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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2023 0:00:05 GMT -5
It was WrestleMania, your biggest show of the year and the storyline you've been building to and you pull that kind of spite ending? It's like Stallone having Rocky lose in the first minute in the fight against Apollo and justify it by saying he'll beat Spider Rico during the credits. Uh Rocky didn't win the first fight We found CM Punk's FAN Burner
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 3, 2023 0:00:13 GMT -5
Don’t start that garbage please Doesn't feel so good, does it? Completely unnecessary.
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Post by Error on Apr 3, 2023 0:01:42 GMT -5
They did a finish Dusty would be proud of in match where it was about who he loved more and the answer was the booker. Cody will get his because of the finish of the match calls for it, probably leading to the belts being spilt, the only question is who will be left in the back? And the question really is why should we care or trust that to happen? Like the big issue here is it's diminishing returns. Tonight was the night, they can try and say whatever they want, they blew it lol I'm not denying what you say, hell I don't think it leads to Roman losing at all. Shit should have been over many times to many people. It didn't start with H, I don't think it would end with him unless it was to someone he wanted (don't think he's ever been big on Cody and Roman had anyways been his guy). The Bloodline stuff has been the only thing on WWE I've kept up with over the last two years or so. WWE has been garbage for awhile but people keep living on hope. For everything they piss and moan about the indies, Japan, and AEW doing, no stories, spot fest matches, over reliance on legacy gimmicks, and what not, that's WWE. They did a finish Dusty would be proud of in match where it was about who he loved more and the answer was the booker. Cody will get his because of the finish of the match calls for it, probably leading to the belts being spilt, the only question is who will be left in the back? The finish of every Roman match calls for it and it never amounts to anything. Cody will probably drop the loss back to Solo then set about putting over Theory or some shit. Probably. They're high on both those guys as the future. I just think Cody will end up with a title because of this without Roman losing because they need to split them and want to by most accounts. This just gives them the best excuse to do it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2023 0:01:43 GMT -5
That's not HHH either given two of the three years Vince was in charge so... not the greatest flex on any account lol The original post was me saying Reigns is that good. Nothing to do with HHH That's my bad then, we're in the Triple H thread I thought most of the discussion was HHH Roman's character as a whole is compelling with a huge caveat/problem that it's like if Thanos won and there was never a sequel to Endgame, and tonight was a cherry on top of that example
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 3, 2023 0:01:51 GMT -5
Don’t start that garbage please Doesn't feel so good, does it? ??
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 3, 2023 0:02:16 GMT -5
I think tonight was the perfect dedication to Dusty, the red hot Babyface got screwed over by a tried and true finish that has been done 20 times so a story could continue to be told. If this is all truly in service to Cody winning, great. Based on how they’ve treated past opponents, I think people are rightfully concerned.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 3, 2023 0:02:16 GMT -5
Now, the Bloodline can break up, Cody can remain in the main event with Roman, Roman can lose and Jimmy/Jey/Solo are ready made heels to challenge Cody to attempt to usurp Roman and fail.
Bloodline just losing leaves Cody with no one at all to face. That could all have happened without a WM Bottle Job from Cody. Dude could still face Solo and the Usos. What you are saying makes bugger all sense.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 3, 2023 0:02:17 GMT -5
I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. I don't know either, but as I said a weekish or so ago in some thread on here, the Bloodline needs to tear itself apart. The Mega-Powers EXPLODED, they didn't limp away. With the right build, Jey can make a go of it, he won't have the organic push of Sami or the manufactured goodwill of Cody, but it can be done as to be a satisfying conclusion in the absence of the Rock, who is the natural end point. While I agree that the Bloodline needs to tear itself apart, the Mega-Powers exploded... but not at the expense of what was being billed as the ultimate finish to Roman's title reign. Savage didn't fully turn on Hogan until after the Rumble. There was tension before but it was the Mania season. That's where the issue is in my opinion with anything for Jey. Of course, my initial reaction is and continues to be that Cody's moment was derailed because the Rock has committed to the Roman match... which was ironically originally supposed to be in LA
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 3, 2023 0:02:18 GMT -5
Yep, I think so. Those moments wouldn’t be so big and the crowd wouldn’t care so much if he wasn’t. I agree. As much as I loathe the decision that was made tonight, Roman Reigns has been THE main eventer for two-plus years. That’s not for no reason. When “The” main eventer is the main villain that people want to see lose, that’s an issue.
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Post by krozor on Apr 3, 2023 0:02:55 GMT -5
Whatever lesser endgame they have in mind now, the finish itself is still so damning. The best he could come up with was "Solo interferes a few times, gets thrown out...then walks back out and interferes again anyway" as the finish to Wrestlemania?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 3, 2023 0:06:50 GMT -5
Now, the Bloodline can break up, Cody can remain in the main event with Roman, Roman can lose and Jimmy/Jey/Solo are ready made heels to challenge Cody to attempt to usurp Roman and fail.
Bloodline just losing leaves Cody with no one at all to face. That could all have happened without a WM Bottle Job from Cody. Dude could still face Solo and the Usos. What you are saying makes bugger all sense. The Usos didn't do their job. They lost. Solo did his job. Heyman did his. Roman did his. He won. It causes the necessary problems in the ranks to have the Usos turn on Roman and propel them to a couple main event runs. Cody just winning kills your top heel group dead, with no reason to see them break up.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 3, 2023 0:08:02 GMT -5
I agree. As much as I loathe the decision that was made tonight, Roman Reigns has been THE main eventer for two-plus years. That’s not for no reason. When “The” main eventer is the main villain that people want to see lose, that’s an issue. It’s also driving me crazy that this guy we call the GOAT has cheated to win for 3 years. He’s just a chickenshit heel that’s gaslit the fans.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 3, 2023 0:12:03 GMT -5
When “The” main eventer is the main villain that people want to see lose, that’s an issue. It’s also driving me crazy that this guy we call the GOAT has cheated to win for 3 years. He’s just a chickenshit heel that’s gaslit the fans. It is a weird disconnect in the story they’re telling vs what they’re showing. “Roman is so dominant. He’s the greatest. We all must acknowledge him.” We’re talking about the guy who needs 4 or 5 guys to help him win?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 3, 2023 0:12:25 GMT -5
I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. Sami, Cody and Drew are still big stars that wouldn’t really be any bigger if they’d won the title. Especially since Cody and Sami likely will be world champ within a year. If becoming world champion by ending a historic title reign in either your hometown or at the most watched Mania in history doesn't make you a bigger star...then what are we doing here folks? What will?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 0:18:06 GMT -5
That could all have happened without a WM Bottle Job from Cody. Dude could still face Solo and the Usos. What you are saying makes bugger all sense. The Usos didn't do their job. They lost. Solo did his job. Heyman did his. Roman did his. He won. It causes the necessary problems in the ranks to have the Usos turn on Roman and propel them to a couple main event runs. Cody just winning kills your top heel group dead, with no reason to see them break up. It does not kill them dead because Cody literally laid out in a promo how Roman's life post losing to him was suppose to go. Cody beats him at Mania Jey then leaves Jimmy leaves him Solo leaves him Heyman finally becomes an advocate again. That is 3 if not 4 depending on if you wanna count Heyman here individual post title reign stories clearly set for him , Cody winning the titles is not killing them what it was going to do was solidify Cody by capping off his story in the perfect moment at their biggest show of the year. Cody had already set the table for Solo to eventually turn on Roman and Sami had already set in motion Jey and Jimmy's turn. Roman retaining the title does nothing but completely whif on the perfect moment to end Romans reign but instead now drag it out to complete apathy while Cody is now looked at as a failure with everyone just no longer giving a f*** because if this was not the night to end it...we are all just like whatever it will end in 10yrs but who cares now.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Apr 3, 2023 0:19:20 GMT -5
God, was this forum always so filled with personal grudges and drama between users? This community has gotten better in some ways but the bickering and shit flinging has gotten way worse in my eyes. Stop throwing barbs at each other over professional f***ing wrestling.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2023 0:19:48 GMT -5
I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. Sami, Cody and Drew are still big stars that wouldn’t really be any bigger if they’d won the title. Especially since Cody and Sami likely will be world champ within a year. Ok you are officially just saying shit to try and justify this booking and this run because... WHAT? Drew winning in his home country would have made him a bigger star, Sami winning in Montreal would have made him a bigger star, Cody winning at Mania in front of everyone, his family, and Brodie would have absolutely made him a bigger star This is the Undisputed World Title, this is the longest reign WWE's had in decades. This by default, makes anyone an even bigger star, in those moments especially. It is absolutely insane to me that you'd even present this point and be serious about it... this shit matters, and given where Drew is, not having renewed his deal with WWE yet, it might matter for the talent in the end too that waiting and seeing doesn't always work out.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 3, 2023 0:21:47 GMT -5
That could all have happened without a WM Bottle Job from Cody. Dude could still face Solo and the Usos. What you are saying makes bugger all sense. The Usos didn't do their job. They lost. Solo did his job. Heyman did his. Roman did his. He won. It causes the necessary problems in the ranks to have the Usos turn on Roman and propel them to a couple main event runs. Cody just winning kills your top heel group dead, with no reason to see them break up. Cody winning would not have killed the group dead. You still would have had The Usos lose to Sami and Kev, still had Solo and Heyman there, and you could have tension build from there. You can still have Solo win a number one condenders match for either of the titles, win the MitB case and tease the break up there. There are a million ways to have the Usos and Solo turn on Roman.
Cody winning at 'mania doesn't undo the fact that Rikishi gave up on and abandoned Solo. It doesn't undo Roman gaslighting the f*** out of the Usos. All the seeds for the Bloodline imploding are still there.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 3, 2023 0:22:15 GMT -5
God, was this forum always so filled with personal grudges and drama between users? This community has gotten better in some ways but the bickering and shit flinging has gotten way worse in my eyes. Stop throwing barbs at each other over professional f***ing wrestling. You think it's bad here? I got f***ing dogpiled elsewhere because I was pissed over Bianca winning and Shane showing up and Roman winning, to the point where I got called a racist for it. This is NOTHING in comparison.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 3, 2023 0:22:41 GMT -5
I thought it was a gigantic waste that they didn't plan to strap the rocket to Sami at WM considering it is the hottest he'll ever be. Instead they went with Cody at maybe the hottest he'll ever be, and also torpedoed that. So that makes me feel a lot better. If I'm gonna get misery booked, then you all have to get it with me as well.
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