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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 21, 2023 11:36:12 GMT -5
I feel like Jay would be great in AEW, but it’s like when people said “oh Tyler Black would be great in Impact” back in the day. Like..duh, but I feel like being in WWE would be something different for the dude than doing a ‘hey remember the Bullet Club let’s just put on bangers with a meh story’ that hampered Adam Cole in AEW imo. But maybe that’s just me wanting people to like..evolve their characters. Honestly, I think you're more likely to see him evolve his character in some way in AEW than in WWE, at least if we work off the assumption that he'd be hyped as a guy who led "the same group Balor and AJ led." His writing out of NJPW was very definitive, and the clear storyline right now there is that there'll have to be a new Bullet Club leader, but that the leadership void is now bigger than it's ever been before when other leaders have left; if he goes to AEW, that tells me he wouldn't be arriving as BC affiliated any longer. I'd more put odds that he has some kind of change in mind regardless of where he goes, though. I just hope people realize that so much of what makes this guy special is the way he subverts what you expect to happen in the ring; he's physically gifted enough to put on great matches, sure, but what puts him on another level is way he leans into the in-ring tropes of the heroes he's fighting to thwart them, so much so that his greatest kryptonite was usually heels with higher bloodlust levels (e.g. his definitive loss to Minoru Suzuki in the G1 a few years ago).
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Post by Fade on Feb 21, 2023 13:23:02 GMT -5
I really think they need to give him vignettes to hype his way if he comes in. I kno I’m jumping the gun but I’m excited lol If he is officially coming i'd def have vignettes hyping him up However, they rightfully can't resist that mega after RAW pop he would get for showing up. If we do get Cena/Theory and Cena beats him, having White coming out to accept a challenge would be a hype moment I had a random thought of how cool vignettes would be of dude riding around in a Kawasaki motorcycle, maybe from Japan. The whole neon, drive aesthetic. It ends with them reaching LA and the WrestleMania sign mirrored off their helmet. I don’t even know if homey rides motorcycles tho Lmao I wonder if Jay White came in how much would change about his presentation. Can't say f*** 80 times anymore, probably would get flashier gear, could see them wanting to change his finisher and maybe ditch the Switchblade name... Good point actually. Cause the Switchblade stuff probably wouldn’t fly. It seems like he’d need a fresh coat of paint, honestly.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 21, 2023 13:29:34 GMT -5
If Jay does come in, I hope it's on SmackDown because Corey is going to say such rambling shit to try to get him over and my eyes will roll straight out of my head.
Stuff like "the man who was once the king of the blade in Japan is here to stab anyone in the back who attempts to keep him from getting to what he feels is his destiny"
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 21, 2023 14:03:32 GMT -5
I don't think a storyline beat purely meant to write Jay White out of New Japan is going to have any real effect on where he actually signs. He'll go to whoever's courting him and probably where it makes the most sense for him personally. Let's not act like Gedo is holding a gun to Jay's or Tony Khan or Scott D'Amore's head saying "He is the loser who left New Japan."
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 21, 2023 14:20:22 GMT -5
I don't think a storyline beat purely meant to write Jay White out of New Japan is going to have any real effect on where he actually signs. He'll go to whoever's courting him and probably where it makes the most sense for him personally. Let's not act like Gedo is holding a gun to Jay's or Tony Khan or Scott D'Amore's head saying "He is the loser who left New Japan." I think the idea people are thinking about there is that it would be the type of move New Japan would make if they knew that he was going to WWE already, and not that he’s still weighing his options, since AEW has a working relationship with them right now and he’d be able to do big shows for them still, like Omega does. Reading the tea leaves type of thing. Like if you remember last year with the whole Cody-Wrestlemania thing, as the event was approaching (like 1-3 weeks out, IIRC) we started hearing rumors that maybe he wasn’t actually a lock to go to WWE at all. So that was being kept very close to the vest, as all indications are that he was locked in since the beginning of the build despite those reports.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 21, 2023 14:30:48 GMT -5
I personally doubt they knew that when they made the story. We've also never really had a situation since Inoki's days where major talent left New Japan and had options between two established major companies. Even when Cody, the Bucks, and Omega left, AEW was just an unproven idea.
I just think the storyline reason he left New Japan is completely irrelevant to where he signs, even if he does ultimately end up in WWE, except he's definitely not coming back to New Japan. Hell, you can have him coming back to NJPW on the technicality that he's an Impact or AEW guy to get one over on his former employer.
For what it's worth, I think it's extremely unlikely he goes to Impact. Only mentioning it because White himself included them along with WWE and AEW in his "open for business" comments after leaving New Japan. Probably as a professional courtesy since he worked a bunch of matches for them.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Feb 21, 2023 15:25:45 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 21, 2023 15:29:24 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through Yea that’s cap. Let’s not act like AJ was not literally a champion over 50% of his run in WWE up until last year
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Feb 21, 2023 15:33:28 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through Yea that’s cap. Let’s not act like AJ was not literally a champion over 50% of his run in WWE up until last year Hell AJ is a Grand Slam champion in WWE dude acting like that's nothing special
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 21, 2023 15:36:44 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through Wow, he's going to hold the world title multiple times, main event Wrestlemania, have great feuds with major names like Cena/Roman and just generally be a loved and respected guy by everyone he works with? Are you working for WWE and trying to sell this to him because good job if so.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 21, 2023 15:47:35 GMT -5
AJ also came in as a longtime veteran of ROH, NJPW, and especially TNA. He was 38 when he made his debut.
Jay would be coming in the prime of his career. The AJ route is a solid one, but I think Jay's ceiling is even higher.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 21, 2023 15:47:37 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through Wow, he's going to hold the world title multiple times, main event Wrestlemania, have great feuds with major names like Cena/Roman and just generally be a loved and respected guy by everyone he works with? Are you working for WWE and trying to sell this to him because good job if so. If anything, the exact opposite happened. He got bodied by Roman and then got mega pushed lol
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Post by Schizo on Feb 21, 2023 16:07:19 GMT -5
Jay would just be slotted into AJ's role. He'd be like AJ. An initial push and then just another body for Roman to eventually run through Oof! The level of cynicism here is unbelievable.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 21, 2023 16:17:50 GMT -5
AJ also came in as a longtime veteran of ROH, NJPW, and especially TNA. He was 38 when he made his debut. Jay would be coming in the prime of his career. The AJ route is a solid one, but I think Jay's ceiling is even higher. I'm not sure his ceiling is higher than AJ's. A year long world title reign, being the face of Smackdown for a few years, a Wrestlemania main event and big matches with basically every top star. It's hard to top that. The only level higher than that is like Roman/face of the company level and I don't ever picture Jay in that role. He's more of a HHH than a Rock.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Feb 21, 2023 17:17:12 GMT -5
I think if you offered anybody AJ’s WWE career, they would be thrilled.
Consistently over, almost always in a good spot and a multiple-time champion.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 21, 2023 17:30:28 GMT -5
I think if you offered anybody AJ’s WWE career, they would be thrilled. Consistently over, almost always in a good spot and a multiple-time champion. Merchandised out the ass as well. “He’ll be treated like AJ” is NOT the way to go if you’re trying to say he’ll have a bad time. Lol. They’ve treated Styles like a legend. He’s got a hall of fame career just counting his WWE run
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Post by XIII on Feb 21, 2023 17:56:16 GMT -5
How they’ve treated AJ is amazing. I was very skeptical that they would push him the way that they have when he debuted just based off of the WWE history of antagonistic booking. Yet they’ve treated him like a legit legend and absolutely on the same level as their own homegrown legends. There have been times when he he would slide down the card a bit but he was always still treated as a big deal and would move right back up. Anyone would want the AJ push.
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Post by ghost on Feb 21, 2023 18:07:42 GMT -5
The fact that AJ Styles worked out so well in WWE (and with Vince 100% in charge!) makes me think Jay will be just fine if he went there.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 21, 2023 18:23:25 GMT -5
Yea that’s cap. Let’s not act like AJ was not literally a champion over 50% of his run in WWE up until last year Hell AJ is a Grand Slam champion in WWE dude acting like that's nothing special In all honesty? Eehhhhhh…it kinda isn’t. Not saying AJ’s been used badly, but WWE title runs don’t usually mean that much. Might change with the current creative regime in charge, but WWE’s had too much of a history of putting a belt on a guy because “well, the hell else we gonna do?”
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 21, 2023 18:46:09 GMT -5
Hell AJ is a Grand Slam champion in WWE dude acting like that's nothing special In all honesty? Eehhhhhh…it kinda isn’t. Not saying AJ’s been used badly, but WWE title runs don’t usually mean that much. Might change with the current creative regime in charge, but WWE’s had too much of a history of putting a belt on a guy because “well, the hell else we gonna do?” Grand slam champion includes a world title. Everyone that’s achieved it is pretty much a lock hall of famer and extremely well pushed. Angle, Edge, Eddie, Show, Miz, Bryan, Jericho, Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, Orton, Hardy, Kofi, Mysterio.
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