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Post by lucaslawless on May 8, 2023 6:50:03 GMT -5
Oh Im sure they will but the WWE should be able to do both. I guess they are this year with MITB and house shows/live events. I don't see why it would be terrible for fans though providing they use different venues each time to cater to all of the UK. I'd much rather attend a PPV with meaningful matches than I would a live event that is just a rehash and watered down version of RAW the week before with the B team on the card.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 8, 2023 10:15:57 GMT -5
I'm confused about the format this will take. It obviously won't be a canon PPV with All Out the week after. It won't be like Forbidden Door since Forbidden Door will have just happened a couple of months earlier. So is it just random matches of AEW/other promotions? Because while that sounds fun, I'm not sure it justifies a 70,000 attendance.
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Post by Kalmia on May 8, 2023 10:18:55 GMT -5
I think that this time around, AEW should just stick with the Wembley date. Make it a really big and special occasion.
If they return to the UK (and they really, really should after these sales), I'd like to see a tour around the country with arena dates/smaller stadiums. Film a week or two of Dynamite and Collision. Head up to the north of England and into Scotland as well as something in the south.
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Post by Fake Jesus on May 8, 2023 11:08:11 GMT -5
I'm confused about the format this will take. It obviously won't be a canon PPV with All Out the week after. It won't be like Forbidden Door since Forbidden Door will have just happened a couple of months earlier. So is it just random matches of AEW/other promotions? Because while that sounds fun, I'm not sure it justifies a 70,000 attendance. There doesn't seem to be any basis for believing this - it would be absolutely bizarre to have their biggest show of all time play second fiddle to All Out.
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Post by markymark on May 8, 2023 12:58:24 GMT -5
Andrew Zarian said last night that he had been told it's close to 70k.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 8, 2023 13:15:58 GMT -5
I'm confused about the format this will take. It obviously won't be a canon PPV with All Out the week after. It won't be like Forbidden Door since Forbidden Door will have just happened a couple of months earlier. So is it just random matches of AEW/other promotions? Because while that sounds fun, I'm not sure it justifies a 70,000 attendance. There doesn't seem to be any basis for believing this - it would be absolutely bizarre to have their biggest show of all time play second fiddle to All Out. Yeah I agree but it seems unlikely they'd have two canon PPVs within a couple of weeks of each other.
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Post by stoptheclocks on May 8, 2023 13:28:26 GMT -5
Oh Im sure they will but the WWE should be able to do both. I guess they are this year with MITB and house shows/live events. I don't see why it would be terrible for fans though providing they use different venues each time to cater to all of the UK. I'd much rather attend a PPV with meaningful matches than I would a live event that is just a rehash and watered down version of RAW the week before with the B team on the card. Because in the last calendar year WWE have run house shows in London, Birmingham, Glasgow, Paris, Leipzig, Dortmund, Stuttgart. That's already reduced from pre-covid when they'd run even smaller places like Brighton, Leeds, Minehead and Aberdeen. Replacing all those with one or even two stadium shows would take away the opportunity for people who don't have the money to travel or pay premium PPV prices to see WWE. All In is a fantastic statement from AEW and amazing PR, but there's a lot to be said for actually getting on the road and hitting up these individual cities. And I'm sure when AEW come back, they will do that.
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Post by Kalmia on May 8, 2023 13:29:51 GMT -5
I think All In would work well as a half and half show. Have half the matches be related to proper angles and the other half being showcase matches.
AEW often has more going on than a PPV card can carry so do some matches at All In instead of stuffing All Out with 12+ matches.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 8, 2023 14:28:34 GMT -5
There doesn't seem to be any basis for believing this - it would be absolutely bizarre to have their biggest show of all time play second fiddle to All Out. Yeah I agree but it seems unlikely they'd have two canon PPVs within a couple of weeks of each other. Why? Wouldn't be the first time a promotion did that. Hell, they could have one be the Elite PPV, the other the CM Punk one
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Post by raymondo316 on May 8, 2023 17:07:09 GMT -5
I was watching BT Sport and to my surprise I just saw a 30 second advert for All In, literally right before the start of a WWE RAW highlights show.
Really wasn't expecting that.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on May 8, 2023 17:31:16 GMT -5
Yeah I agree but it seems unlikely they'd have two canon PPVs within a couple of weeks of each other. Why? Wouldn't be the first time a promotion did that. Hell, they could have one be the Elite PPV, the other the CM Punk one
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Post by firsttimelongtime on May 8, 2023 21:26:59 GMT -5
There doesn't seem to be any basis for believing this - it would be absolutely bizarre to have their biggest show of all time play second fiddle to All Out. Yeah I agree but it seems unlikely they'd have two canon PPVs within a couple of weeks of each other. This will all be explained May 17 at the upfronts
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Post by lucaslawless on May 9, 2023 3:02:17 GMT -5
Where has the thought came from that this wouldn't be canon? They're not going to run their biggest PPV and event in AEW's history with no storylines and just a mashed together card and IF they did they'd be ridiculously wrong in doing so.
Obviously this is all wait and see stuff. All we have had is one announcement from Tony Khan and the rest is much speculation but I'm certain in the next few weeks we will start getting drip fed new information.
Likely, Forbidden Door needs to be out the way before they start announcing main event info and full card details but thinking they're going to just chuck some matches together seems rather odd and that's filtered down from Twitter or something.
All Out's format could change for all we know. It seems the date is locked in but with Collision on the horizon we have quite a lot to look forward to in the next few months.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 9, 2023 6:41:41 GMT -5
Where has the thought came from that this wouldn't be canon? They're not going to run their biggest PPV and event in AEW's history with no storylines and just a mashed together card and IF they did they'd be ridiculously wrong in doing so. Obviously this is all wait and see stuff. All we have had is one announcement from Tony Khan and the rest is much speculation but I'm certain in the next few weeks we will start getting drip fed new information. Likely, Forbidden Door needs to be out the way before they start announcing main event info and full card details but thinking they're going to just chuck some matches together seems rather odd and that's filtered down from Twitter or something. All Out's format could change for all we know. It seems the date is locked in but with Collision on the horizon we have quite a lot to look forward to in the next few months. To be honest for me it's as much the name as the timing. All In was a standalone show and I've just assumed this one would be too
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 9, 2023 7:37:26 GMT -5
Where has the thought came from that this wouldn't be canon? They're not going to run their biggest PPV and event in AEW's history with no storylines and just a mashed together card and IF they did they'd be ridiculously wrong in doing so. Obviously this is all wait and see stuff. All we have had is one announcement from Tony Khan and the rest is much speculation but I'm certain in the next few weeks we will start getting drip fed new information. Likely, Forbidden Door needs to be out the way before they start announcing main event info and full card details but thinking they're going to just chuck some matches together seems rather odd and that's filtered down from Twitter or something. All Out's format could change for all we know. It seems the date is locked in but with Collision on the horizon we have quite a lot to look forward to in the next few months. To be honest for me it's as much the name as the timing. All In was a standalone show and I've just assumed this one would be too All In 1 was standalone before AEW was created and was more of a combination of a bunch of other companies coming together. This is an AEW ppv and so far the only stuff AEW does that is "not canon"are the house shows and even those have had some story come out them.
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Post by lucaslawless on May 9, 2023 8:04:48 GMT -5
Yep, people forget that the first All In wasn't AEW. It was an independent PPV. It was The Matt, Nick and Cody that pretty much sold that to everyone with the help of ROH and others.
Now Tony gets to use the name after his purchase of ROH.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 9, 2023 8:32:46 GMT -5
I know it was pre-AEW, but why call it All In when the first All In was standalone unless it's following the same format? It's a strange name to choose otherwise
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Post by lucaslawless on May 9, 2023 8:38:13 GMT -5
Likely because everyone knows how successful the original All In was and what essentially kick started AEW. The All In name has a lot of credibility. Besides, if you have Double or Nothing and All Out as PPV names you may as well take a third gambling PPV name.. Especially when you own the rights to it.
Personally, I would have called it AEW: You Wanna Play Twenty-One?
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Post by CeilingFan on May 9, 2023 8:42:15 GMT -5
I hope they only have 8 matches. The British are strict when it comes to curfews for live events.
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on May 9, 2023 8:44:29 GMT -5
I know it was pre-AEW, but why call it All In when the first All In was standalone unless it's following the same format? It's a strange name to choose otherwise Cuz they're All In on going to England, baby, and All Out of time to get to Chicago. It's science.
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