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Post by jm on Feb 5, 2024 12:13:01 GMT -5
Cody/Seth is a "rivalry" in the same way that Yankees/Red Sox was a "rivalry" before 2004. |
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Post by Soultastic on Feb 5, 2024 12:13:28 GMT -5
I really do believe Cody should go after Gunther. The Seth story is played out and has no good outcome. It elevates the Intercontinental Title a ton. Cody can accomplish something pretty damn significant that adds to his legacy while not detracting from his end goal. It gives Gunther a gigantic match. And Cody/Gunther have history from their Rumble matches that hasn't yet been resolved with a real match yet. I'd agree but Cody would HAVE to win. Using a world title shot for a midcard title is already a tough sell, but having him lose would immediately turn this into the Theory cash in. And the thing is, while I think Gunther should lose the title at Mania, it should be to someone who can truly benefit from it. I don't see how this helps Cody. Not to mention, poor Seth who has already been shat on by this whole story would look even worse. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 12:15:29 GMT -5
Also his amazing ability to insert his foot into his own mouth and then keep going until it hits his stomach, sure struck again. I'm not going to defend Triple H as a person right now because who knows where the f*** that's going to go, but I do think there's an argument to be made that Cody is legit more popular this year at this time than he was last year at this time. With the benefit of hindsight, yes, in this moment, they should have pulled the trigger last year. I'm not sure we could have predicted at this time last year that this is exactly where we'd be this year. I think the issue was more or less that even if Cody is more popular, last year was the moment to make the change. I think no matter what Cody does he will remain insanely over, but I think the moment was lost. |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Feb 5, 2024 12:18:47 GMT -5
And now ESPN has their eye on this whole mess.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 5, 2024 12:22:06 GMT -5
Pat McAfee's show opened with discussion of this mess.
Keep in mind that McAfee is now the new color guy for Raw.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 5, 2024 12:23:47 GMT -5
I'm glad ESPN is finally getting to the big WWE controversy that emerged in the past week.
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Post by Tenshigure on Feb 5, 2024 12:32:54 GMT -5
If Cody faces Seth is there even a good outcome? If Seth wins ,Cody chokes yet again. If Cody wins ,Seth AGAIN loses to Cody and Cody's title win feels empty as it's not the title he wants Priest is going to cash-in, turn it into a triple threat and pin Seth. Then, the story is going to be Seth chasing down the Judgment Day for the spring/summer.
You know they'd be milking the hell out of the fact the perpetrator of the "Heist of the Century" had just lost his title in the same fashion if that were the case. Clock's ticking on Priest's MitB case as it is, not much time left til it expires, so they'd better do something fast...
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 12:34:32 GMT -5
If the moment wasn't lost last year it's sure as shit gonna be gone this year if they go through with this nonsense
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Post by Fade on Feb 5, 2024 12:35:23 GMT -5
Soooo the Royal Rumble was entirely pointless. f*** off. Because they wouldn’t want to “ruin the surprise/debut of Rock competing again” at the Royal Rumble. It’d have to be “saved” for ‘Msnia. That’s not even including the consideration the roided out Komodo dragon could end up injuring himself. So rock, ari Emmanuel, and nick khan made a deal and it sounds like they didn’t tell anyone including HHH. If that's true I legit have no idea how Cody Rhodes can be such a pro about this... the dude is a bigger man than most to still be doing his job like he is, it's simply insane the amount of shit they have forced him to endure since he signed there after doing nothing but what is supposed to be the right thing. Borderline sadistic tbh. Story of Cody’s life. WWE misused him before. AEW fans turned on him. He goes back and absolutely kills it despite all said “ shit-thrown-at-him”; Think it’s part of his appeal. If anything, it’s inspiring and a hell of a lesson: Just keep trucking/stepping. Think that’s exactly what Dustin tweeted actually haha If that's true I legit have no idea how Cody Rhodes can be such a pro about this... the dude is a bigger man than most to still be doing his job like he is, it's simply insane the amount of shit they have forced him to endure since he signed there after doing nothing but what is supposed to be the right thing. Borderline sadistic tbh. As angry as people are right now, and I'm sure Cody is heartbroken too, the reality is that he's still getting a stupid fat paycheck after this is all over. I'm sure there will come a day when we hear his true thoughts, but unless he somehow hasn't signed a contract extension in the last month or two, we're not going to hear about it for awhile. Yeah and he’s a father/husband. Puts things into perspective. I’m sure he’s miffed inside, but, he’s going to do the right thing. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 5, 2024 12:38:13 GMT -5
I really do believe Cody should go after Gunther. The Seth story is played out and has no good outcome. It elevates the Intercontinental Title a ton. Cody can accomplish something pretty damn significant that adds to his legacy while not detracting from his end goal. It gives Gunther a gigantic match. And Cody/Gunther have history from their Rumble matches that hasn't yet been resolved with a real match yet. What do you do about the Rumble win, though? Say he’s made a deal to use it at MITB or Summerslam instead? |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 5, 2024 12:40:49 GMT -5
I doubt they will, but it does feel like they do need to commit to the idea of Cody beating Roman at SummerSlam at the absolute latest. Even that really feels like completely blowing what should be the big moment, but this title reign just absolutely cannot drag on for another whole f***ing year.
Though given how he's acted about the whole thing so far I'm guessing it's significantly more likely Rock wins then forfeits the belt.
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Post by hitman777 on Feb 5, 2024 12:42:55 GMT -5
Cody not being in the main event and not being able to finish the story sucks from a character point of view, but as a businessman, he's also getting the biggest one match pay day of his career stolen away from him by someone who should know bloody better.
Just awful all round.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 5, 2024 12:44:55 GMT -5
I doubt they will, but it does feel like they do need to commit to the idea of Cody beating Roman at SummerSlam at the absolute latest. Even that really feels like completely blowing what should be the big moment, but this title reign just absolutely cannot drag on for another whole f***ing year. Though given how he's acted about the whole thing so far I'm guessing it's significantly more likely Rock wins then forfeits the belt. Yeah stretching it to another Mania feels like it would be impossible while still maintaining Cody’s momentum (though who knows how far this Daniel Bryan-like support of Cody will carry him). The Rumble win is really the big fumble here unless they really were planning on a triple threat with Rock and Roman (as Meltzer seemed to imply). If Cody hadn’t won the Rumble I think you could have had him doing his own thing for several months longer with no real repercussions to his character arc. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 5, 2024 12:46:32 GMT -5
I doubt they will, but it does feel like they do need to commit to the idea of Cody beating Roman at SummerSlam at the absolute latest. Even that really feels like completely blowing what should be the big moment, but this title reign just absolutely cannot drag on for another whole f***ing year. Though given how he's acted about the whole thing so far I'm guessing it's significantly more likely Rock wins then forfeits the belt. Yeah stretching it to another Mania feels like it would be impossible while still maintaining Cody’s momentum (though who knows how far this Daniel Bryan-like support of Cody will carry him). The Rumble win is really the big fumble here unless they really were planning on a triple threat with Rock and Roman (as Meltzer seemed to imply). If Cody hadn’t won the Rumble I think you could have had him doing his own thing for several months longer with no real repercussions to his character arc. If they really wanted to do this shit, what they should have done is had Cody get cost the Rumble by the Bloodline in the middle of the match while Rock wins the Rumble. Cody fights Solo at Mania or something, then the arc becomes, "I need to win Money in the Bank to corner Roman at SummerSlam because I'm never going to get the chance otherwise." |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 5, 2024 12:48:17 GMT -5
I really do believe Cody should go after Gunther. The Seth story is played out and has no good outcome. It elevates the Intercontinental Title a ton. Cody can accomplish something pretty damn significant that adds to his legacy while not detracting from his end goal. It gives Gunther a gigantic match. And Cody/Gunther have history from their Rumble matches that hasn't yet been resolved with a real match yet. What do you do about the Rumble win, though? Say he’s made a deal to use it at MITB or Summerslam instead? I mean it's their own universe, you can make up whatever precedent you want. It's supposed to be for a world title match at WrestleMania but Cena used it at No Way Out so they can bend it as needed. I'm sure they can write something to figure it all out. |
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Post by Fade on Feb 5, 2024 12:54:06 GMT -5
I doubt they will, but it does feel like they do need to commit to the idea of Cody beating Roman at SummerSlam at the absolute latest. Even that really feels like completely blowing what should be the big moment, but this title reign just absolutely cannot drag on for another whole f***ing year. Though given how he's acted about the whole thing so far I'm guessing it's significantly more likely Rock wins then forfeits the belt. Yeah stretching it to another Mania feels like it would be impossible while still maintaining Cody’s momentum (though who knows how far this Daniel Bryan-like support of Cody will carry him). The Rumble win is really the big fumble here unless they really were planning on a triple threat with Rock and Roman (as Meltzer seemed to imply). If Cody hadn’t won the Rumble I think you could have had him doing his own thing for several months longer with no real repercussions to his character arc. I’m amazed they didn’t have Punk win it. I think the noted rationale is the correct one. They were in a pickle knowing rock was main eventing regardless and gave it to Cody with the whole..”it’ll build sympathy” thing. All of this so demoralizing. Also $30 million??? bruh |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 5, 2024 12:54:08 GMT -5
f*** it, people need to start hijacking the show with disruptive chants during all Rocky segments. Make him miserable. Scream at him until he knows how unwelcome he is at Mania 40's main event.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 5, 2024 12:58:00 GMT -5
Yeah stretching it to another Mania feels like it would be impossible while still maintaining Cody’s momentum (though who knows how far this Daniel Bryan-like support of Cody will carry him). The Rumble win is really the big fumble here unless they really were planning on a triple threat with Rock and Roman (as Meltzer seemed to imply). If Cody hadn’t won the Rumble I think you could have had him doing his own thing for several months longer with no real repercussions to his character arc. I’m amazed they didn’t have Punk win it. I think the noted rationale is the correct one. They were in a pickle knowing rock was main eventing regardless and gave it to Cody with the whole..”it’ll build sympathy” thing. All of this so demoralizing. Also $30 million??? bruh I think $30 million is the number based on the stock options given to Rock to be on the TKO board, which I guess also includes him appearing and wrestling. |
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on Feb 5, 2024 12:58:58 GMT -5
f*** it, people need to start hijacking the show with disruptive chants during all Rocky segments. Make him miserable. Scream at him until he knows how unwelcome he is at Mania 40's main event. Lets get some Madcap Moss chants going |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 5, 2024 13:01:58 GMT -5
If it's true that Cody vs. Seth was always going to be the true outcome and Punk/Seth was off the books then that means Punk's out a marquee world title match at Wrestlemania 11 years later in the exact same way from the exact same guy. And that's kind of funny.
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