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Post by clifford on Aug 17, 2023 5:49:52 GMT -5
I'd have done Kenny/Takeshita Hanger & Kota vs Jay n Juice OC/Mox for International title 5 on 5 Stadium Stampede with Claudio and Eddie leading their respective teams
That would've been the ideal situation for me, I get that's 4 matches instead of 2 but still, that would've been my preference.
As it is I am both hyped and a little dissapointed, but as I have also said, that disappointment will disappear as soon as the show is on.
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Post by Moppy on Aug 17, 2023 5:57:25 GMT -5
Of the announced matches so far, I’m absolutely thrilled to have a ticket to get to see Cole/MJF, Bucks/FTR, and a stadium stampede.
Having Aussie Open, Darby, Swerve and Sting on the card is great, I’m convinced Jericho/Ospreay will be good and the women’s title match should be fun.
That said, the Golden Elite v Bullet Club/Callis Family match feels ultra-thrown together, and sacrifices some of the spotlight that Omega and Hangman should have received via singles matches IMO.
I’m also firmly of the opinion that there should be another women’s match (hopefully tba) and the International title should really be defended on international events!
I do think the card has shaped up quite nicely. But let’s not act as if posters who may be underwhelmed with how the card is looking are somehow being unreasonable.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 6:10:20 GMT -5
Of the announced matches so far, I’m absolutely thrilled to have a ticket to get to see Cole/MJF, Bucks/FTR, and a stadium stampede. Having Aussie Open, Darby, Swerve and Sting on the card is great, I’m convinced Jericho/Ospreay will be good and the women’s title match should be fun. That said, the Golden Elite v Bullet Club/Callis Family match feels ultra-thrown together, and sacrifices some of the spotlight that Omega and Hangman should have received via singles matches IMO. I’m also firmly of the opinion that there should be another women’s match (hopefully tba) and the International title should really be defended on international events! I do think the card has shaped up quite nicely. But let’s not act as if posters who may be underwhelmed with how the card is looking are somehow being unreasonable. I don't think people are saying they're being unreasonable, but people saying it's a "Saudi Show" are being a bit hyperbolic, I think that's fair to say from another perspective. Also didn't think the Trios match was super thrown together, BCG and Bucks have been feuding, so it just combines all the Elite together and Kenny/Takeshita. I guess there's an argument about singles matches but the match is likely still gonna have like 12-14 on it, so I get it... this match will likely go plenty of time where everyone gets their shit in though, I'm thinking it'll be an outright spectacle and also Kota won't have a bunch of tacks in his unprepared shoes making him move like he's 60 this time lol
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 17, 2023 6:18:21 GMT -5
I don't think it's unfair to say some of the card is a bit rushed outside the main event but I do think it's a bit hand wavey to just go "well outside of the main event..." The main event matters a lot and this is probably the best built world title main event match since Hangman/Omega and in some ways this has been a more entertaining build. It carries a lot of weight with me.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 6:18:29 GMT -5
A lot of us have said constantly that we get some people not liking it. Just some of the stuff being said is, in our opinion, silly and hyperbolic all because some people didn’t get the card they wanted.
Like, maybe this is because I’m used to going to big hyped shows and having people I like appear in tag matches instead of singles that putting people I want to see in tags rather than singles doesn’t undermine the fact I still get to see those people. The first time I saw Okada was in a tag match with him teaming with Gedo against Tanahashi and Liger and that personally didn’t bother me because I still saw Okada. Heck, I saw him and Tanahashi go at it before one of their last Wrestle Kingdom match for a bit when he still had the briefcase. It was cool as hell!
We just have different standards for stuff and that’s entirely fine. When some of us here and on Twitter are acting like it’s some kind of disaster, key words being “some of us” so not everyone, is what I take issue with.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 17, 2023 6:35:35 GMT -5
I don't think it's unfair to say some of the card is a bit rushed outside the main event but I do think it's a bit hand wavey to just go "well outside of the main event..." The main event matters a lot and this is probably the best built world title main event match since Hangman/Omega and in some ways this has been a more entertaining build. It carries a lot of weight with me. I know it's from an entirely different era with different expectations, but I'm imagining Canadian fans being upset that Wrestlemania VI only really had Hogan/Warrior with a lot of build to it, with only some for Piper/Bad News, Roberts/DiBiase and Boss Man/Akeem. Hell, Savage/Rhodes wasn't even a singles match! But ultimately you've got a whole bunch of matches on this card with weeks of build behind them. A person can say "I wasn't a fan of that build" and, ok, fine, that's their prerogative, but there's literally weeks of material behind the main event, the coffin match, the Stadium Stampede, the matches involving Don Callis clients/allies, etc. Joe/Punk has a little less but still had a lot about their history highlighted on TV for quite a bit of late, and Bucks/FTR doesn't even need a big story behind it given it's their rubber match for all the marbles. The one bit I can see is people feeling like Bullet Club Gold got tacked onto the Omega/Takeshita beef, but like I said before I'm not really concerned on that: there's so much history involving Jay White with both Kenny and Ibushi, White can easily make it clear why he'd agree to align with Callis on this, and the guys involved in this match are known for doing a ton of storytelling in their matches and will likely use it as a big platform for that. Not getting a Kenny singles match is a bummer, for sure, but there's likely no way this six man just ends up some thrown together thing with all sizzle and no steak.
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Post by SneakMan on Aug 17, 2023 6:48:15 GMT -5
I mean maybe my standards are just low but my reaction to seeing Golden Elite vs Bullet Club and Takeshita is "holy shit this match is gonna rule." Likewise for Stadium Stampede.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 17, 2023 6:50:05 GMT -5
I mean maybe my standards are just low but my reaction to seeing Golden Elite vs Bullet Club and Takeshita is "holy shit this match is gonna rule." Likewise for Stadium Stampede. I think if you followed their journey from New Japan, this is a very exciting match. And I think the match itself and the finish will have significant storyline implications coming out of it.
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Post by markymark on Aug 17, 2023 6:50:05 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 17, 2023 6:51:52 GMT -5
Hard to say, since "easter egg" doesn't necessarily sound like it has to mean anything major, but "one of the biggest pops of the night" does.
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Post by Moppy on Aug 17, 2023 6:58:09 GMT -5
A cameo from Regal perhaps?
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clifford
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Post by clifford on Aug 17, 2023 7:03:07 GMT -5
I will say that I did a little list a few months ago of the wrestlers I hoped I'd get to see live at this show and as it stands every one of them bar two that I still expect to be there are crossed off.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 17, 2023 7:05:01 GMT -5
My first thought was Bret or an English football legend appearing.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 7:05:38 GMT -5
As an aside, if the Lionesses win the World Cup Sunday, TK should totally invite them to Wembley for the show. Easy pop, it’s in the place they won the Euros and you’ll get publicity because of the success.
I’d probably do it if they come second but still!
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 17, 2023 7:08:18 GMT -5
Really don't get the "no build outside the main event" thing here. Jericho/Osprey is a direct build from the, in my mind, overly long Callis Family storyline. The women's 4 way is a build that's been going on since last year. Stadium Stampede has been building for over a month now. The tag title match, while a bit sudden, has precedent from FTR's debut in AEW. Golden Elite vs BCG and Takeshita has build from Omega's last days in NJPW and a part of Callis's betrayal.
Like, there's a logical and nuanced story for just about every match on here. I don't see how any of this looks like a lesser card or thrown together. Going by AEW track record, I fully believe every match here will deliver.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Aug 17, 2023 7:14:45 GMT -5
Backstage prep-talk to the BCC from Phil Mitchell.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 17, 2023 7:22:55 GMT -5
My first thought was Bret or an English football legend appearing. Hadn't thought of Bret; could even have Davey Boy Jr. appear with him. Ooh, and yeah, inviting the Lionesses would be awesome, regardless of how the final goes.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Aug 17, 2023 7:38:07 GMT -5
i hope AEW bring there own screens as well so we have something better to watch that the rubbish Wembley has.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 17, 2023 7:41:17 GMT -5
Christ, now I'm seeing people in other places say this card has the "same format as a WWE house show".
Humanity is cursed.
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Post by lucaslawless on Aug 17, 2023 7:43:20 GMT -5
Oh god is Fury going to sing American Pie awkwardly again. Id say any UK celebs likely wont get the reaction that AEW would want.. Though if it was Regal or Bret then thats going to go down perfectly. Bret surely must be a damn sight easier considering hes on good terms with FTR and Punk too. Regal would be incredible but I dont see it happening.. Surely he should be screaming WAR GAMES at the top of his lungs soon anyway.
Kurt Angle?
OMG DWEAN DAAROX JONSIN!1
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