't really hype up who it was I do think Tony fanboyed a bit and it skewed some expectations. I do think Tony has learned a bit from that though just because the reaction from the fanbase was so mixed Fully agreed. This was pretty much what I was getting at, though you may have expressed it better than I did.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 1, 2023 12:52:17 GMT -5
Hope Saraya drives a Mercedes to the show this week.
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Post by raymondo316 on Jan 1, 2023 13:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 1, 2023 13:06:13 GMT -5
The mystery partner will be revealed to be a newly babyface Serena Deeb with her old Wreslelicious appearance, thus debuting the women's tag team in AEW; the Paige Turners.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 1, 2023 14:17:59 GMT -5
I really hope it's Sasha because I wouldn't want to be the woman it actually is if it isn't her.
Maybe a surprise appearance from Kairi (Sane) would get over the initial disappointment, but anyone else is really doomed to fail.
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Post by XIII on Jan 1, 2023 14:20:11 GMT -5
It's going to be Natalya and Dana Brooke doing their best Hall and Nash debut impersonations. LMAO
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Jan 1, 2023 15:08:51 GMT -5
Hope Saraya drives a Mercedes to the show this week. Then she can throw the scent off by beating up a Ford. Penelope, that is.
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Post by XIII on Jan 1, 2023 15:10:49 GMT -5
I think that it would be more productive to actually announce Sasha this week instead of doing the vague clue nonsense. If she's free and clear and going to be there then announce her and drive up the hype and hopefully ratings.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2023 15:28:23 GMT -5
I think that it would be more productive to actually announce Sasha this week instead of doing the vague clue nonsense. If she's free and clear and going to be there then announce her and drive up the hype and hopefully ratings. I mean, you say that but the fastest selling show AEW did was off of minimally implying in the tiniest ways possible that CM Punk was showing up and considering a lot of people know at this point, it honestly wouldn’t make a difference if they announce it Wednesday or have her show up next week.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 1, 2023 15:29:43 GMT -5
I think that it would be more productive to actually announce Sasha this week instead of doing the vague clue nonsense. If she's free and clear and going to be there then announce her and drive up the hype and hopefully ratings. I mean, you say that but the fastest selling show AEW did was off of minimally implying in the tiniest ways possible that CM Punk was showing up and considering a lot of people know at this point, it honestly wouldn’t make a difference if they announce it Wednesday or have her show up next week. Part of the intrigue that makes you want to tune in (in theory) is that small doubt you have about who it might be.
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