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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 28, 2023 2:21:31 GMT -5
The pancake hot lava spot is where I draw the line. Hitting the barricade ala Morrison is cool. the worst part of the pancake spot to me also is that it isn't how he got back in hte ring either. he got back in the ring with the cheerleader toss spot, AND one of Kofi's feet did hit the floor...
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Jan 28, 2023 5:21:59 GMT -5
No, and this is coming from someone who has Kofi in their top 5 favorite wrestlers ever
It was cool at first, but now it is just convoluted and obvious that it is coming.
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Post by msc on Jan 28, 2023 6:40:10 GMT -5
I love the pancake spot. Because the save is that catapult ten feet in the air which is insane athleticism. I can forgive stupid setup for that reveal.
Telling that in the five years since then, Kofi 2019 spot got crickets, there was none in 2020 or 2021, and the 2022 spot was blown. It's like him becoming WWE champ killed the Spot but even in 2019 they had run out of ideas.
In 2019 Xavier saves him and carries him to the ring. Then both are eliminated because they weren't watching Drew.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 28, 2023 6:45:31 GMT -5
I've heard it's the same reason that having wrist tape, etc, is legal, but taping your fists in a match for a loaded punch isn't legal. One's your gear, the other is something added after the fact, so it'd be different if Kofi wore pancakes on his feet to the ring. Still a stupid spot, though, in part since the pancakes bit was boring by then. It's kind of like how there was that period where everyone was trying to "Skin the Cat" like Shawn, even in non-over the top elimination matches, and it got really old, especially since most of the people doing it took goddamn forever. Yo, I watched a Rumble the other day and motherf***ing Skinner randomly did the skin the cat move in like the 5 or 6 minutes that he was even in the thing. I mean... it was in his name.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 28, 2023 7:02:27 GMT -5
Like everything, the first few were cool like the handstand and the chair spot from the commentators table to the ring.
But then they dragged it out..Like why would Rusev just gently lay him on the barrier?, etc.
and the fact that he would end up getting thrown out seconds later made it all kind of pointless.
I like Kofi but I wouldn't be that upset if they retired the Kofi Spot or atleast not every year.
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Post by Killah Ray on Jan 28, 2023 7:59:17 GMT -5
With her Ninja Warrior background, just give the spot to Katana Chance…the shimmy up the ring post spot she did one year was crazy…
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2023 8:21:38 GMT -5
Like others have said, the issue is that it's athleticism for athleticism's sake, and doesn't really do anything to tell a story in the match or show us anything about the wrestler doing it beyond "they're very athletic."
There's a place for that, obviously, it can definitely elicit a big reaction from a crowd, but if you turn it into something that's just expected to happen every year it loses basically all of its luster right away.
If it's used to tell the story of the wrestler's perseverance and informs their character or plays a role in the match's outcome, cool, but a regular spot for the sake of "hey, looky here!" has, again to parrot others, big time diminishing returns.
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 28, 2023 9:16:59 GMT -5
I honestly think he peaked with the very first one where he walked on his hands to the stairs. I would have said the time he was launched over the turnbuckle and landed back first with his feet on the stairs, but then I remembered that was an Andre Battle Royal spot.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 28, 2023 10:15:32 GMT -5
“Hey he’s upside down with only his legs in the ring. Let me gently push his legs into an upright position so he can handstand”
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Post by krozor on Jan 28, 2023 10:30:09 GMT -5
I want one year of a heel Kofi who becomes the Rumble Spoiler - have him eliminated early when he fails his Rumble spot, and he spends the rest of the match lurking around, avoiding the refs outside, and ruining anyone else who tries a Rumble save spot. It was cool when Morrison did it, made sense for his gimmick. Kofi did it and it was "Cool, that thing again!!!" Now, it's just kinda lame. It would be like, if when Jake threw Damien in the ring to get at Andre and then guys for no reason started throwing snakes in to clear the ring. It's really cool the first time, it's ok the second, after that.....meh. Actually, never mind, I want a two or three month run where everyone gets snakes. Everyone just showing up with snakes to clear the ring, until either eventually they all have snakes and it's mutually assssssured desssstruction and the snakes cancel each other out, or they all admit having snakes on the road all the time is too much for them.
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Post by fg on Jan 28, 2023 11:41:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't say you were crazy. I mean the pancake spot which I think was only last year was like ''they're scraping the barrel now'' for the spot and I do agree that it'd be more fun if it wasn't ''expected'' so to speak. I think the earlier spots were better but more recently Naomi's were better the last couple of times. The Pancake spot was 2018. Which is the one I really hated... since at that point why not start arguing your shoes aren't your FEET touching. I don't really mind the fancy barricade hops and stuff... they should go a few years without doing it. So it's less expected. Honestly, the BEST of the spots recently was Austin Theory kipping up and ruining the spot. You mean Austin was thrown out AND then KIPPED UP? If that’s true, than man what an idiot.
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Post by fg on Jan 28, 2023 11:44:22 GMT -5
Like everything, the first few were cool like the handstand and the chair spot from the commentators table to the ring. But then they dragged it out..Like why would Rusev just gently lay him on the barrier?, etc. and the fact that he would end up getting thrown out seconds later made it all kind of pointless. I like Kofi but I wouldn't be that upset if they retired the Kofi Spot or atleast not every year. How about in 2015 where Kofi got thrown out and the Rosebuds (Adam Rose’s friends), being idiots threw him back in? Doesn’t help that the crowd booed the entire match due to Brian Danielson being eliminated.
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Post by salz4life on Jan 28, 2023 12:36:54 GMT -5
It was fun the first couple times.... it's definitely run its course at this point.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 28, 2023 13:17:33 GMT -5
The only Kofi Spot I still want to see is as he is being thrown over he begins to flap his arms where just before his feet touch the floor he realises he has the ability to fly, he then flies back into the ring.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 28, 2023 13:18:36 GMT -5
It was fun the first couple times.... it's definitely run its course at this point. Pretty much. The first few were really cool but then they were really stretching for new spots to come up with.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 28, 2023 13:24:07 GMT -5
The Pancake spot was 2018. Which is the one I really hated... since at that point why not start arguing your shoes aren't your FEET touching. I don't really mind the fancy barricade hops and stuff... they should go a few years without doing it. So it's less expected. Honestly, the BEST of the spots recently was Austin Theory kipping up and ruining the spot. You mean Austin was thrown out AND then KIPPED UP? If that’s true, than man what an idiot. it was intentional, it was an NXT rumble and he was doing his himbo character.
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Post by mc74 on Jan 28, 2023 13:30:27 GMT -5
I liked it when it was a rarity and the spot made sense, but because WWE kept going back to the well with it while coming up with the most ridiculous spots imaginable, they ruined it.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 28, 2023 13:42:12 GMT -5
I’m fine with it but generally annoyed that it signposts categorically that Kofi ain’t gonna win. They’re not taking that level of risk with the winner like or even someone that’s going to be a big part of the match. The Kofiverse of spots, if you will.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 28, 2023 13:44:36 GMT -5
get rid of it, have someone eliminate themselves over how furious they get because of it and just kick the shit out of him for it and leave
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Post by chazraps on Jan 28, 2023 14:08:08 GMT -5
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