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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 8:29:49 GMT -5
The problem with Ms EST is what I have been saying and it goes for any an all babyfaces. She is the worst kind and that is one with no flaw.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 3, 2023 8:31:06 GMT -5
The EST gimmick kind of feel heelish as a concept in general.
It’s like Mr. Perfect, but Curt Hennig was a heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 8:33:40 GMT -5
And as far as Alexa goes idk what it is.
Because she worked fine with IYO and that has been her best match in this run so far.
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Post by mistery on Jan 3, 2023 9:23:26 GMT -5
I think part of the problem basically boils down to Alexa is completely over the hill as well. And she pretty clearly doesn't seem like she wants to put forth much effort either considering she is just constantly looking bored. And like Fenderbaum said, her best match in her current run was against Iyo. But otherwise she has been uninvested.
As for Bianca, she is at the point where it feels like fans are starting to get sick of her act. Its a heel level act and I feel like WWE burned a lot of good will in regards to her, because she bulldozed over Damage CTRL, and made everyone in it look awful/have their worst matches.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 3, 2023 9:23:29 GMT -5
As others have said. Too many of Bianca’s matches are primarily about showing how “cool and powerful” she is. So you have this weird thing where the heels feel like the ones fighting from underneath. Also her selling is very hit or miss. IDK if it’s her, or if they’re telling her to do it that way, but it’s very noticeable at times. As for last night, I think Bianca also go legit frustrated/annoyed at how clunky the match was. You saw it before when she had a clunky match vs. Sonya awhile back as well. She struggles to hide her frustration when things go wrong at times.
It's hard to say. It's especially odd in her case because her actual bumping is generally good, it just gets rendered meaningless by the selling issues.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 3, 2023 9:27:35 GMT -5
I do think Bianca consistently has a problem in her matches of being way too dominating to where it doesn't come off like anyone even kind of stands as anything resembling a threat to her and her character would be vastly improved by, like, a kayfabe knee injury for people to target or something to at least have a noticeable weak spot to build stories around. That said the main problem with that match was Alexa. She just plain wasn't delivering. She had to abandon her CrossFit career due to intercostal chrondritis. So there's a built in story right there. I think that would be a great idea to increase google searches of "intercostal chrondritis"
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Post by mistery on Jan 3, 2023 17:40:15 GMT -5
For those curious, Petey Williams produced the Bianca/Alexa match last night. Obviously it's not entirely his fault, but more often than not he produces the worst women's matches on every show.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 3, 2023 19:55:23 GMT -5
Last night was 100 percent Alexa. She was atrocious the whole match. Constantly out of position, missing forearms by a mile, having to be told to "GET UP!" at one point by Bianca for a spot.
Bianca may be stale but, there's nothing she could have done to save that match.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 3, 2023 20:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 4, 2023 0:07:16 GMT -5
I do think Bianca consistently has a problem in her matches of being way too dominating to where it doesn't come off like anyone even kind of stands as anything resembling a threat to her and her character would be vastly improved by, like, a kayfabe knee injury for people to target or something to at least have a noticeable weak spot to build stories around.
For a while they were structuring her matches around the heel temporarily getting the advantage by messing with her hair, usually before she whipped them with it (Sasha at WM 37 is probably the best example), but that angle seems to have been dropped.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 4, 2023 0:14:05 GMT -5
The like "counters every move and can't look weak for one second" style is one of my least favorite to watch so I hope they stop structuring Bianca's matches that way, it does her no favors. While Alexa was tanking it in that match it was noticeable how lost Bianca looked as soon as anything went slightly awry too.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 4, 2023 9:22:36 GMT -5
With full bias that is still my girl idc idc idc
With that said, sis is OP tho lol
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 4, 2023 9:33:23 GMT -5
I have no idea if she could sell it worth a damn, but maybe do a powder spot and have her having to wrestle a match where she can't adequately see. The problem there, though, is not making the ref look like the hugest chump on the world if Bianca's got flour all over her face and hair and having to pretend he somehow cannot see it. Maybe just have a heel thumb her eye and have her at least sell that much for a little bit. No one's so strong they should be shrugging off their eyes being f***ed with.
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Post by Fade on Jan 4, 2023 16:40:38 GMT -5
With full bias that is still my girl idc idc idc With that said, sis is OP tho lol BIANCA IS OP THREAD! ! ! ! ! (I’m kidding I’m kidding dear god I am kidding)
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 4, 2023 16:46:34 GMT -5
I don’t know how you could blame Bianca for that match when Alexa currently moves like she just got new legs installed
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Jan 4, 2023 16:56:14 GMT -5
For those curious, Petey Williams produced the Bianca/Alexa match last night. Obviously it's not entirely his fault, but more often than not he produces the worst women's matches on every show. It kills me that Petey Williams' name is attached to like every notably bad womens match lately. Maple Leaf Menace.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 5, 2023 13:53:16 GMT -5
Alexa relies very heavily on heat and crowd investment in her matches. She really does well on the Smoke and Mirrors of professional wrestling. Big matches for her need to have a story to them to compensate for the in ring work. But in a situation like this where she's taking somebody on in what amounts to a random title match with an opponent who doesn't really adapt from opponent to opponent it doesn't exactly play to her strengths. I didn't watch so I can't commentate on this specific match but, yeah Character work and charisma is what got Alexa over not her amazing technical prowess.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 5, 2023 13:55:03 GMT -5
Alexa did respond to this basically confirming that's what they were doing too.
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Post by pinja on Jan 5, 2023 14:16:15 GMT -5
When your frame of reference is "Scary Movie 3" and you want to do spooky stuff with Bray Wyatt. =8|
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