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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 10, 2023 22:00:29 GMT -5
That was... Well, that was a match alright. A match where it doesn't seem like anyone got seriously injured so that's nice.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 10, 2023 22:05:58 GMT -5
They humiliated Shotzi by having Charlotte pause finishing the match to point at Rhea, then having Shotzi tap out anyway.
So doing the math here:
Shotzi has won like three matches on TV since last July, and one of those was in NXT.
Tegan has won one match since she returned.
Emma hasn’t won any since she returned.
Lacey won a jobber match, and has disappeared off TV again.
Xia Li has disappeared as well.
And Liv has won like one match on TV all year.
Etc.
This division DESPERATELY needs a refresh post Mania because it is ridiculous how little star power it feels like that have. And it’s mostly down to bad booking.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Mar 10, 2023 22:06:26 GMT -5
We have nothing matches all the time idk why this one is getting extra shit
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 10, 2023 22:10:03 GMT -5
We have nothing matches all the time idk why this one is getting extra shit I was less concerned about how irrelevant and heatless it was, though it was those things, and more how damn sloppy it was. They were blowing nearly every move.
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Post by Totorob101 on Mar 10, 2023 22:14:42 GMT -5
The women's division may as well be just Charlotte Ronda and one of two others for them to feed on as it's clear that no other female actually matters on SD at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 22:15:14 GMT -5
We have nothing matches all the time idk why this one is getting extra shit I was less concerned about how irrelevant and heatless it was, though it was those things, and more how damn sloppy it was. They were blowing nearly every move. It was a very...lets just get through this match especially for Charlotte and subsequently the match does nothing to help build Shotzi.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 22:19:16 GMT -5
The women's division may as well be just Charlotte Ronda and one of two others for them to feed on as it's clear that no other female actually matters on SD at all. They can just freely steal my line of thinking...put Charlotte , Bianca , Becky and Ronda all on one brand to fight amongst themselves and every other woman on the other brand.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 10, 2023 22:42:59 GMT -5
It was at least interesting as a contrast to Rhea/Liv last week. Liv of course lost, but Rhea still made her look good by bumping all over the place for her moves.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 11, 2023 0:26:41 GMT -5
We have nothing matches all the time idk why this one is getting extra shit I thought Shotzi had more of a rough night than usual. Some of her strikes missed by a mile .
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Post by XIII on Mar 11, 2023 0:30:32 GMT -5
Just a bad match. No other way to slice it really.
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Post by Facetious on Mar 11, 2023 0:31:43 GMT -5
I haven't watched the match.
That being said, I love Shotzi but wrestling isn't her strong suit lol
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 11, 2023 0:42:21 GMT -5
I haven't watched the match. That being said, I love Shotzi but wrestling isn't her strong suit lol Yeah, I love Shotzi and she's got great charisma and an awesome schtick, but... She's not very good in the ring. And not in the "She's not as good as she's pushed to be" way that Flair is, I mean actual ability or lack thereof that says "This is why she's not pushed further than she is". Even when they've tried to use her for her strengths, the big stunt bumps and whatnot in Money In The Bank and such, she's floundered in the bits inbetween.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 11, 2023 1:51:46 GMT -5
I haven't watched the match. That being said, I love Shotzi but wrestling isn't her strong suit lol Yeah, I love Shotzi and she's got great charisma and an awesome schtick, but... She's not very good in the ring. And not in the "She's not as good as she's pushed to be" way that Flair is, I mean actual ability or lack thereof that says "This is why she's not pushed further than she is". Even when they've tried to use her for her strengths, the big stunt bumps and whatnot in Money In The Bank and such, she's floundered in the bits inbetween. If Charlotte can't drag a good enough match out of you, you really are f***ed Her wrestling seems to have regressed even more so. She'd probably be a good enough manager to someone but yeah she really has nothing in ring going for her
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 11, 2023 1:56:38 GMT -5
It was a bad match
They were both just off, and this is a pattern with Charlotte. She either puts on a banger, or it's a huge struggle. You work with her, or you're about to have one of the worst matches of your life
That said Shotzi isn't innocent, she's had some very big time clunkers against Sasha, Ronda, and Charlotte, all in bigger positions. I think her style is more suited for car crash hardcore brawls, and having her try to work technical matches just spells disaster every time
There was a point in the match where Shotzi got spiked on a German and Charlotte hesitated on her kip up to make sure she didn't just destroy her. It just didn't work out, I'm glad neither of them are hurt from it.
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Post by Perd on Mar 11, 2023 2:46:21 GMT -5
Shot I won’t gain any traction until she changes her name to Opportunitzi.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Mar 11, 2023 10:03:59 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with being a tag team specialist, and that's what my girl is at this point in her career. I thought she and Hattie had a good thing going for a couple weeks.
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 11, 2023 10:16:49 GMT -5
I was relieved that Charlotte countered Shotzi's suicide dive with the way the match was going.
Saved her life.
Shotzi should just be in a tag team at this point, or do more brawls that would cover her limitations.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 11, 2023 19:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by Legion on Mar 11, 2023 19:22:28 GMT -5
Charlotte could likely have done more to hide how bad Shotzi is, but this is all on Shotzi.
She just isnt very good.
Great character, but in ring is not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 19:22:32 GMT -5
In order to get the best out of Shotzi you really have to work within her skillset.
Charlotte was clearly having none of it with how lazily she was moving especially that spear.
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