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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 3:54:18 GMT -5
Whatever dude, you clearly feel different than others, so I won't press this further, but I don't think it's not meeting high standards, especially when the damn thing hasn't happened yet and if the card happens to not deliver when the show is over, maybe I'll agree, as it stands, I have a hard time calling something a let down, not up to standard, and bullshit when we likely have more matches to be announced and well... it hasn't even happened yet. And the card has a ton of matches on it already, keeping a few in the back pocket to announce in the shows to come isn't a bad thing, and I don't think the booking for this show has been in a poor state nor do I think that for the booking, especially considering how well the world title program has been set up. Again, you won't agree so there's no point in continuing on, but I like how this looks, I'd like to see how it actually delivers, before I call this some grand failure or something. Been an exhausting last few days of wrestling news, I wanna be positive about something unless it gives me a reason not to be lol Mate I wasn't attacking you personally, you replied to me. If you're excited that's grand I know you weren't, it's depressing however to come into this thread constantly and see people just down on the card and a show that hasn't even happened yet It's supposed to be an exciting time for wrestling as a whole and it just feels like until the show actually starts, and maybe even after it ends, they'll still be people upset despite the fact that this should be a celebration that a Non-WWE entity can do this, and who knows, maybe do it commonly if this works out. I want to look forward to that and be hopeful for that. And that's also why I hope this card kills it, because this card so far to me is showcasing AEW first and foremost, and what they're about, and that's what the world should see imo. So no hard feelings, I hope the card surprises you, overdelivers to your expectations.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Aug 17, 2023 3:55:47 GMT -5
I’ve learned with AEW that even when a card looks disappointing (a few PPV’s have on paper) I’ve never come away thinking “that was a waste of time” or “I shouldn’t have stayed up until 5am for that BS”. There’s still a few more shows to make a few more matches and heck, I’d be happy with a battle royal of some sort. Maybe a tag team gauntlet?
Either way, AEW has built up a lot of goodwill with me and I’m sure one way or another this card will go down on history.
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Post by daaave on Aug 17, 2023 3:59:08 GMT -5
They only issue I have with the card is Kenny not being in a singles. But this trios is no dud so I can live with it.
I might be in the minority but Jericho vs Ospreay excites me. That's a bit of a dream never thought we'd see it match. Jericho is past it now but he can still have good match when the moment is right (Kingston, Starks, Mox matches etc). Ospreay can have a 4 star match with a paper bag. The atmosphere will be hot for this match too. I wouldn't sleep on this. Could be great
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 3:59:38 GMT -5
I’ve learned with AEW that even when a card looks disappointing (a few PPV’s have on paper) I’ve never come away thinking “that was a waste of time” or “I shouldn’t have stayed up until 5am for that BS”. There’s still a few more shows to make a few more matches and heck, I’d be happy with a battle royal of some sort. Maybe a tag team gauntlet? Either way, AEW has built up a lot of goodwill with me and I’m sure one way or another this card will go down on history. I wouldn't be shocked if we get one or two battle royals for the men and women on this card. Zero Hour however has been billed a one match show according to MJF unless he was just heeling that up. But it would be the best way to get people on the roster on the cards and maybe give some people a title shot in the future for winning it in front of the big crowd.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 4:00:45 GMT -5
They only issue I have with the card is Kenny not being in a singles. But this trios is no dud so I can live with it. I might be in the minority but Jericho vs Ospreay excites me. That's a bit of a dream never thought we'd see it match. Jericho is past it now but he can still have good match when the moment is right (Kingston, Starks, Mox matches etc). Ospreay can have a 4 star match with a paper bag. The atmosphere will be hot for this match too. I wouldn't sleep on this. Could be great I'm excited for it, mainly because I think Jericho's turning back the clock here in front of 80K, and Will is incredible in ring and can tell an insane story This is likely one of Jericho's last big hurrah's in front of a MASSIVE crowd like this, so I imagine this is gonna be something he's training his ass off for.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 4:22:24 GMT -5
When people are saying it's like a Saudi show because it's not exactly how they want it to be, it absolutely makes it hard to take any of it seriously. That's an insane statement
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Post by discoelysium on Aug 17, 2023 4:28:43 GMT -5
When people are saying it's like a Saudi show because it's not exactly how they want it to be, it absolutely makes it hard to take any of it seriously. That's an insane statement Thrown together card, lack of good build outside the main event, feels weirdly secondary despite the actually importance of it. Stand by the comparison
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 4:30:30 GMT -5
When people are saying it's like a Saudi show because it's not exactly how they want it to be, it absolutely makes it hard to take any of it seriously. That's an insane statement Thrown together card, lack of good build outside the main event, feels weirdly secondary despite the actually importance of it. Stand by the comparison I mean, it’s hard to take you seriously to debate you after the first comment so I’m not going to bother. Saying my piece and moving on.
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Post by discoelysium on Aug 17, 2023 4:35:25 GMT -5
Thrown together card, lack of good build outside the main event, feels weirdly secondary despite the actually importance of it. Stand by the comparison I mean, it’s hard to take you seriously to debate you after the first comment so I’m not going to bother. Saying my piece and moving on. Bit rude, but no worries
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 17, 2023 4:56:14 GMT -5
When people are saying it's like a Saudi show because it's not exactly how they want it to be, it absolutely makes it hard to take any of it seriously. That's an insane statement Thrown together card, lack of good build outside the main event, feels weirdly secondary despite the actually importance of it. Stand by the comparison It's a factually incorrect statement, but alright.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 17, 2023 5:03:54 GMT -5
Shifa and Storm will be carrying that women's title four-way
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Post by lucaslawless on Aug 17, 2023 5:05:57 GMT -5
Whatever dude, you clearly feel different than others, so I won't press this further, but I don't think it's not meeting high standards, especially when the damn thing hasn't happened yet and if the card happens to not deliver when the show is over, maybe I'll agree, as it stands, I have a hard time calling something a let down, not up to standard, and bullshit when we likely have more matches to be announced and well... it hasn't even happened yet. And the card has a ton of matches on it already, keeping a few in the back pocket to announce in the shows to come isn't a bad thing, and I don't think the booking for this show has been in a poor state nor do I think that for the booking, especially considering how well the world title program has been set up. Again, you won't agree so there's no point in continuing on, but I like how this looks, I'd like to see how it actually delivers, before I call this some grand failure or something. Been an exhausting last few days of wrestling news, I wanna be positive about something unless it gives me a reason not to be lol Mate I wasn't attacking you personally, you replied to me. If you're excited that's grand What card were you expecting exactly? Other than an Ospray or Omega singles match?!
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Post by stoptheclocks on Aug 17, 2023 5:11:28 GMT -5
I don't think the card is all that, but Stadium Stampede at Wembley will be mega.
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Post by discoelysium on Aug 17, 2023 5:12:25 GMT -5
Mate I wasn't attacking you personally, you replied to me. If you're excited that's grand What card were you expecting exactly? Other than an Ospray or Omega singles match?! One with decent build? Some marquee matches? Not a bunch of big tag matches that feel thrown together? And definitely not Jericho-Ospreay. Not running Joe-Punk again when you've already had Pink win and he's involved in other programs (though tbf Joe has been killing it building it by himself). I don't have a dream card for Wembley. But outside of the main everything feels cold. And that's a reflection, for me, of where the TV product is at the moment.
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Post by dablueboy on Aug 17, 2023 5:29:27 GMT -5
In fact you know what this feels like. It feels like a WWE Saudi show. And that's damning as far as I'm concerned. That isn’t a bad comparison considering the last four Saudi shows, starting from Crown Jewel 2021, have been really good
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 17, 2023 5:35:57 GMT -5
Jericho Vs Ospreay is good
Stadium Stampede is mixed, Mox would take half the show to get to the ring otherwise, arguably aew's signature match so makes sense in Wembley, will be good but I'm guessing injuries messed it up a bit so we got a weird line up. Still ensures several favourites are on the card so fine in isolation if not combined with...
..Golden Elite Vs BCG and Takeshita. The one I'm massively disappointed with. Makes no sense to me in or out of kayfabe unless those involved are carrying injuries (admittedly I stupidly saw the matches on twitter before seeing dynamite but can't imagine my mind will be changed). Hangman Vs White as singles and Golden lovers Vs Takeshita and a partner he chooses or just Omega Vs Takeshita make so much more sense. Can't imagine anyone would be too upset if Juice accompanied Jay White instead of wrestling or of he was in a battle royale.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 5:41:13 GMT -5
What card were you expecting exactly? Other than an Ospray or Omega singles match?! One with decent build? Some marquee matches? Not a bunch of big tag matches that feel thrown together? And definitely not Jericho-Ospreay. Not running Joe-Punk again when you've already had Pink win and he's involved in other programs (though tbf Joe has been killing it building it by himself). I don't have a dream card for Wembley. But outside of the main everything feels cold. And that's a reflection, for me, of where the TV product is at the moment. Still doesn't mean the Saudi Show comparison works, it really doesn't Also they're throwing together a lot of marquee stuff for this. Sting at Wembley is a big deal and that storyline has been incredible solid with Swerve, Darby, Fox, and Wayne. Punk/Joe has plenty left in the tank after the first one and the first one is the entire reason the second one, with more meat to it, happens And then Omega/Kota/Hangman vs White/Takeshita/Juice is a dream match level trios bout, that's like six of the best, and yes, Juice has been damn good, going at it I can't think of much on this card that hasn't been solidly built or has been half assed on TV, even the women's match has been getting solid build and Toni's been flaunting a really great new character As for Jericho vs Ospreay, Ospreay is gonna be huge in this show and Jericho is over in whatever he does. If you don't think he's gonna bring it, fair, but I think he's gonna show out huge for a show like this. As I've said, fair if you aren't a fan of this show or AEW TV at the moment, but when you throw out takes like you are, I'm not really shocked people are contesting it?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 5:42:42 GMT -5
Jericho Vs Ospreay is good Stadium Stampede is mixed, Mox would take half the show to get to the ring otherwise, arguably aew's signature match so makes sense in Wembley, will be good but I'm guessing injuries messed it up a bit so we got a weird line up. Still ensures several favourites are on the card so fine in isolation if not combined with... ..Golden Elite Vs BCG and Takeshita. The one I'm massively disappointed with. Makes no sense to me in or out of kayfabe unless those involved are carrying injuries (admittedly I stupidly saw the matches on twitter before seeing dynamite but can't imagine my mind will be changed). Hangman Vs White as singles and Golden lovers Vs Takeshita and a partner he chooses or just Omega Vs Takeshita make so much more sense. Can't imagine anyone would be too upset if Juice accompanied Jay White instead of wrestling or of he was in a battle royale. BCG works because they've been going after the Bucks, so they're also going after Kenny. Don took advantage of that, and Kenny's friends are gonna back him up This has the makings of being the best Trios match of the entire year so hell if I'm complaining, I get the idea of Kenny in a singles match but I don't think they went with a dud choice here tbh
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 5:43:36 GMT -5
. Can't imagine anyone would be too upset if Juice accompanied Jay White instead of wrestling or of he was in a battle royale. Sort of would have been a weird message considering Juice’s rapid improvement from his debut match since being signed and basically being a part of every Collision from the start to go “We’d like for you to be a manager for this show and not wrestling”, though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 5:44:59 GMT -5
. Can't imagine anyone would be too upset if Juice accompanied Jay White instead of wrestling or of he was in a battle royale. Sort of would have been a weird message considering Juice’s rapid improvement from his debut match since being signed and basically being a part of every Collision from the start to go “We’d like for you to be a manager for this show and not wrestling”, though. Juice deserves this match Anyone who hasn't been paying attention to Collision might not realize just how amazing this dude has been this year, but Collision is the Juice show far as I'm concerned so far.
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