do you care about the amount of days as champ & records?

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

happy easter to y'all

this question is omitting the streak because of course most of us were shocked/cared about that to some extent

i really don't get the obsession with the amount of days as champion now, even when you factor in big moments lately

didn't care that sami/ko beat the usos because of the amount of days the usos were champs. i cared cause sami/ko would be fun champions and i thought the bloodline would start to crumble the next night...

same with gunther and roman. i don't give a shit if either of those dudes beat a record even if i like them, no heel should have the titles locked in their storyline for so long and i don't think about the amount of days with gunther, only the amount of awesome matches

i really do not get the obsession with the amount of days as champ. i don't think fans give a shit at all but maybe i'm wrong

[asuka007]

I kind of care about Gunther just because it’s an actual record that has stood for a long time. And he’s the best guy to break it.

The rest, nah.

[DichEvans]

It just seems the company went from on extreme where all the titles felt meaningless with how often they changed hands, versus these year long title reigns where you know 90% of title defenses mean nothing because you know they are not going to throw away a year+ title run on a B PPV or TV show.

Both Bianca and the Usos had a year+ run, and I can't think of more than 1-2 matches/feuds they had that were particularly notable.

[XIII]

Roman, Gunther, Usos, and Bianca were all around a year or more and are still mostly ongoing. May as well add Theory to that because he’s not going to lose any time soon either.

It’s too much..


but yes, I would download a car

[Bo Rida]

Apr 9, 2023 14:45:14 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

I kind of care about Gunther just because it’s an actual record that has stood for a long time. And he’s the best guy to break it.

The rest, nah.

Mostly it's what happens during the reign that matters more than the number of days it lasts.
If it's a good reign like that and a genuine record I care.

I care about other records to varying degrees, shame WWE mismanaged most of them. WWE not giving one shit about the rumble elimination record to the point I wasn't sure if Kane broke it really annoyed me.

[BlackoutCreature]

I mean, kinda. Longer title reigns can add drama and importance to title matches. But it needs to feel organic. Right now none of these lengthy title reigns in the WWE feel organic, they feel like they're only happening for the sake of having record breaking reigns, and they are long past any storytelling benefit.

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Apr 9, 2023 14:49:49 GMT -5 XIII said:

Roman, Gunther, Usos, and Bianca were all around a year or more and are still mostly ongoing. May as well add Theory to that because he’s not going to lose any time soon either.

It’s too much..


but yes, I would download a car

you and me both brother 

[darbus alan]

It can't feel too long or too short, but just right. A year reign can feel fine if booked well with interesting challengers, while even some shorter reigns can feel too long if the wrestler(s) don't interest me.

Like, I don't think I could've ever dealt with Bruno's near 8 year reign, but then the pro wrestling industry was a very different place back then.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

It’s kinda funny. For the longest time, WWE played hot potato with most of their belts. Now, folks just hold onto the title for ages and wind up killing their own division.

Because a middle ground just doesn’t exist in WWE, i guess

[Final Countdown Jones]

I think long reigns need shorter reigns to contrast against them, or else their length becomes this crushing, interminable exercise in meaninglessness. WWE doesn't often put together long reigns with enough going on in them to make them feel worthwhile, just like we're on the filler treadmill until the end. WWE has this long, incredible history and it feels like it's in an arms race against itself to try and write its current era into those books in a really sloppy way by just flooding in all these super long record-setters and huge reign days to mingle their current guys in to guys who came up in a different time where those runs were more reasonable.

If almost every belt you have is in some long-term record-threatening run then that's not good, fulfilling writing, that's the same hack trick being forced across every facet of your show.

[Eunös ✈]

I enjoy it.

Not every Title reign needs to be a record breaking one, that said I'm glad Titles aren't changing hands almost every week on Raw.

[Ryushinku]

I do, but consider it just as important the quality of the opponents and the matches had during that time.

Someone can be booked to hold a belt for 150 days, but if the matches are middling-to-poor and no-one is getting over, then I'm really not going to think much of it.

[coleslaw]

in honor of this thread I took a hollow chocolate bunny and filled it up with jelly beans

some are saying it's the longest reigning jelly bean filled chocolate bunny of all time

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Apr 9, 2023 15:40:03 GMT -5 coleslaw said:

in honor of this thread I took a hollow chocolate bunny and filled it up with jelly beans

some are saying it's the longest reigning jelly bean filled chocolate bunny of all time

i am so proud

[Gerard Gerard]

Apr 9, 2023 14:49:49 GMT -5 XIII said:

Roman, Gunther, Usos, and Bianca were all around a year or more and are still mostly ongoing. May as well add Theory to that because he’s not going to lose any time soon either.

It’s too much..


but yes, I would download a car

Pretty much, I get wanting title changes to mean something but they've gone a bit too all in with these year-long reigns.

[john84]

As a few others have posted, it's not so much the length of the reign but whether or not it's been a fun one or a good one that I'll look back on with some (or a lot) of fond memories that matter to me in terms of title reigns.

[Nr1Humanoid]

Depends on how creative a reign stays. Keep it short if you intend to have a story that stays consistently the same.

[Nosnorb]

Right now, this Roman reign feels like it has gone on for twice as long as it has, has no end in sight and is the wrestling equivalent of a boot stomping on the human face forever.

[Push R Truth]

I just want a good story. Sometimes a good story takes a while, sometimes it doesn't. A good story never takes 3+ years of PPV's and 2 TV shows a week to tell. We call that bullshit "filler".

[KingPooper]

If I can remember who they beat for the title, who they lost it to, and a few of the defenses, that's more important than how long it is.