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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 26, 2023 13:07:50 GMT -5
Also the World title may or may not be the WCW title and Dolph Ziggler may or may not be a former WWE Champion depending on their mood that day. I went to Wikipedia to see what the "official" lineage was and I shit you not this is actually on the page for World Heavyweight Championship  And that's not even accounting for the fact you can also trace the Impact and the more famous incarnation of the ECW title from the NWA one. |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 26, 2023 16:11:48 GMT -5
Hopefully with stuff like this, they continue to recognize their original history and display it proudly: linkI think HHH has too much respect for the business to just throw away their most important championship. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 26, 2023 16:42:30 GMT -5
The way I look at it... The WWE Championship begins with Buddy Rogers in 1963 and anyone who held it whether it be through WWWF, WWF, or Undisputed Championship. Bruno held it, Backlund held it, Hogan held it, Bret, Austin, Jericho, JBL, Eddie, Cena, Edge, RVD, and even through Jinder, AJ, Brock, Drew, etc. I still find it hard to believe that Jinder sits alongside those names. Almost worth having three world titles if it prevents the equivalent happening again. Almost. |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Apr 26, 2023 16:55:40 GMT -5
The way I look at it... The WWE Championship begins with Buddy Rogers in 1963 and anyone who held it whether it be through WWWF, WWF, or Undisputed Championship. Bruno held it, Backlund held it, Hogan held it, Bret, Austin, Jericho, JBL, Eddie, Cena, Edge, RVD, and even through Jinder, AJ, Brock, Drew, etc. I still find it hard to believe that Jinder sits alongside those names. Almost worth having three world titles if it prevents the equivalent happening again. Almost. Semi-convinced this why the WWE title was booked as the B title in recent years, even they realized the Jinderness leaves a stink that can only devalue a title. |
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 26, 2023 17:11:24 GMT -5
Hopefully with stuff like this, they continue to recognize their original history and display it proudly: linkI think HHH has too much respect for the business to just throw away their most important championship. I’d agree with that and also even though is nuttier than squirrel shit, he has shown that people and things that link to his father, he is oddly sentimental about. He kept on his fathers inner circle well beyond their usefulness to him after the expansion, and paid them. So I can see the universal title going away at some point, because I don’t see how they throw 60 years of history away. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 26, 2023 19:17:31 GMT -5
Hopefully with stuff like this, they continue to recognize their original history and display it proudly: linkI think HHH has too much respect for the business to just throw away their most important championship. I’d agree with that and also even though is nuttier than squirrel shit, he has shown that people and things that link to his father, he is oddly sentimental about. He kept on his fathers inner circle well beyond their usefulness to him after the expansion, and paid them. So I can see the universal title going away at some point, because I don’t see how they throw 60 years of history away. I mean, they did it with the 40 years of the tag titles, even with the alternative being a belt that started with Benoit. |
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Post by papagiorgio on Apr 26, 2023 20:25:12 GMT -5
It still pains me what they did with the WWF Tag Team Championship, so I wouldn't put anything past them.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Apr 27, 2023 6:36:29 GMT -5
Yeah I forgot about the original WWE tag title history. My hope of them not retiring the actual WWE title when this is all said and done isn't too high now.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 27, 2023 6:46:18 GMT -5
Eventually Roman's title reign will go so far that the belt will officially become the Multi-Verse Championship. This is how they will market Roman's match with the Rock. Reigns will be wrestling Black Adam. Nah, Roman's actually made the WWE money and been a draw. |
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 27, 2023 10:27:31 GMT -5
Also the World title may or may not be the WCW title and Dolph Ziggler may or may not be a former WWE Champion depending on their mood that day. I went to Wikipedia to see what the "official" lineage was and I shit you not this is actually on the page for World Heavyweight Championship That's actually incomplete it starts with: 1)Original World Heavy-Weight Championship 2)NWA World Heavyweight Championship Then the following that spun off the NWA -AWA World Heavyweight Championship -WWF/E World Heavyweight Championship -WCW World Heavyweight Championship -WCW International World Championship -ECW World Heavyweight Championship -TNA/Impact/GFW World/Global Championship Now the following happened -AWA is Dead -The WCW & WCW Int'l were Unified -Then the WWF & WCW Titles were Unified to create the Undisputed WWF Championship -Brock becomes Smackdown exclusive, the World Title is introduced and we all know how that went -ECW Title came back & died -Universal Championship introduced and now here we are. |
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 27, 2023 12:41:58 GMT -5
The moment the company retires the WWE title that's been in play since 1963, any illusion that WWE's sports-entertainment offerings have any meaning disappears as well. The belt (whichever one it goes with) will be truly and only a prop.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 3, 2023 6:59:51 GMT -5
So.....has the Lineage come to an end with this new Title?
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 3, 2023 7:11:02 GMT -5
So.....has the Lineage come to an end with this new Title? No, it’s still going. To say otherwise is negativity bias. |
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 3, 2023 7:20:07 GMT -5
Double podyy
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 3, 2023 7:21:52 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is the reason I haven't watched for about 8 years. I couldn't stand the guy when they were building him up and just thought "f*** it, I can't be arsed watching a product which for the next decade or so is going to be centered around a guy I find absolutely boring" Just curious, what eras did you watch? Cuz I found several long stretches in WWE way more boring and forced than this one. HBKs push being the biggest example. God that sucked. But there was the face HHH era of SmackDown, the Punk heel title reign, parts of the Reign of terror. Just curious why you think this is the worst. |
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 3, 2023 7:28:32 GMT -5
I went to Wikipedia to see what the "official" lineage was and I shit you not this is actually on the page for World Heavyweight Championship That's actually incomplete it starts with: 1)Original World Heavy-Weight Championship 2)NWA World Heavyweight Championship Then the following that spun off the NWA -AWA World Heavyweight Championship -WWF/E World Heavyweight Championship -WCW World Heavyweight Championship -WCW International World Championship -ECW World Heavyweight Championship -TNA/Impact/GFW World/Global Championship Now the following happened -AWA is Dead -The WCW & WCW Int'l were Unified -Then the WWF & WCW Titles were Unified to create the Undisputed WWF Championship -Brock becomes Smackdown exclusive, the World Title is introduced and we all know how that went -ECW Title came back & died -Universal Championship introduced and now here we are. Not to mention the several world titles that were unified with the NWA title, such as: National Wrestling Association WWA Big Time Wrestling |
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 3, 2023 11:38:55 GMT -5
WWE still lists them as independently active titles, so the unification is more in the sense of how boxing handles title unifications: They're still held together and are defended together, but each retains its own lineage and in certain circumstances can be lost/stripped separately.
Now the fact that they're two lineages represented by one belt is problematic but I'm not getting into that.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 4, 2023 23:47:57 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is the reason I haven't watched for about 8 years. I couldn't stand the guy when they were building him up and just thought "f*** it, I can't be arsed watching a product which for the next decade or so is going to be centered around a guy I find absolutely boring" Just curious, what eras did you watch? Cuz I found several long stretches in WWE way more boring and forced than this one. HBKs push being the biggest example. God that sucked. But there was the face HHH era of SmackDown, the Punk heel title reign, parts of the Reign of terror. Just curious why you think this is the worst. Because Roman has been boring and overpushed from the get-go. It was clear from the very beginning, the WWE wanted him to be the star and just kept cramming him down our throats. He was the most boring part of the SHIELD, he was boring during his single's career face run and when he was feuding with Sheamus and the like and constantly going over people more talented than he was--so I had zero interest in watching the WWE when he became the face of the company. |
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jun 5, 2023 2:23:06 GMT -5
With WWE not officially ending the original WWE title with the new belt (according to their very own site) one can assume the WWE title will be in limbo until someone finally beats Roman and retires the universal portion of it.
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 5, 2023 2:40:57 GMT -5
Just curious, what eras did you watch? Cuz I found several long stretches in WWE way more boring and forced than this one. HBKs push being the biggest example. God that sucked. But there was the face HHH era of SmackDown, the Punk heel title reign, parts of the Reign of terror. Just curious why you think this is the worst. Because Roman has been boring and overpushed from the get-go. It was clear from the very beginning, the WWE wanted him to be the star and just kept cramming him down our throats. He was the most boring part of the SHIELD, he was boring during his single's career face run and when he was feuding with Sheamus and the like and constantly going over people more talented than he was--so I had zero interest in watching the WWE when he became the face of the company. I can respect that I guess. I felt the exact same way about HBK. |
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