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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 10, 2023 0:04:55 GMT -5
So, let's have a discussion on worst contracts signed in sports whether past or present on people that you can't even really defend their contract (not to say they didn't earn it but the duration they signed it for was trash)
The obvious one is Bobby Bonilla so let's leave that behind
I'll start with John Wall. He signed his supermax contract in 2017 for it to start in 2019. Ruptured his achilles in 2018 falling in his home from a season ending heel injury. Only plays 40 games over the length of his supermax contract while sitting out the whole season of 2021-2022 due to Rockets not wanting him to play. That contract literally had no value
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Post by XIII on May 10, 2023 6:42:18 GMT -5
Albert Haynesworth signed a 7 year $100M contract with Washington. In his first year he had an okay but unspectacular year and then he came back the next preseason way overweight and failed a basic fitness test. Played a handful of games in a 3-4 which he had never played in before and that was it. Got traded to the Patriots for a 5th rounder and then they cut his ass too. lol
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Post by Push R Truth on May 10, 2023 7:56:27 GMT -5
Zion Williamson is currently in that "might be" stage and we'll know the answer within a year or two.
If we count Pro Wrestling, Hogan's WCW Contract was all but guarantied to chop off the knees of the company. HIs creative clause was too strong. And didn't he get like 25% of all gross ticket sales and 15% of PPV revenue if he wrestled? I mean, when that much comes off the top for 1 dude there's not much left for hundreds of people that made every show work.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 10, 2023 16:39:46 GMT -5
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Post by fw91 on May 10, 2023 21:34:22 GMT -5
Rick DiPietro
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Post by sfvega on May 10, 2023 21:49:09 GMT -5
In 2016, the Tigers extended Miguel Cabrera. He rewarded them with a year where he was again an All-Star, a Silver Slugger, finished 9th in the AL MVP voting. Since then, he's hit 61 total home runs. He's hit .261 with a .327 OBP. His knees are as shot as Pujols' were. In total, for that one All-Star year, and a bunch of league-average to well below league-average ball he will end up getting paid close to $250 million. In that time, Tommy Pham could have given you 13 more WAR and for roughly $217 mil less.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 10, 2023 21:55:03 GMT -5
In 2016, the Tigers extended Miguel Cabrera. He rewarded them with a year where he was again an All-Star, a Silver Slugger, finished 9th in the AL MVP voting. Since then, he's hit 61 total home runs. He's hit .261 with a .327 OBP. His knees are as shot as Pujols' were. In total, for that one All-Star year, and a bunch of league-average to well below league-average ball he will end up getting paid close to $250 million. In that time, Tommy Pham could have given you 13 more WAR and for roughly $217 mil less. Miggy fell off hard. Once the injuries hit, it zapped his power To think someone who finished with 3000 hits and 500 homeruns could probably had crazier stats if he was healthy
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Post by jm on May 10, 2023 22:28:33 GMT -5
The Angels under Arte Moreno have had some doozies. Gary Matthews Jr. Vernon Wells Josh Hamilton Anthony Rendon
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Post by mc74 on May 10, 2023 22:39:04 GMT -5
Bobby Bonilla one was silly, but on the plus side, the buyout did give the Mets room to trade for Mike Hampton. He proved to be a valuable piece for the Mets in 2000, and although he left afterwards, the compensation pick that the Mets received for him turned out to be none other than David Wright.
I would argue the Rick DiPietro contract was worse. At least there were some positives that came out of the Bonilla buyout. Can't say the same for DiPietro.
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Post by sfvega on May 10, 2023 22:43:46 GMT -5
In 2016, the Tigers extended Miguel Cabrera. He rewarded them with a year where he was again an All-Star, a Silver Slugger, finished 9th in the AL MVP voting. Since then, he's hit 61 total home runs. He's hit .261 with a .327 OBP. His knees are as shot as Pujols' were. In total, for that one All-Star year, and a bunch of league-average to well below league-average ball he will end up getting paid close to $250 million. In that time, Tommy Pham could have given you 13 more WAR and for roughly $217 mil less. Miggy fell off hard. Once the injuries hit, it zapped his power To think someone who finished with 3000 hits and 500 homeruns could probably had crazier stats if he was healthy Which is one of the many risks of signing a guy going into his age 33 season to a mega rich deal. But yeah, Miggy was someone who was supposed to be up there with Pujols in terms of numbers, if not a little better.
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Post by RI Richmark on May 10, 2023 22:50:40 GMT -5
While I wouldn't say it's the worst but it definitely lead to a most unusual situation so let me tell you about Rusney Castillo, Prisoner of Pawtucket.
In 2014, Castillo was an up and coming outfielder for the Cuban National team before defecting to the Dominican Republic. On August 23rd of that year the Red Sox signed him to a 7 year, $72.5 million contract. It's believed the big deal was due to the Sox's frustration upon failing to sign Jose Abreu a year earlier and were determined to land the next Cuban defector no matter what. The problem was that Castillo was much more of a project and probably should have spent a year in the minors before being called up but the Sox called him up on September 17th of that year.
Over parts of the next 3 seasons Castillo appeared in 99 games batting .262 with 7 homers and 35 RBI. In 2016 the Sox put Castillo on waivers. Nobody claimed him and he outrighted to Triple A Pawtucket. This meant even though the Sox had to still pay his salary it didn't count against the Sox's luxury tax.
While in the minors Castillo's play began to improve. He even was an International League All-Star in 2018 and won the League's batting title that year. And while the Red Sox outfield was already stacked you'd think that he play would warrant another look.
But his contract became a huge issue. If the Sox called him back up his contract would suddenly count against their luxury tax. The Sox were already way over the tax and weren't keen on adding more cost just to bring a a player who would just be a 4th outfielder at best. And they couldn't trade him either. No team would take his contract without the Sox agreeing to pay a huge portion. And if the other team called Rusney up that portion would be added to the tax.
Over his 5 seasons with the PawSox Rusney batted .292 with 42 homers and 217 RBI. But it didn't matter how well he did. He would go to Spring Training every year knowing he would never make it back to Boston, stuck in Pawtucket like some sort of baseball purgatory. He kept a home in Boston even though that meant driving an hour to Pawtucket for every game out of the hope that the Sox would find room for him.
His time finally came to an end after 2020. Since then he's bounced around Japan, Mexico and the Independent leagues. You really had to feel for the guy. At least he was well compensated.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 10, 2023 22:52:58 GMT -5
Miggy fell off hard. Once the injuries hit, it zapped his power To think someone who finished with 3000 hits and 500 homeruns could probably had crazier stats if he was healthy Which is one of the many risks of signing a guy going into his age 33 season to a mega rich deal. But yeah, Miggy was someone who was supposed to be up there with Pujols in terms of numbers, if not a little better. My assumption like I assume theirs was, was that you expect him to be slowed down by like Age 37 but he'd at least still be able to bring average without the fearsome power. The injuries def zapped him of the ability to still perform but overall he's a easy lock for the HOF as Miggy as his best was an animal Long term contracts rarely work in the MLB, you just hope they aren't full blown disasters. If you sign a 33 year old to a 7 year deal you at least want 3 great years before knowing at very least age 38 and 39 is a complete wash
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Post by sfvega on May 10, 2023 22:56:49 GMT -5
Which is one of the many risks of signing a guy going into his age 33 season to a mega rich deal. But yeah, Miggy was someone who was supposed to be up there with Pujols in terms of numbers, if not a little better. My assumption like I assume theirs was, was that you expect him to be slowed down by like Age 37 but he'd at least still be able to bring average without the fearsome power. The injuries def zapped him of the ability to still perform but overall he's a easy lock for the HOF as Miggy as his best was an animal Long term contracts rarely work in the MLB, you just hope they aren't full blown disasters. If you sign a 33 year old to a 7 year deal you at least want 3 great years before knowing at very least age 38 and 39 is a complete wash Yeah, meanwhile Nelson Cruz kept signing for reasonable deals and being productive til he was like 40.
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Post by mc74 on May 10, 2023 22:57:08 GMT -5
Not the only bad contract the Islanders inked either. Mike Milbury signed Alexei Yashin a 10-year $87.5M contract back in 2001, and would end up being bought out in 2007.
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Post by Cyno on May 10, 2023 22:58:12 GMT -5
Probably biased, but Jacoby Ellsbury to the Yankees.
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Post by 6pathsoftommy on May 11, 2023 1:26:15 GMT -5
Stephen Strasburg. Had a great World Series and signed that huge contract in the 2020 off-season and has only pitched less than 40 innings combined in the last three seasons.
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Post by Heart of fools gold on May 11, 2023 19:09:13 GMT -5
Brock Osweiler got 4 years 72 mil from Houston which even at the time was a massive over pay for a QB who had a career record of 5-2 with 10 TDs and 6 Ints. Then after one disappointing season was traded to the Browns along with a 2nd and 6th round pick for a 4th round pick in an NBA style salary dump trade.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 11, 2023 21:41:35 GMT -5
It’s this. Expecting to get 15 years out of any goalie is f***ing insane. Even the very, very, very best get like 5. 10 is highly unusual.
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Post by MrElijah on May 13, 2023 11:44:50 GMT -5
Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill. They were supposed to be the future of the NBA and set the Suns & Magic back a few years
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 13, 2023 11:55:09 GMT -5
Has to be bad to beat Winston Bogarde, even on a free, signed on top wages for 4 years, playing 9 games total, refusing to take a pay cut to leave, justifiably so then retiring.
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