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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 27, 2023 20:15:38 GMT -5
This feels like that old WWE One Night Only show. Where it was only shown in the UK and the card was mostly kinda random matches with high profile names. In what way? We’re saying all these things but nobody’s saying how because nothing’s happened yet. I’m not even saying it because I’m going but I do not understand how we are thinking this right now about a show that is now just starting to be built after everything else has been wrapped up. Like…make it make sense because I’m astoundingly confused right now.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 27, 2023 20:22:17 GMT -5
Hangman not really getting a lot of singles action (no TV singles match since Revolution) and promo time in the last 4-5 months. Wonder if he gets a big feature spot or not here as a building block of the company or if there’s still concern over him leaving at year’s end (especially with Punk seemingly back for good).
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Post by markymark on Jul 27, 2023 20:24:27 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2023 20:27:43 GMT -5
Hangman not really getting a lot of singles action (no TV singles match since Revolution) and promo time in the last 4-5 months. Wonder if he gets a big feature spot or not here as a building block of the company or if there’s still concern over him leaving at year’s end (especially with Punk seemingly back for good). He's either in a Trios Match with The Elite, or doing something on the card Hung Bucks vs House of Black would be a really good Wembley Match... unless they go with Acclaimed vs House of Black III
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Post by dynamitekidd on Jul 27, 2023 20:53:53 GMT -5
This feels like that old WWE One Night Only show. Where it was only shown in the UK and the card was mostly kinda random matches with high profile names. In what way? We’re saying all these things but nobody’s saying how because nothing’s happened yet. I’m not even saying it because I’m going but I do not understand how we are thinking this right now about a show that is now just starting to be built after everything else has been wrapped up. Like…make it make sense because I’m astoundingly confused right now. Idk it’s just a feeling I get. I guess if I have to say how, if the Jericho/Will match is true, that would fit the criteria of kinda random match with high profile names. If I’m wrong it’s ok, either kind of show is fine to me. Huge crowd, some of the biggest names you got, it’ll be fun.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 27, 2023 21:01:04 GMT -5
Think there's a lot of assumptions for a card that is still forming on TV. Theres a lot of obvious build up for matches despite no announced ones. I'd have liked Will/Omega 3 there but honestly never made sense story wise to do so. Think they'll finish that story at Wrestle Kingdom. Also think we'll see a more solid line up as the shows go by. Feels like we have the same discussion about lack of card for just about every AEW PPV to the point where we should just accept Tony will build the stories for a month+ and announce full cards as close to the show as possible.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 27, 2023 22:16:34 GMT -5
Hangman not really getting a lot of singles action (no TV singles match since Revolution) and promo time in the last 4-5 months. Wonder if he gets a big feature spot or not here as a building block of the company or if there’s still concern over him leaving at year’s end (especially with Punk seemingly back for good). He's either in a Trios Match with The Elite, or doing something on the card Hung Bucks vs House of Black would be a really good Wembley Match... unless they go with Acclaimed vs House of Black III The last two Acclaimed/House of Black matches were completely nothing, so to do it a third time in that environment would certainly be a choice. Also One Night Only had attendance of 11,000. That's about on par with what WWF was doing for most general shows at that time, so they didn't really need to do anything special. This is by far, BY FAR, the biggest gate AEW has ever had and may ever have. So to treat it like that would be unbelievably stupid if they want to make a note of how important they will treat their biggest shows as.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2023 22:28:32 GMT -5
He's either in a Trios Match with The Elite, or doing something on the card Hung Bucks vs House of Black would be a really good Wembley Match... unless they go with Acclaimed vs House of Black III The last two Acclaimed/House of Black matches were completely nothing, so to do it a third time in that environment would certainly be a choice. Also One Night Only had attendance of 11,000. That's about on par with what WWF was doing for most general shows at that time, so they didn't really need to do anything special. This is by far, BY FAR, the biggest gate AEW has ever had and may ever have. So to treat it like that would be unbelievably stupid if they want to make a note of how important they will treat their biggest shows as. I assume Acclaimed are on the card but idk where they take the Daddy Ass story Hung Bucks vs House of Black would realistically be the biggest Trios Match they could do if they don't do FTR/Bucks. I'd PERSONALLY do FTR/Bullet Club Gold III, if FTR keep the titles, maybe with an added stipulation.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 27, 2023 22:36:36 GMT -5
The last two Acclaimed/House of Black matches were completely nothing, so to do it a third time in that environment would certainly be a choice. Also One Night Only had attendance of 11,000. That's about on par with what WWF was doing for most general shows at that time, so they didn't really need to do anything special. This is by far, BY FAR, the biggest gate AEW has ever had and may ever have. So to treat it like that would be unbelievably stupid if they want to make a note of how important they will treat their biggest shows as. I assume Acclaimed are on the card but idk where they take the Daddy Ass story Hung Bucks vs House of Black would realistically be the biggest Trios Match they could do if they don't do FTR/Bucks. I'd PERSONALLY do FTR/Bullet Club Gold III, if FTR keep the titles, maybe with an added stipulation. They already did Omega and the Bucks/House of Black, don't really see the need to morph it and run that back. I'd rather they just do FTR/Bucks and Kenny/Punk, especially if they really are unsure if the Bucks or Kenny are staying since those are the biggest matches you can do with either. For Hangman I have absolutely no idea what to do with him. He's been either intertwined with quasi Elite/Dark Order stuff or Jon Moxley for basically a year at this point. It would have been cool to get an actual Hangman/Claudio match at one point but seems like that entire thing is fully done so I got nothing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 27, 2023 23:33:14 GMT -5
Honestly, if HoB are defending there, I want them to lose the titles. I mean, I kind of want that, anyway, since I feel like it's time, but it'd be the time and place to do it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 28, 2023 3:36:41 GMT -5
HoB Vs Sting, Darby and Wayne would be good and a hell of an experience for Nick.
They can beat a Swerve led trio to earn the shot. Or just add that team too.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Jul 28, 2023 3:54:17 GMT -5
I don’t get all of the massive hand-wringing over Jericho vs Osprey if they do go that route. I get to an extent why some might be disappointed to an extent but I’m glad for singing Judas more than anything
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Post by cookiedoh85 on Jul 28, 2023 4:14:02 GMT -5
I have a horrible feeling this Perry stuff is leading to him vs someone like RVD at Wembley instead of HOOK which is where the story should be going. It’s 2023, ECW’s Honor has been defended longer than the promotion itself existed, I don’t care.
They have a real simple story of Perry having stolen the title from HOOK that his father created. He doesn’t respect it and is the last guy who should be holding it. That’s the story - easy, not some rehash of an ECW story that every other promoter under the sun has done. I’ve no interest at all in seeing a conveyor belt of ECW guys facing off with Perry in what will be slow, boring matches that will do more to harm his chances as a heel than it will help.
An FTW rules rematch at Wembley is such an easy sell and makes sense. The idea that RVD is being floated to just drop in and take a spot on their biggest show rather than one of their own homegrown talents in HOOK is insane and the exact opposite of what AEW was supposed to be. WWE rightly gets dragged for bringing in part timers to take up spots on their show and AEW shouldn’t be immune from this either.
If it’s RVD or some other ECW alumni that makes the save for Lynn on Wednesday rather than HOOK then it’s ridiculous.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 28, 2023 4:27:22 GMT -5
I have a horrible feeling this Perry stuff is leading to him vs someone like RVD at Wembley instead of HOOK which is where the story should be going. It’s 2023, ECW’s Honor has been defended longer than the promotion itself existed, I don’t care. They have a real simple story of Perry having stolen the title from HOOK that his father created. He doesn’t respect it and is the last guy who should be holding it. That’s the story - easy, not some rehash of an ECW story that every other promoter under the sun has done. I’ve no interest at all in seeing a conveyor belt of ECW guys facing off with Perry in what will be slow, boring matches that will do more to harm his chances as a heel than it will help. An FTW rules rematch at Wembley is such an easy sell and makes sense. The idea that RVD is being floated to just drop in and take a spot on their biggest show rather than one of their own homegrown talents in HOOK is insane and the exact opposite of what AEW was supposed to be. WWE rightly gets dragged for bringing in part timers to take up spots on their show and AEW shouldn’t be immune from this either. If it’s RVD or some other ECW alumni that makes the save for Lynn on Wednesday rather than HOOK then it’s ridiculous. HOOK can easily face Jack at All Out. Idk if HOOK is ready for an 80K crowd yet, I think people forget how green he actually still is, but we can't really forget we have another PPV a week after this one. I don't think it's ridiculous if Jack faces someone like RVD at Wembley and then faces HOOK at All Out, that's not really shafting HOOK, they're gonna re-build him up with vignettes likely. That being said there's a month before this event, Jack could easily face RVD on a regular Dynamite and that's if he even shows up, this is a lot of projection to what we're assuming is going to happen. I'd personally love for the storyline to be Jack running through some originals to get back to HOOK. RVD and 2 Cold Scorpio can still go, hell call Tajiri, see what he's doin', there are some options there and it doesn't mean HOOK's not gonna happen or that any of it happens at Wembley either.
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Post by clifford on Jul 28, 2023 4:58:44 GMT -5
AEW announced Okada/Danielson & Omega/Ospreay on June 4th, 3 weeks before Forbidden Door. Those announcements alone were enough for most people to declare the PPV an amazing card (the majority of the rest of that card was only announced in the week leading up to the PPV).
I feel if AEW just have two massive matches announced by the end of Dynamite on Wed (3 1/2 weeks before Wembley), then a lot of these complaints re: the card for the event disappear.
The unknowing is what is getting at people, I think. You have this massive collection of talent and so many options, people just want to be put of their misery and know the card lol. I get that. I've seen so many wishlists and predicted cards for this and to be honest I love like, 90% of them so I'm probably going to be happy no matter what. But then I'm easy to please and I'll be there live too
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 28, 2023 5:42:17 GMT -5
I'm concerned that this will be more like a novelty, one-off let's-get-everyone-on-the-card show. It's been promoted as an AEW show and has only AEW people on the poster. I don't want a British indie show or an ECW tribute show when I thought ECW was shit the first time anyway. People bought tickets for an AEW show.
Sole exception is Will Ospreay, who's done enough with AEW to justify it and also he's Will Ospreay
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Post by daaave on Jul 28, 2023 5:58:34 GMT -5
I think you could headline with Cole vs MJF as things are now. Have them lose to FTR tomorrow. Tease a little a bit of heat between the two like they did last week. Have MJF stick to his word from this week. 'I wanna face my best friend one on one in front of 80k people etc etc'.
Then come match time you got tons of options to keep audience hooked with subtle teasing in the preceeding weeks (bit like the old Rock/Austin WM17 build) Is MJF going to screw Cole over. Is Cole going to turn instead.
Or my preferred options, they have a banger back and forth where both men give it everything which MJF wins and then they hug it out as 80k fans mental
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Post by markymark on Jul 28, 2023 10:44:40 GMT -5
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Post by jm on Jul 28, 2023 11:08:19 GMT -5
Can we all wait for matches to be officially announced first before we deem this event to be a disappointment? Ospreay/Jericho hasn't even officially announced yet, and yet people are already saying they are disappointed in All In. Let's wait for the card to be officially announced before we all grab our pitchforks and torches and say this event was a failure.
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Post by jm on Jul 28, 2023 11:21:25 GMT -5
It's going to be a fun day on Twitter and across social media when All In officially passes WM 32's record.
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