agent817
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Post by agent817 on Apr 24, 2023 23:08:28 GMT -5
After watching the "Creed" movies recently, I got to thinking about this. I had been telling myself to watch the Rocky movies lately, but at the same time I want to binge on the Rambo movies. However, regarding Rambo, I will stop at the fourth film because I was not a big fan of "Rambo: Last Blood." The funny thing about this is that a lot of people say that "Rocky V" was terrible but I remember thinking it was fine when I first watched it. Granted, I was only 18 and it was shown on a local channel on a Saturday. I can see the problems with the film, but there were some highlights. For example, that Mickey flashback scene. I also wonder about the director's cut of "Rocky IV" to see how different it is from the theatrical cut.
Anyway, on the subject, I know that the Rambo films were considered some iconic action films of the 1980s, but it's weird seeing "Rambo: First Blood II" and "Rambo III" after "First Blood" considering how different the first film was to the sequels and that includes "Rambo" (2008). Regarding "Last Blood," I feel that the script was for something else and someone decided to make it a "Rambo" film for reasons.
However, Rocky managed to span a few decades as the first two were in the 1970s, 3 and 4 were in the 1980s, and 5 was in the 1990s (although I am sure that it was shot in 1989, but still), and "Rocky Balboa" came out in the mid-2000s. Then you had the "Creed" films in the 2010s. Granted, they were spin-offs, but they are still part of the franchise.
So what do you think?
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 24, 2023 23:43:10 GMT -5
Rocky got him Academy Award consideration. Not just on the original film, but in Creed, too. Meanwhile the efforts to bring Rambo into the 21st Century have been a lot less successful, both critically and commercially.
It's easily Rocky.
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Post by ace on Apr 24, 2023 23:49:07 GMT -5
I’m offended by this question. It’s Rocky by so much
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 25, 2023 0:02:47 GMT -5
It's Rocky, and it's not even close.
First Blood is still his best movie, though.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 25, 2023 0:06:25 GMT -5
Rambo is iconic, too, but it's definitely Rocky as more iconic, to the extent of him having a statue, among other reasons.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 25, 2023 3:14:29 GMT -5
Other: Deke DiSilva from Nighthawks.
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Post by Schizo on Apr 25, 2023 4:26:13 GMT -5
Let’s ask CM Punk
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Post by msc on Apr 25, 2023 4:40:32 GMT -5
Rocky easily.
(Also, the opening montage to Rocky III might be one of the best edited intros to any blockbuster ever.)
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 25, 2023 5:09:42 GMT -5
Rocky.
For the most part I prefer the Rambo movies. But Rocky beats any Rambo in quality. And after a Dork Age the Rocky movies went back up in quality while Rambo limped to a pathetic (hopeful) ending.
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Post by Joker on Apr 25, 2023 8:26:20 GMT -5
John Spartan, where's my Demolition Man 2?
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 25, 2023 14:46:56 GMT -5
Where's Judge Dredd? (I'm kidding, but I do unironically like that movie,Dredd is better though)
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Post by fw91 on Apr 25, 2023 15:44:17 GMT -5
It’s obviously The Toymaker in Spy Kids 3D
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Post by Gremlin on Apr 25, 2023 16:42:55 GMT -5
More iconic? Rocky. My favorite? Rambo.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Apr 26, 2023 2:18:17 GMT -5
This is weird. I had no idea Frank Stallone's brother was an actor too.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 26, 2023 4:45:06 GMT -5
Rambo. Never were much of a Rocky fanboy.
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Post by tafkaga on Apr 26, 2023 9:34:45 GMT -5
Stallone is a much better actor playing vulnerable characters like Rocky, imo. Unfortunately, I feel like he's better known for his stoic, tough guy roles, where his acting is passable at best. I'll take any of Arnold's glib, badass portrayals over Rambo.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 26, 2023 11:08:50 GMT -5
Over The Top Guy
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Post by dirtyoldman on Apr 26, 2023 11:16:42 GMT -5
I prefer Rambo, but i'll accept Rocky is more iconic.
If they just let him have his f***ing steak...
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 26, 2023 11:34:16 GMT -5
Rocky and it’s not even close.I am partial to both Demolition Man and the so-of-the-times-that-it-hurts Tango and Cash (it legitimately was the last film, alongside Spielberg’s Always, to be released by Hollywood in the 80’s).
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 28, 2023 19:19:07 GMT -5
First Blood is easily one of his best movies, but it's an example of a movie that never needed to be a franchise. If Stallone had a vision of where he wanted to take that character, he could have easily created a new character, he had the box office appeal for it, and he wouldn't have to likely pay royalties to the author for the character.
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