How AEW can develop talent better

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Inspired by the Mogul affiliates thread.

Since Trench and Parker Boudreaux are examples of maybe too much too fast, it does bring up how AEW can maybe prepare acts for the future. 

Should talent get their reps in untelevised matches that are still in front of a crowd?

Stint in RoH, since, realistically speaking it's headed toward being the B brand anyway?

The old school way of foreign excursions? 

A training center of their own?

[Facetious]

I think the method they have now works, its just some people take longer to develop. Hobbs was just okay when he signed and he got his reps with Starks on TV and on Dark and he's developed incredibly.

[kingoftheindies]

Honestly there's no right answer cause everybody will learn differently. I just think Parker wasn't ready to do the type of match expected with Dustin Rhodes and Keith Lee so you just take a step back. But for every Parker and Trench you have a ton of acts in AEW that while trained outside of AEW, AEW put the gimmick they're currently using together. Sometimes it's just reps, sometimes it's pairing them with a veteran (which AEW has done with almost every act that comes from the indies), sometimes they just need more training.

Parker and Trench may have seen their first chance not go well, but for them you have acts like Anna, Hook, Powerhouse, Jade, Wardlow, Jungle Boy, and the Acclaimed just to name a few that have shown they are tv ready.

[CeilingFan]

ROH needs to be the place to better develop talent better.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

They need to realize that making people from almost the ground up isn't really something AEW fans will have the patience for. The most successful they've managed has been Jade, whose push and work has been really contentious and who would definitely benefit from some travel and more effort to get her reps, but she's being framed as a special attraction in a way that I don't think she can really pull off or should be. Parker's issue is he's still so green that he's learning on the job in AEW, as opposed to being a diamond in the rough with some time elsewhere who's getting polished. The Acclaimed got brought up and they're a good example of the difference; both Caster and Bowens have years of work on the indies and they've definitely grown in the past couple years in AEW and nailing down their act, but the foundation and the travel they got played a big part in them finding the room to grow.

You just aren't going to have someone ready for TV in less than 20 matches. Looking for traveled, experienced wrestlers who can be improved on is a better move than looking for people who are too green to get extra work on AEW Dark.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

they dont have the benefit of PWG running as often as when NXT was killing it

[XIII]

Dark matches and working a deal where they loan project guys out to Impact would probably help.

Parker is fine as muscle for Swerve but if you put a guy that’s like a year into the business in there with Swerve, Dustin, and Keith Lee they’re not going to be able to keep up unless they’re a high level athlete already(Angle, Brock, etc.)

[Allie Kitsune]

As I said in the Mogul Affiliates thread :

And especially if you're training them and have them under contract, you have deals with other companies. Send them to Impact, send them to whatever's going to become of STRONG once they start doing whatever kind of shows they're going to be doing going forward. Send them to AAA. Work out a deal with MLW if Court will play ball. Get them experience that way.

[tuckerguy]

I think they're fine with what they're doing. Some people just don't learn as quick as others, but it is what it is.

[Bo Rida]

It's an interesting time, across many promotions there's multiple new wrestlers that offer something almost immediately, certainly within the first year or two of their career.
That's usually presence, enough grasp of the basics not to look lost or something that stands out which makes fans more accepting of their limitations.

It puts those that have potential but will take longer to reach that level in a tough position. Not sure what the answer is.

Later when they reach a point they're good enough for TV but have limited space to move up that's when excursions are needed (eg TayJay, Dante while his brother was injured). That's also when they've got something to offer other promotions too.

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Someone already said it that there is no right anwser because everyone learns differently.

Seeing as this spun out from something involving Swerve let me use him as the example here.

In LU swerve was in the deepest of waters and had to learn so much as he went in LU.

He had to learn how to work TV
He had to overcome language barriers as he never got to call his own matches untill he started feuding with Marty which was at the end game for season 2.
He had to learn to wrestle in a mask
He had to learn how to develop a character and tell not just in ring stories but outside of it as well

In all practicality Swerve should have never become the talent he is now , but he is a special case that he worked through all of it but the other important piece is of those around him that help him put it all together.

So I do not think it is strictly about sending them off to some other company but sittin the talents down and collaborating and see what clicks in their head can do alot to because and I have said this so much that if not for Marty the Moth then Swerve is not the talent he is now and that comes from Swerve himself who has given all the credit to Marty during their feud that helped him put it all together.

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Since a lot of the best workers in AEW came up through the indies, I wonder if TK couldn't replicate that experience by signing guys under development deals, and then sending them out to work in the independent scene at no cost to those promoters?

[Kalmia]

Just don't expect people to run before they can walk. Parker in the Trustbusters on Dark at this point in his career is fine. Tagging with Swerve in the main event of Rampage is too much. Let them develop at their own pace. AEW has enough wrestlers that there's no need to rush anyone.