Mochi Lone Wolf
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Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 6, 2023 18:36:31 GMT -5
People were joking that it would get a number like this even though AEW is the hottest it's felt in a good long while.
Very odd and disappointing.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jan 6, 2023 23:05:29 GMT -5
I just think it's weird that the community still relies so much on this metric. I do understand it, but it's such a dated statistic. I suppose the demo's are important but the number of viewers is so far off of what's accurate that it's crazy. There's a very likely possibility that AEW gets over a million real time viewers every show. This is obviously the case with every show on cable, but it's still worth mentioning.
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Dub H
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Post by Dub H on Jan 7, 2023 6:03:39 GMT -5
I just think it's weird that the community still relies so much on this metric. I do understand it, but it's such a dated statistic. I suppose the demo's are important but the number of viewers is so far off of what's accurate that it's crazy. There's a very likely possibility that AEW gets over a million real time viewers every show. This is obviously the case with every show on cable, but it's still worth mentioning. I still don't know why they aren't just allowed to directly count each person thay watches tv automatically I know some people say " privacy" but it is just which shows you are watching. Youtube and your phone steal 1000x information from you
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 7, 2023 6:45:56 GMT -5
I just think it's weird that the community still relies so much on this metric. I do understand it, but it's such a dated statistic. I suppose the demo's are important but the number of viewers is so far off of what's accurate that it's crazy. There's a very likely possibility that AEW gets over a million real time viewers every show. This is obviously the case with every show on cable, but it's still worth mentioning. This indeed has happened. Garcia vs Yuta for the Pure title was like 880K average viewership, and then there were comments lamenting that neither of them or the Pure title was a draw Then more specific data came out and said the peak of that match at the end reached like 1.1 Million viewers. Did anyone comment on it now that there was logical data and Garcia, Yuta, and the Pure title did in fact draw viewers though? Nope! Not cool enough of a topic when it actually succeeds I guess idk But there are multiple examples of this, and it's also why I keep saying that average viewership and even by the quarters breakdowns are not relative to something or someone succeeding or failing like some people try and paint it out to be And this does for WWE Ratings too, they just aren't microscoped as hard...
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jan 7, 2023 9:18:28 GMT -5
I just think it's weird that the community still relies so much on this metric. I do understand it, but it's such a dated statistic. I suppose the demo's are important but the number of viewers is so far off of what's accurate that it's crazy. There's a very likely possibility that AEW gets over a million real time viewers every show. This is obviously the case with every show on cable, but it's still worth mentioning. This indeed has happened. Garcia vs Yuta for the Pure title was like 880K average viewership, and then there were comments lamenting that neither of them or the Pure title was a draw Then more specific data came out and said the peak of that match at the end reached like 1.1 Million viewers. Did anyone comment on it now that there was logical data and Garcia, Yuta, and the Pure title did in fact draw viewers though? Nope! Not cool enough of a topic when it actually succeeds I guess idk But there are multiple examples of this, and it's also why I keep saying that average viewership and even by the quarters breakdowns are not relative to something or someone succeeding or failing like some people try and paint it out to be And this does for WWE Ratings too, they just aren't microscoped as hard... It's nothing more than a relic of the Monday Night Wars. I have the same argument when people lean on the old "Ex-WWE Guy" trope. Same shit people said in the 90's when WCW picked up so many of WWF's talent. WWF spun the narrative, and thanks to revisionist history (and TNA sucking), being a talent who was formerly in the WWE is somehow some type of burden for them to carry, as if they shouldn't seek employment elsewhere.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 7, 2023 11:54:33 GMT -5
I just think it's weird that the community still relies so much on this metric. I do understand it, but it's such a dated statistic. I suppose the demo's are important but the number of viewers is so far off of what's accurate that it's crazy. There's a very likely possibility that AEW gets over a million real time viewers every show. This is obviously the case with every show on cable, but it's still worth mentioning. This indeed has happened. Garcia vs Yuta for the Pure title was like 880K average viewership, and then there were comments lamenting that neither of them or the Pure title was a draw Then more specific data came out and said the peak of that match at the end reached like 1.1 Million viewers. Did anyone comment on it now that there was logical data and Garcia, Yuta, and the Pure title did in fact draw viewers though? Nope! Not cool enough of a topic when it actually succeeds I guess idk But there are multiple examples of this, and it's also why I keep saying that average viewership and even by the quarters breakdowns are not relative to something or someone succeeding or failing like some people try and paint it out to be And this does for WWE Ratings too, they just aren't microscoped as hard... It’s not the numbers in and of themselves. It’s the comparison over time to what they had done, what they’re doing now, cord cutting, etc. If you want to discuss the business side of things (and they are going to be negotiating a TV deal this year) then these are all very much relevant to that conversation.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jan 7, 2023 17:50:48 GMT -5
This indeed has happened. Garcia vs Yuta for the Pure title was like 880K average viewership, and then there were comments lamenting that neither of them or the Pure title was a draw Then more specific data came out and said the peak of that match at the end reached like 1.1 Million viewers. Did anyone comment on it now that there was logical data and Garcia, Yuta, and the Pure title did in fact draw viewers though? Nope! Not cool enough of a topic when it actually succeeds I guess idk But there are multiple examples of this, and it's also why I keep saying that average viewership and even by the quarters breakdowns are not relative to something or someone succeeding or failing like some people try and paint it out to be And this does for WWE Ratings too, they just aren't microscoped as hard... It’s not the numbers in and of themselves. It’s the comparison over time to what they had done, what they’re doing now, cord cutting, etc. If you want to discuss the business side of things (and they are going to be negotiating a TV deal this year) then these are all very much relevant to that conversation. I think we all understand that, my point is that I dont even understand why cable companies/stations even still use Nielsen or whoever because it's an ancient way of tallying total viewership.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 7, 2023 17:52:51 GMT -5
It’s not the numbers in and of themselves. It’s the comparison over time to what they had done, what they’re doing now, cord cutting, etc. If you want to discuss the business side of things (and they are going to be negotiating a TV deal this year) then these are all very much relevant to that conversation. I think we all understand that, my point is that I dont even understand why cable companies/stations even still use Nielsen or whoever because it's an ancient way of tallying total viewership. It’s been revamped in recent years, where they do take into account certain of the live TV streaming services for their numbers. And its still the best live viewership numbers that are available, which is what advertisers care about. And if advertisers care about it, that’s why stations care about it.
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