Zone Was Wrong
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 17, 2023 16:12:18 GMT -5
Live yeah, Omega in a singles match would be great, but I think we forget how damn good he can be in a multi man tag match. Omega/Hangman is still my favorite tag champs in the companies history and the best of 7 he and the Bucks were apart of was legendary. So yeah, I'm STUPID excited to see him team with Kota and Hangman at All In.
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ssdrivin
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Post by ssdrivin on Aug 17, 2023 16:17:56 GMT -5
It's the constant barrage around various points of the internet right now, not quite so much here: "it's all tag matches!", "it's just an episode of Dynamite!", "it's like a house show!", "just a bunch of spotfests!", and, yes, "there's no story!" or whatever other usual bullshit. It's really turned into a bunch of children whining that they didn't get the exact matches they wanted, and thus that means the entire card sucks. Meantime just about all of us would love to be live for what this show's getting, and the fantasy cards they keep putting together in their heads and raging over not getting wouldn't exist in a single night show for any company. Nothing guarantees a show will be great; you can lay out all kinds of stories or cool matches and then just have things be poorly executed when the time comes. I was so excited for Danielson vs. Okada, but the match never got to the next level because Bryan broke his arm. Shit happens, and if the show ends up not being performed or laid out well, by all means people can go to town on that. But here we are, a little over a week from a card that'll have tens of thousands in the stands and some massive matches booked on it, and to some of these people you'd think Khan was putting on a mudshow for them because they're not getting the specific singles matches they wanted. I've honestly never seen anything like it before; it's certainly not everybody, but I've now seen people literally calling the card and build "disrespectful." If I didn't know any better, I'd say I was being gaslit. All of the hand wringing and doom posting and concern trolling across the internet over All In has to be one of the most ridiculous and laughable things I've ever seen in my life as a wrestling fan. But the difference between them and the other side of the argument (here, in this thread, not "somewhere on the internet")?
Most of the people saying they're disappointed in the build or the card are saying they're disappointed in the build or the card.
They're not the ones saying "stop having standards and expectations and reasonable requests and stop being mean about my beloved untouchable precious, because your opinion is wrong and stupid and you, personally, are an idiot or a troll".
Sure, negativity when you're trying to enjoy something sucks, but something that sucks more is disregarding and demeaning someone else's experience of that thing and calling them out for not agreeing with you.
A bunch of us are going to this thing, we've paid quite a bit of money to be there, we want it to be all it can be, we're not just shitting on the company because of some petty tribal one-upmanship. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask that the company show that it can back up booking an event this big, which so many people are going to be paying a ton of attention to. Acting like people are being babies or demanding the unreasonable is just disrespectful. You can disagree with their opinions, of course you can, this whole forum exists because we like to discuss this stuff, but there's no need for this kind of dismissive, invalidating, accusatory language.
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Post by gentlemengreg1 on Aug 17, 2023 16:19:46 GMT -5
About this Golden Lovers & Hangman being together at Wembley…what are we to make of Hangman once again drinking a beer and being unsure of himself during his promo last night?
Nothing to see here….or troubles ahead for the cowboy?
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Aug 17, 2023 16:30:35 GMT -5
Ospreay V Jericho is gonna be a cool-down match. Will is gonna have to shift to such a slow gear for him, I hope it doesn't totally suck
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 17, 2023 16:31:51 GMT -5
Ospreay V Jericho is gonna be a cool-down match. Will is gonna have to shift to such a slow gear for him, I hope it doesn't totally suck No it won't Will will likely get one of the pops of the night and Jericho will have 80K singing Judas, the pace might start slow but these two are very good at telling a story in their matches. Give them a chance.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 17, 2023 16:53:29 GMT -5
If that Forbidden Door card this year didn't happen then people probably wouldn't moan as much. They'll do well to ever live up to the hype of that show Which is ironic, because the first Forbidden Door card was largely criticized by almost everyone. AEW didn't even announce Okada for it until what, the Dynamite right before the show?
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 17, 2023 16:54:41 GMT -5
Curious to see how Kota is here in a straight up wrestling match. Should definitely have a better idea of how he's doing since it won't be gimmick match this time
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 17, 2023 16:56:36 GMT -5
If that Forbidden Door card this year didn't happen then people probably wouldn't moan as much. They'll do well to ever live up to the hype of that show Which is ironic, because the first Forbidden Door card was largely criticized by almost everyone. AEW didn't even announce Okada for it until what, the Dynamite right before the show? Oh the build to the first Forbidden Door was the most snake built wrestling build since the “Elevated Liver Enzymes” days of the Great American Bash. The only difference was that they pulled off one of the best shows of the year from the wreckage.
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Post by khali on Aug 17, 2023 16:57:29 GMT -5
My favorite complaint right now is “aside from the main event, it’s not been built well.” No, that’s not how it works! It’s one of the hottest and most intriguing stories they’ve ever done, putting it on the biggest show they’ve ever done is a huge point in the show’s favor.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 17, 2023 16:57:57 GMT -5
Which is ironic, because the first Forbidden Door card was largely criticized by almost everyone. AEW didn't even announce Okada for it until what, the Dynamite right before the show? Oh the build to the first Forbidden Door was the most snake built wrestling build since the “Elevated Liver Enzymes” days of the Great American Bash. The only difference was that they pulled off one of the best shows of the year from the wreckage. Oh, absolutely. There were definitely extenuating circumstances. I just found the comparison amusing.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 17, 2023 17:01:50 GMT -5
Ospreay V Jericho is gonna be a cool-down match. Will is gonna have to shift to such a slow gear for him, I hope it doesn't totally suck Jericho is still capable of good matches especailly with somebody of Ospreay's talents. Admitedly I don't watch much NJPW but I assume he wrestles the old guys there plus a lot worse that Jericho like the dregs of Bullet Club/HoT (Fale?). Curious to see how Kota is here in a straight up wrestling match. Should definitely have a better idea of how he's doing since it won't be gimmick match this time You can see for yourself in the main event from GLEAT last week, it was better than his B&G performance. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgs9CVR5olU
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 17, 2023 18:00:02 GMT -5
All of the hand wringing and doom posting and concern trolling across the internet over All In has to be one of the most ridiculous and laughable things I've ever seen in my life as a wrestling fan. But the difference between them and the other side of the argument (here, in this thread, not "somewhere on the internet")?
Most of the people saying they're disappointed in the build or the card are saying they're disappointed in the build or the card.
They're not the ones saying "stop having standards and expectations and reasonable requests and stop being mean about my beloved untouchable precious, because your opinion is wrong and stupid and you, personally, are an idiot or a troll".
Sure, negativity when you're trying to enjoy something sucks, but something that sucks more is disregarding and demeaning someone else's experience of that thing and calling them out for not agreeing with you.
A bunch of us are going to this thing, we've paid quite a bit of money to be there, we want it to be all it can be, we're not just shitting on the company because of some petty tribal one-upmanship. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask that the company show that it can back up booking an event this big, which so many people are going to be paying a ton of attention to. Acting like people are being babies or demanding the unreasonable is just disrespectful. You can disagree with their opinions, of course you can, this whole forum exists because we like to discuss this stuff, but there's no need for this kind of dismissive, invalidating, accusatory language.
Yeah this is approaching “protect the shield” type of posts in this thread from people trying to dismiss posters’ legitimate criticisms and concerns. Talk about moving goalposts, seeking attention and responses for dopamine, doomposting and concern trolling.
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Post by markymark on Aug 17, 2023 18:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 17, 2023 18:06:14 GMT -5
Definitely think the card is looking a little better with a big gimmick match like Stadium Stampede added. Still wish we’d get an OC title defense and Omega and Mox singles matches for this show. I’m guessing they’re saving those for All Out.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 18, 2023 0:50:43 GMT -5
This meme's gonna have to be replaced with Bischoffs face soon.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Aug 18, 2023 1:23:35 GMT -5
Saying something reductive and dismissive to straw man peoples well reasoned opinions and then hiding behind 'oh not here, I'm talking about other places on the internet' is mega tedious.
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Post by deezy on Aug 18, 2023 1:45:43 GMT -5
Saying something reductive and dismissive to straw man peoples well reasoned opinions and then hiding behind 'oh not here, I'm talking about other places on the internet' is mega tedious. 💯 I've noticed this too. It's happened a few times.
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Post by lucaslawless on Aug 18, 2023 3:02:58 GMT -5
These "news" sites that operate on Facebook/Twitter are absolute trash The fact that Danielson only has a broken arm means he without a doubt could be there in some capacity.. Even if its a 5 minute bit to finish the match. There is nothing saying Hayter couldnt show up for a face to face in the ring with Saraya either. All of it is done on assumption. "NO THAT PERSUN IZ INJURD" So? wrestlers heal, wrestlers get cleared without us knowing, thats how surprise returns work. - and if it doesnt happen, nobody cares because they're still injured.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 18, 2023 3:16:50 GMT -5
*wakes up* Welp, this is clearly an alternate universe, I'm going back to sleep and I'll be back in mine tomorrow.
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Post by clifford on Aug 18, 2023 3:58:48 GMT -5
I think Trevor Dame (wrestling writer and Th-ROH the Years podcast host) summed up my feelings best when he tweeted that 'at the end of the day, it's going to be a special show because it's held in a sold-out Wembley Stadium, rather than a show that sold out Wembley Stadium because it's special'. If that makes sense to you, cause it does to me.
The crowd, the spectacle, the atmosphere will make this a special show. The card and its build is good, not great (in my opinion please don't kill me) but 80k people are going to make every match feel special. I'm not saying that the in ring stuff will be crap that needs to be elevated by the crowd by the way, just that as soon as the show starts, nothing that came before it is really going to matter
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