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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 29, 2023 17:49:34 GMT -5
they haven't mentioned Bianca almost setting a record breaking reign either. Pretty sure they brought it up in her video package and did a longEST thing with it.
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Post by Chiral on Mar 29, 2023 17:52:06 GMT -5
It's settled: Double countout draw at WM BAY BEEEEEEEEE
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Post by J is Justice on Mar 29, 2023 18:51:13 GMT -5
I remember the Roman Vs. Drew poll for CATC was just as close... and then Roman won like always. So going by this scientific evidence this means Bianca's winning.
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Post by john84 on Mar 29, 2023 18:52:40 GMT -5
I remember the Roman Vs. Drew poll for CATC was just as close... and then Roman won like always. So going by this scientific evidence this means Bianca's winning. My prediction for if Asuka wins. Countout. If Bianca wins. Pinfall or DQ due to mist. Either way I have a feeling that Bianca is gonna retain.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Mar 29, 2023 19:00:51 GMT -5
It's settled: Double countout draw at WM BAY BEEEEEEEEE Wow, right down the middle it seems.
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Post by mistery on Mar 29, 2023 19:55:00 GMT -5
they haven't mentioned Bianca almost setting a record breaking reign either. Pretty sure they brought it up in her video package and did a longEST thing with it. They did not. I went back to watch it. They instead talked about how she's a hard worker and is always positive and one of their most improved stars. The EST stuff was just them talking about how she's made the gimmick work for this long, and actually believes in it.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 30, 2023 0:00:30 GMT -5
I remember the Roman Vs. Drew poll for CATC was just as close... and then Roman won like always. So going by this scientific evidence this means Bianca's winning. Yeah, I'm surprised the poll is this close because they haven't really done anything in-story to establish why Asuka is a big threat to Bianca.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 30, 2023 0:06:07 GMT -5
I remember the Roman Vs. Drew poll for CATC was just as close... and then Roman won like always. So going by this scientific evidence this means Bianca's winning. Yeah, I'm surprised the poll is this close because they haven't really done anything in-story to establish why Asuka is a big threat to Bianca. What should they have been doing? Should Belair be cowering in the corner or some shit at the mere presence of Asuka with what amounts to just more face paint? Just because that would be cathartic for some of you (because burials are suddenly OK if they happen to acts I don’t like, f*** the people that DO like them) wouldn’t make it good.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 30, 2023 0:11:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm surprised the poll is this close because they haven't really done anything in-story to establish why Asuka is a big threat to Bianca. What should they have been doing? Should Belair be cowering in the corner or some shit at the mere presence of Asuka with what amounts to just more face paint? Just because that would be cathartic for some of you (because burials are suddenly OK if they happen to acts I don’t like, f*** the people that DO like them) wouldn’t make it good.
I'm not saying Bianca should be buried in this build, just that there hasn't been anything to show why Asuka's an actual threat to the strongest booked person in the company and the one who's being presented on par with Cena on the Mania poster. It's not like Asuka beat her recent opponents any easier than Bianca did, you know? Also, it's a performance thing rather than a storyline thing, but even when Asuka ambushed her after the 'can they co-exist?' tag, Bianca had her arms up so early that Asuka's kick didn't look as effective as it could have.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 30, 2023 0:19:07 GMT -5
What should they have been doing? Should Belair be cowering in the corner or some shit at the mere presence of Asuka with what amounts to just more face paint? Just because that would be cathartic for some of you (because burials are suddenly OK if they happen to acts I don’t like, f*** the people that DO like them) wouldn’t make it good. I'm not saying Bianca should be buried in this build, just that there hasn't been anything to show why Asuka's an actual threat to the strongest booked person in the company and the one who's being presented on par with Cena on the Mania poster. It's not like Asuka beat her recent opponents any easier than Bianca did, you know? Also, it's a performance thing rather than a storyline thing, but even when Asuka ambushed her after the 'can they co-exist?' tag, Bianca had her arms up so early that Asuka's kick didn't look as effective as it could have.
OK, they might not have gone out of their way to show that Asuka is this unstoppable threat to Belair, but they haven't done anything to her to show that she definitely isn't. Most of this is just "Belair is booked too strong for my liking and for what I believe her talent level is".
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 30, 2023 0:26:40 GMT -5
I'm not saying Bianca should be buried in this build, just that there hasn't been anything to show why Asuka's an actual threat to the strongest booked person in the company and the one who's being presented on par with Cena on the Mania poster. It's not like Asuka beat her recent opponents any easier than Bianca did, you know? Also, it's a performance thing rather than a storyline thing, but even when Asuka ambushed her after the 'can they co-exist?' tag, Bianca had her arms up so early that Asuka's kick didn't look as effective as it could have.
OK, they might not have gone out of their way to show that Asuka is this unstoppable threat to Belair, but they haven't done anything to her to show that she definitely isn't. Most of this is just "Belair is booked too strong for my liking and for what I believe her talent level is".
Fair, I'd say the closest was probably Bianca using Iyo to lay out the entire EC field on the go-home to that show, but that's a few weeks back now and easily forgotten. The thing is, the super-strong booking is long established now. That in turn means that WWE has to be more careful for when Bianca does have that loss*, it should feel big rather than just happening for the sake of it. And with the minimal build the match has gotten, it doesn't really have that possible title-change feel, at least to me.
* She did take two pins last year but both were very protected. (Clash's 6-woman tag had cheating plus three consecutive finishers, the Raw one against Bayley had a Nikki run-in after Bianca had already gotten a long visual pin.)
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Post by mistery on Mar 30, 2023 8:52:04 GMT -5
OK, they might not have gone out of their way to show that Asuka is this unstoppable threat to Belair, but they haven't done anything to her to show that she definitely isn't. Most of this is just "Belair is booked too strong for my liking and for what I believe her talent level is".
Fair, I'd say the closest was probably Bianca using Iyo to lay out the entire EC field on the go-home to that show, but that's a few weeks back now and easily forgotten. The thing is, the super-strong booking is long established now. That in turn means that WWE has to be more careful for when Bianca does have that loss*, it should feel big rather than just happening for the sake of it. And with the minimal build the match has gotten, it doesn't really have that possible title-change feel, at least to me.
* She did take two pins last year but both were very protected. (Clash's 6-woman tag had cheating plus three consecutive finishers, the Raw one against Bayley had a Nikki run-in after Bianca had already gotten a long visual pin.)
I mean Asuka is supposed to be a heel now I think? So her misting Bianca and getting the win that way would be protected. Also a problem with Bianca is that she just can't act worth a damn. She has like zero actual intensity in her promos, and her facial reactions aren't great either. It doesn't help that she literally sells no one as a threat either. Hell even when Becky beat her for the title in 21 seconds, the very next Smackdown she was out there smiling and acting like it was a minor setback at best. WWE can't really build up someone to look like a threat to Bianca with how awful she actually is at making others look like threats or selling them as threats. With that being said, I am split on if she drops the title or not. It would definitely freshen the top of the division if she does lose. But I feel like what is gonna happen is either Bianca powers through the mist (which would be incredibly dumb and also bury Asuka and indirectly bury Muta's legacy, but something WWE would do), or she reverses Asuka's finisher into the KOD or something (especially since the way Asuka applies it now means all Bianca has to do is stand up to hit it). And if Bianca makes it past Mania, she probably isn't dropping the title until Summerslam at the earliest which is another five months of her running over the division. Which would be incredibly bad.
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Post by msc on Mar 30, 2023 10:57:28 GMT -5
Is she meant to be a heel? I thought she was a take no shit who you are type that the crowd loved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 11:11:17 GMT -5
Asuka is a tweener still leaning babyface.
I can see them leaning her more heel if she wins though.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 2, 2023 20:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 2, 2023 20:41:18 GMT -5
Nope, all roads lead to Bianca doing the same old shit.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 2, 2023 20:42:36 GMT -5
I'm so beyond done with Bianca Cena.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 2, 2023 20:54:24 GMT -5
The fact that WWE thought it was a good idea to let Asuka go 0-5 at Mania is bizarre?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2023 20:58:21 GMT -5
At least Charlotte lost, that's where I'm gonna leave it
Bianca's way too overpushed though, it's a detriment to her and has really made me loathe whatever she's doing next. As for Asuka? More of the same shitty WWE booking with her, can't build up her new threatening aura right just for her to lose when it matters anyway. If she ever leaves to go elsewhere, it'll be awesome to watch.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Apr 2, 2023 21:01:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately, no.
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