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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 12, 2023 7:41:29 GMT -5
Just got the e dip overnight. We are still going.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 12, 2023 9:35:49 GMT -5
Looks like we're once again in the position of realizing that either streaming is massively profitable and the streamers don't want people to know exactly how much it's making, or it's the more likely scenario of streaming being built upon a house of cards that is going to collapse as soon as it gets any real scrutiny. Actors (and writers) should not be responsible for the piss poor decisions of the studios.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 12, 2023 9:47:42 GMT -5
Looks like we're once again in the position of realizing that either streaming is massively profitable and the streamers don't want people to know exactly how much it's making, or it's the more likely scenario of streaming being built upon a house of cards that is going to collapse as soon as it gets any real scrutiny. Actors (and writers) should not be responsible for the piss poor decisions of the studios. Basically, yeah. And the fact they’re just repeating the same tactics that failed the last time, Jennifer Lee said earlier that animation projects would be affected if the strike doesn’t end, just feels like this last grasp on finding out a potential answer to that and it’s wild. Because, like you said, they weren’t the ones who decided to pivot to streaming in the first place and hurt cinema and DVD revenues. And if that is going to be the long term plan pivot in certain ways, the people most involved should get compensated for it. Just like if something is shown on TV, someone goes to see a film in the cinema or buys a DVD. The rest of what you said where it could lean is entirely not their problem.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 12, 2023 12:11:05 GMT -5
Well, I don't know, man, all of this looks natural and seamless. Nothing freaky and disturbing about any of that at all.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 12, 2023 13:11:19 GMT -5
“The Actors are asking for payment from you, the Netflix subscribers!” says man paid almost $200m in the past 5 years.
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Post by chrom on Oct 12, 2023 13:42:02 GMT -5
Well, I don't know, man, all of this looks natural and seamless. Nothing freaky and disturbing about any of that at all.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 12, 2023 13:43:36 GMT -5
“The Actors are asking for payment from you, the Netflix subscribers!” says man paid almost $200m in the past 5 years. Says man who will raise subscriber rates no matter the outcome of the strike.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Oct 12, 2023 14:52:08 GMT -5
Well, I don't know, man, all of this looks natural and seamless. Nothing freaky and disturbing about any of that at all. Lordy I can literally make that in the Sims in under three minuets.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 13, 2023 15:44:05 GMT -5
That's a mindboggling amount of unity in that statement.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 13, 2023 15:47:16 GMT -5
That's a mindboggling amount of unity in that statement. So much for the "Below the line labor is splitting!" narrative the studios and their bootlickers are trying to spin.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 13, 2023 18:48:29 GMT -5
I appreciate the sentiment but it would’ve meant more if the DGA would’ve stayed united during negotiations instead of copping a deal so quickly
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 13, 2023 18:57:59 GMT -5
I appreciate the sentiment but it would’ve meant more if the DGA would’ve stayed united during negotiations instead of copping a deal so quickly I do have a feeling some of the more vocal members that voted against it (your Duncan Joneses, your Scott Derrickmans etc) probably said they needed to be a part of the statement as a way of at least showing there was some kind of front. I do agree generally with what you’re saying, though.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 16, 2023 14:44:18 GMT -5
With NYCC this past weekend and the strike ongoing due to the studios not going back to the table, it’d be a bad look if anyone, say, was a part of a panel and basically broke SAG guidelines for no actual good reason. Maybe for a Nickelodeon Peacock exclusive not with an interim agreement? That’d be sill-
Goddamnit!
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Post by horsemen4ever on Oct 16, 2023 16:41:55 GMT -5
With NYCC this past weekend and the strike ongoing due to the studios not going back to the table, it’d be a bad look if anyone, say, was a part of a panel and basically broke SAG guidelines for no actual good reason. Maybe for a Nickelodeon Peacock exclusive not with an interim agreement? That’d be sill- God damnit!Yeah doing something nice for the fans who pay outrage prices for merchandise and food, how dare they. My take for the beginning, if this effects the cons that screwing the fans more than the studios. So good that someone actual used some common sense and put the fans first. And one of those people in Kenan Thompson, I find it more offense that him and the SNL cast did not put their foot down and told Lorne and NBC no than appearing at a con. I don't care about the loopholes, SNL should be off the air till this is settled. And BTW, it is Paramount + not Peacock.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 16, 2023 16:47:42 GMT -5
With NYCC this past weekend and the strike ongoing due to the studios not going back to the table, it’d be a bad look if anyone, say, was a part of a panel and basically broke SAG guidelines for no actual good reason. Maybe for a Nickelodeon Peacock exclusive not with an interim agreement? That’d be sill- God damnit!Yeah doing something nice for the fans who pay outrage prices for merchandise and food, how dare they. My take for the beginning, if this effects the cons that screwing the fans more than the studios. So good that some actual put some common sense and put the fans first. And BTW, it is Paramount + not Peacock. I’ll accept I’m wrong on the last bit. But the literal point of the strike is to affect this stuff and show the studios that they need them to promote projects. If people are going and promoting stuff not agreed to by the union, the studios might as well stay not going back to the table. Why would they? The promotion is already happening. There’s no need to agree a new deal at all so people, not just actors but production crew and everyone not a writer, won’t need to go back to work or get paid. EDIT: Also to add, people who are on strike related projects can go to conventions and do panels, just not about strike related work. So why do a panel about a strike affected work?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Oct 16, 2023 16:51:40 GMT -5
Yeah doing something nice for the fans who pay outrage prices for merchandise and food, how dare they. My take for the beginning, if this effects the cons that screwing the fans more than the studios. So good that some actual put some common sense and put the fans first. And BTW, it is Paramount + not Peacock. I’ll accept I’m wrong on the last bit. But the literal point of the strike is to affect this stuff and show the studios that they need them to promote projects. If people are going and promoting stuff not agreed to by the union, the studios might as well stay not going back to the table. Why would they? The promotion is already happening. There’s no need to agree a new deal at all so people, not just actors but production crew and everyone not a writer, won’t need to go back to work or get paid. Well I am sorry I have to say I disagree, I think cons are different than going on talk shows. As someone that attends NYCC every year, I know all about the sacrifices people make to go to these cons. And it is freaking Good Burger 2, who cares?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 16, 2023 17:11:34 GMT -5
Well I am sorry I have to say I disagree, I think cons are different than going on talk shows. As someone that attends NYCC every year, I know all about the sacrifices people make to go to these cons. What we think doesn’t matter. This strike has guidelines, it’s clear how the Con ones work (you can show up and do panels, just not talk about any strike affected projects) so if the cast of many Star Trek shows can do it, why not the cast of Good Burger 2? And so what if it’s Good Burger 2? If one set of people do it and get away with it, other people will see it’s fine and promote their stuff at a convention and again, the studios will still not go back to the negotiation table because why would they? They’re not holding up to their own guidelines, clearly there’s division and we can wait for them to break for a shitty deal. And until then many, many other people not actors won’t be able to work and writer’s tables might as well be writing for stuff not happening until 2064.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 16, 2023 17:12:31 GMT -5
David Tennant did a panel at NYCC. Talked about his stage work and various things. When he was asked about Doctor Who he simply answered "I'm on strike" and the panel continued. Everyone got their photos and signatures from him. He still did his panel. And he adhered to the strike.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 16, 2023 17:14:15 GMT -5
David Tennant did a panel at NYCC. Talked about his stage work and various things. When he was asked about Doctor Who he simply answered "I'm on strike" and the panel continued. Everyone got their photos and signatures from him. He still did his panel. And he adhered to the strike. Exactly. If David Tennant, who is not even on a strike affected project in Doctor Who, can do it, why can’t people on actual strike affected projects do it? EDIT: Also to add, Chris Evans did a panel and talked about his wife. If he can do it, why not Kenan and Kel?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Oct 16, 2023 18:57:39 GMT -5
David Tennant did a panel at NYCC. Talked about his stage work and various things. When he was asked about Doctor Who he simply answered "I'm on strike" and the panel continued. Everyone got their photos and signatures from him. He still did his panel. And he adhered to the strike. Exactly. If David Tennant, who is not even on a strike affected project in Doctor Who, can do it, why can’t people on actual strike affected projects do it? EDIT: Also to add, Chris Evans did a panel and talked about his wife. If he can do it, why not Kenan and Kel? Well if ignored Good Burger 2 and talk about the Kenan and Kel show instead I approve, never a big fan of Good Burger, I think the Kenan and Kel show is way better.
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