Possible Hart/Luger repeat at Rumble?

[Jonathan Michaels]

There has been some talk about whether they might split the titles and what better way to do it than have the final two eliminated at the exact same time and having each of them fight for one of the two world titles?

One can easily imagining Pearce making that call as punishment for the Bloodline’s recent assaults on the Raw roster.

[Jindrak Mark]

I just don't think there's any way you can end a Royal Rumble in a draw without pissing the live crowd off. They want to see a clear winner. They'll boo a draw/inconclusive finish just like they'd boo a PPV main event world title match ending in a DQ.

[PTBartman]

Jan 8, 2023 11:01:27 GMT -5 Jindrak Mark said:

I just don't think there's any way you can end a Royal Rumble in a draw without pissing the live crowd off. They want to see a clear winner. They'll boo a draw/inconclusive finish just like they'd boo a PPV main event world title match ending in a DQ.

What if one of the two is Sami?

[john84]

Jan 8, 2023 11:04:42 GMT -5 PTBartman said:

Jan 8, 2023 11:01:27 GMT -5 Jindrak Mark said:

I just don't think there's any way you can end a Royal Rumble in a draw without pissing the live crowd off. They want to see a clear winner. They'll boo a draw/inconclusive finish just like they'd boo a PPV main event world title match ending in a DQ.

What if one of the two is Sami?

You'd then have the crowd being pissed that Sami was denied his Rumble win.  Least that's the problem I could see with it.

Another issue I think is getting it to be as well done as it was with Luger/Hart especially since the camera technology has moved on from that period.

[CMWaters]

If they didn't do it in 05 when it made sense to do so, and the accident allowed them to call that audible, I don't think they'll do it now.

[polarbearpete]

I really don’t think they’re going to have Reigns wrestle two matches at Mania.

[Mid-Carder]

There's no need to do this or any other kind of shenanigans. Roman holds two titles, not a unified title, it's perfectly feasible that he'd have to defend both separately. You can have two contenders, one via winning the Rumble and one via the February PPV

[Mr Captain Falcon]

I think after the Undertaker vs Mark Henry cage match ended any chance of a dual winner. Taker landed a full second before Henry and it was declared a draw because they manipulated the video footage. I believe in one frame you see takers feet touching the floor and Henry JUST jumped down, while in the other it shows Henry landing at the same time. They don't want to put themselves in this predicament especially with something as important as the rumble.

[ChitownKnight]

Jan 8, 2023 11:57:29 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

There's no need to do this or any other kind of shenanigans. Roman holds two titles, not a unified title, it's perfectly feasible that he'd have to defend both separately. You can have two contenders, one via winning the Rumble and one via the February PPV

Yeah but why do it at mania of all places? I mean he’s the big bad, it won’t mean as much if he has both his titles taken away or if he loses a match after having to wrestle the previous night

[MolotovMocktail]

Not a bad idea, but what I would like to see at Mania is the WM10 format of two title defenses with a challenger wrestling an extra match first, instead of always sticking people in a Triple Threat.

[yokohamacpfc]

I think they will have a WM X inspired main event where Roman defends his titles on both nights but his challenger has to wrestle on both nights too.

So night 1: Roman v Cody (Rumble winner), and say any two of Zayn, Owens, Brock, Solo, Rollins (if fit), Lashley, Wyatt, or Nakamura face off for the no 1 contendership of the title Cody isn't wrestling for and have Roman v match winner on night 2.

The pair that wrestles for the title shot on night one can be the RR iron man v RR most eliminations, the three of the final four who didn't win (no 1 contendership is a 3-way), or winners of respective EC matches at the Feb PPV.

[lildude8218]

Is Bret strong enough to pick up Lex and his wheelchair at this point though?

[fw91]

Jan 8, 2023 11:57:29 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

There's no need to do this or any other kind of shenanigans. Roman holds two titles, not a unified title, it's perfectly feasible that he'd have to defend both separately. You can have two contenders, one via winning the Rumble and one via the February PPV

Has that ever actually been confirmed?

[agent817]

Jan 8, 2023 11:08:47 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

If they didn't do it in 05 when it made sense to do so, and the accident allowed them to call that audible, I don't think they'll do it now.

The 1994 finish felt like it was planned. The 2005 finish didn't. Hence why both Cena and Batista had to redo the finish.

[polarbearpete]

Jan 8, 2023 22:22:19 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Jan 8, 2023 11:57:29 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

There's no need to do this or any other kind of shenanigans. Roman holds two titles, not a unified title, it's perfectly feasible that he'd have to defend both separately. You can have two contenders, one via winning the Rumble and one via the February PPV

Has that ever actually been confirmed?

www.wwe.com/superstars

[CMWaters]

Jan 9, 2023 10:41:30 GMT -5 agent817 said:

Jan 8, 2023 11:08:47 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

If they didn't do it in 05 when it made sense to do so, and the accident allowed them to call that audible, I don't think they'll do it now.

The 1994 finish felt like it was planned. The 2005 finish didn't. Hence why both Cena and Batista had to redo the finish.

From almost all stories I've heard, 05 wasn't planned. Batista was to win, but there was the slip up. Hence why I said they could have called an audible with how that worked out, but they didn't when they had the chance and it would have worked since Cena was getting his title shot anyway (though we would have lost the Batista thumbs down segment most likely).

[Mid-Carder]

Jan 8, 2023 22:22:19 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Jan 8, 2023 11:57:29 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

There's no need to do this or any other kind of shenanigans. Roman holds two titles, not a unified title, it's perfectly feasible that he'd have to defend both separately. You can have two contenders, one via winning the Rumble and one via the February PPV

Has that ever actually been confirmed?

Yes. It's mentioned all the time that he has two titles. His match with then-WWE champion Brock Lesnar at Mania 37 was a Winner Takes All, not a unification.

[Dang!]

Do they have a strict "no phones" policy at PPVs? If not, it's pretty much impossible to pull off today without a HUGE risk of botching themselves out of the planned outcome. There's always the risk of botching a Rumble outcome, but a double elimination is just unplannable in these days.

[john84]

Jan 9, 2023 13:52:09 GMT -5 Dang! said:

Do they have a strict "no phones" policy at PPVs? If not, it's pretty much impossible to pull off today without a HUGE risk of botching themselves out of the planned outcome. There's always the risk of botching a Rumble outcome, but a double elimination is just unplannable in these days.

That's a big reason as to why I doubt they'll ever try it again, 1994 was a simpler time in that regard.

[nisidhe]

Jan 9, 2023 13:52:09 GMT -5 Dang! said:

Do they have a strict "no phones" policy at PPVs? If not, it's pretty much impossible to pull off today without a HUGE risk of botching themselves out of the planned outcome. There's always the risk of botching a Rumble outcome, but a double elimination is just unplannable in these days.

I would imagine that, for safety reasons, they can't actually ban cell phones from the arena. If there's any kind of emergency, personnel would need to get to the situation very quickly and may rely on cell phones pinpointing the location to cut down on time spent.

It may be a different thing at smaller venues when the time saved is negligible, but in a major arena with a high-stress event (and wrestling can still be stressful), the balance would tip in the other direction.