cj3
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by cj3 on Apr 1, 2023 2:57:47 GMT -5
I want to rewatch one, maybe both tonight
Obviously both had amazingly bad booking decisions...but are either one considered enjoyable before the shit hits the fan?
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 1, 2023 3:07:01 GMT -5
2014 is a perfectly fine Rumble. People were just pissed Bryan wasn't in it even though he wasn't announced and was in an undercard match. Other then that there really isn't anything wrong with it other then Punk being a pretty lame iron man in his last match as he mainly just laid around and did nothing, sans a few eliminations early on, for an hour. Although in his defense apparently he suffered a concussion.
2015 on the other hand is complete utter trash. To this day I think it was some kind of sick joke as I don't think anyone could be so incompetent when putting a match together.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 1, 2023 3:24:54 GMT -5
2014's decent besides falling apart at the end. 2015 just sucks ass.
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Post by Andew9001 on Apr 1, 2023 3:25:08 GMT -5
If you watch it on mute 2014 is a great rumble. 2015 is pretty bad and poorly paced.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 1, 2023 3:32:28 GMT -5
2015 is fascinating in how bizarrely its booked. It's ostensibly set up to make Roman more over, but then rather than at least making him look like a hero overcoming the threat of Big Show/Kane, they just start randomly fighting and he tips them out from behind like a heel.
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4real
Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Apr 1, 2023 3:34:11 GMT -5
2014 was very good I thought until the realisation sets in and Bryan isn’t coming out. Then it’s just a case of wanting the match to end ASAP.
I don’t think 2015 has any redeeming qualities other than maybe Bray & Rusev’s performances. And both were made to look stupid at the end anyway. Maybe the worst Rumble ever (It’s that or 2022 for me).
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 1, 2023 3:49:30 GMT -5
2015 is fascinating in how bizarrely its booked. It's ostensibly set up to make Roman more over, but then rather than at least making him look like a hero overcoming the threat of Big Show/Kane, they just start randomly fighting and he tips them out from behind like a heel. Then he picked the bones of a half dead Rusev for no apparent reason.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 1, 2023 3:50:38 GMT -5
2015 is fascinating in how bizarrely its booked. It's ostensibly set up to make Roman more over, but then rather than at least making him look like a hero overcoming the threat of Big Show/Kane, they just start randomly fighting and he tips them out from behind like a heel. I never understood why they booked Big Show/Kane so strong in that Rumble. I know they were part of the Authority but there had to be a better option. It would be like if in the 1999 Royal Rumble if they had King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd (if he was still alive) slowly dumping all of DX out of the ring and beating the crap out of Austin who would only end up eliminating them because they couldn't get along and started fighting each other. Looking back it's too bad they didn't protect Harper and Rowan more and book them stronger as they would've been real useful for spots like that as the two giant heels for the big babyface to overcome. Instead of having to feel the need to back to ancient Kane and Big Show yet again despite both being around for twenty years because they would never book any of their next crop of giants with any credibility.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 1, 2023 4:05:57 GMT -5
2014's biggest sin is external to the match itself. I do think Bryan not being in there was an unforgivably bad decision and I think they were right to shit on it because it was on its face so insane that instead of doing the logical story beat, Bryan just lost to Wyatt and was going to fart around in the undercard with Sheamus at Mania. Batista coming back for the Full Timer Special was just clearly not going to pay off. But in isolation or as like a view back, it would be a fine enough thing if you could somehow pretend that the matrch isn't getting totally torn to pieces. The construction isn't a problem until the words "and then Rey Mysterio comes out".
2015's was top to bottom an absolute shitshow that stands as a great example of a WWE that had completely lost any semblance of touch by that point. Putting aside the contentious nature of Roman's push, it's just actually a really dogshit construction of a Rumble to make everyone except the winner look like shit. Every face was dumped out like trash bags by two monster heels who didn't even get overcome in the end. Nothing made anyone look good and the story being told was something it should have been obvious was the wrong way to go about any of it, but the singular trick they knew in that era was "make Roman look strong and build him up because strong will get over no matter what, except he won't ever be able to beat Brock, that's too strong, make it take literal years for him to beat Brock".
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msc
Dennis Stamp
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Post by msc on Apr 1, 2023 4:08:40 GMT -5
2015 is fascinating in how bizarrely its booked. It's ostensibly set up to make Roman more over, but then rather than at least making him look like a hero overcoming the threat of Big Show/Kane, they just start randomly fighting and he tips them out from behind like a heel. I never understood why they booked Big Show/Kane so strong in that Rumble. I know they were part of the Authority but there had to be a better option. It would be like if in the 1999 Royal Rumble if they had King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd (if he was still alive) slowly dumping all of DX out of the ring and beating the crap out of Austin who would only end up eliminating them because they couldn't get along and started fighting each other. Looking back it's too bad they didn't protect Harper and Rowan more and book them stronger as they would've been real useful for spots like that as the two giant heels for the big babyface to overcome. Instead of having to feel the need to back to ancient Kane and Big Show yet again despite both being around for twenty years because they would never book any of their next crop of giants with any credibility. I've always thought the 2016 rumble was an attempt at a mea culpa. Big show and Kane team up again only for Braun to come out and murder the both of them. Also it's structured so that whenever a huge crowd favourite loses the match instantly introduces another crowd favourite so they don't lose interest. The 2015 rumble was a complete mess. A troll job.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Apr 1, 2023 4:08:46 GMT -5
2015 was enjoyable until Daniel Bryan was eliminated, then it all went to shit.
The Local Men eliminating the likes of Ambrose, Bray and Ziggler with ease was one of the worst moments in wrestling history.
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Dub H
Crow T. Robot
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Post by Dub H on Apr 1, 2023 5:41:56 GMT -5
2015 was made to completely tell the fans " you are worth shit to us, go f*** yourself"
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Post by bluebeach25 on Apr 1, 2023 5:58:41 GMT -5
2014 might have been not that terrible as said but it still wasn't really good either.
2015 was a total shitmatch from start to end. Dudley Boys were the only little highlight.
But honestly i thought the Fans totally hijacked it too. They didn't gave anyone not named Daniel Bryan a chance.
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Nosnorb
El Dandy
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 1, 2023 19:26:54 GMT -5
2014 is a perfectly fine Rumble. People were just pissed Bryan wasn't in it even though he wasn't announced and was in an undercard match. Other then that there really isn't anything wrong with it other then Punk being a pretty lame iron man in his last match as he mainly just laid around and did nothing, sans a few eliminations early on, for an hour. Although in his defense apparently he suffered a concussion. Punk got concussed early in the match in a spot with Kofi Kingston, and he also had a MRSA infection and was so battered he could only do two moves. It was a wretched end to his WWE career and what most of us thought was the end to his wrestling career.
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Toates Madhackrviper
King Koopa
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Apr 1, 2023 20:46:30 GMT -5
2015 is one of the worst things I've ever seen in wrestling. Just awful.
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Post by Goldash #BLM on Apr 1, 2023 21:26:31 GMT -5
2014-16 were all a mess of a blur for me and I didn't like any of them. I don't know if I remember any of them apart from the finishes, but those days were truly the doldrums
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Post by Starshine on Apr 1, 2023 21:29:56 GMT -5
I think the 2015 Rumble, without hyperbole, is the worst big match WWE has ever produced. Out of the 30 people involved, none came out of it looking good.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Apr 1, 2023 22:16:39 GMT -5
2014 is fine and watchable.
2015 is terrible
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Chiral
Salacious Crumb
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Post by Chiral on Apr 1, 2023 23:05:05 GMT -5
Rumble 14 I remember being pretty good on rewatch, but Rumble 15 is an atrocity of pro wrestling.
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XIII
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by XIII on Apr 2, 2023 0:28:19 GMT -5
2015 is peak Vince “you’ll take your medicine and like it” booking. That shit should be against the Geneva conventions.
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