Dynamite Viewership for May 24th

[Lizuka #BLM]

Not having seen this week’s Dynamite or even cared enough to look up results I dunno if I’d turn the show off for a Roddy / Garcia main event but I’d sure as hell stop paying attention to it. Dudes have the combined presence of a stale Funyun.

[deezy]

May 26, 2023 4:59:00 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

May 26, 2023 4:13:10 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Roddy's been over with crowds, his Jericho match drew, and Garcia's been over as a heel since he stayed heel, and his character has only gotten to grow more because of it

So don't really agree here, and as I've said before, blaming the wrestlers for a ratings drop never sits right with me. Vaderpump started at about 9, it coincides with the drop. Either way it's hard to blame a wrestler or a singular thing for drops, even if it's easy when you don't like the wrestler, I guess. But Roddy's been doing just fine, and some guys should probably win matches out the gate instead of losing a ton on TV, and like it or not Roddy's a very reliable, and still very good wrestler, and these wins help him and help others when he loses, so idk, doesn't bother me and it also doesn't to me highlight a "booking weakness" or "Someone else should be getting this" when the whole feud is Cole and Rddy vs JAS, and the matches highlight that. They're old friends, it probably should be happening that way.

All this to say Roddy is not a ratings poison and Garcia isn't dead, not by a long shot lol

In the space of two sentences there you say Roddy's match with Jericho drew, but then blaming wrestlers for a drop doesn't sit right with you.

I find it hard to square the logic that you can credit a wrestler for a ratings spike, but it's unfair to even suggest that a drop might have had something to do with them. Surely it's all fair game or it isn't?

This has always been my mindset. If you're not going to give blame to anyone when ratings decline, Then you shouldn't give credit to anyone when ratings rise again.

[Gerard Gerard]

May 26, 2023 5:39:43 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Not having seen this week’s Dynamite or even cared enough to look up resultants I dunno if I’d turn the show off for a Roddy / Garcia main event but I’d sure as hell stop paying attention to it. Dudes have the combined presence of a stale Funyun.

Speaking as a dude that likes stale Funyun, how dare you.

[markymark]

May 26, 2023 0:40:57 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Are people really saying that once Vanderpump ends then Dynamite ratings will go up? Is there really a huge number of people who watch a spin-off reality show about some Real Housewives woman who will now go “ah well, better get back to watching wrestling.”

If anything the female demo will be up because thats Vanderpump main demographic.

[polarbearpete]

May 26, 2023 0:42:13 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

I don't know or care about ratings but how would Vanderpump Rules affect the Dynamite rating since it's unlikely to be the same people watching?

Might be some minimal crossover, but could be the same household with one TV, where usually the wife would be willing to watch Vanderpump on DVR (or not at all) but now needs to see it live.

[polarbearpete]

May 26, 2023 5:39:43 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Not having seen this week’s Dynamite or even cared enough to look up results I dunno if I’d turn the show off for a Roddy / Garcia main event but I’d sure as hell stop paying attention to it. Dudes have the combined presence of a stale Funyun.

Yeah that ratings drop is much sharper than usual.

[polarbearpete]

May 26, 2023 4:59:00 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

May 26, 2023 4:13:10 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Roddy's been over with crowds, his Jericho match drew, and Garcia's been over as a heel since he stayed heel, and his character has only gotten to grow more because of it

So don't really agree here, and as I've said before, blaming the wrestlers for a ratings drop never sits right with me. Vaderpump started at about 9, it coincides with the drop. Either way it's hard to blame a wrestler or a singular thing for drops, even if it's easy when you don't like the wrestler, I guess. But Roddy's been doing just fine, and some guys should probably win matches out the gate instead of losing a ton on TV, and like it or not Roddy's a very reliable, and still very good wrestler, and these wins help him and help others when he loses, so idk, doesn't bother me and it also doesn't to me highlight a "booking weakness" or "Someone else should be getting this" when the whole feud is Cole and Rddy vs JAS, and the matches highlight that. They're old friends, it probably should be happening that way.

All this to say Roddy is not a ratings poison and Garcia isn't dead, not by a long shot lol

In the space of two sentences there you say Roddy's match with Jericho drew, but then blaming wrestlers for a drop doesn't sit right with you.

I find it hard to square the logic that you can credit a wrestler for a ratings spike, but it's unfair to even suggest that a drop might have had something to do with them. Surely it's all fair game or it isn't?

Things are either good for AEW or they’re good for AEW. Can’t you see the logic?

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

The Roddy/Garcia match felt like one of those matches in the RAW dead zone of like 9:45 to 10:15. It was a fine match, but I just had a hard time getting into it. The crowd there was alright but the thing they seemed most excited about was Garcia's dancing.

[pinja]

When you book a match like Strong vs. Garcia, you have to ask yourself what the appeal should be and then see what it will be. They belong to opposing factions, they'll fight each other again on ppv, they are cut from the same cloth. The only factor that could garner additional interest is the third one, but their cloth is way too subtle and bland without a long buildup. I don't think that match would ever be able to draw, but it'd be able to not bomb. Don't treat matches like dough in a bakery. Give it time to rise in the dark.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 26, 2023 8:30:13 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

May 26, 2023 4:59:00 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

In the space of two sentences there you say Roddy's match with Jericho drew, but then blaming wrestlers for a drop doesn't sit right with you.

I find it hard to square the logic that you can credit a wrestler for a ratings spike, but it's unfair to even suggest that a drop might have had something to do with them. Surely it's all fair game or it isn't?

Things are either good for AEW or they’re good for AEW. Can’t you see the logic?

Coming from someone who will bend over backwards to defend WWE related things (And there's nothing wrong with that, but it sure comes off hypocritical when you start doing this), maybe don't start knocking me for simply trying to see different reasonings for a ratings drop in comparison for ratings rises, which is something I've done for WWE Ratings too.

Ratings going up are usually due to interest of what the match is or who is on screen for the program, we've seen this plenty, but a lot of different times we've seen ratings drops because of commercial breaks or lulls in the programming, or even when other programming starts or other stuff starts happening. In that instance, it is not entirely on the wrestler or the matches at hand, which is why I said that, and I said it's why ratings are complicated and always have been, and I'm not the only one who has said that either

I think a specific drop one week is not enough to say "People don't give a shit about Roderick Strong", there's just as much possibility the show was always gonna get that drop, and another match could have been the recipient. Such as Taya vs Frost, and then there would have been a narrative about "Guess the fans don't care about the women or the TBS Title feuds", this is why I think drops have way more venom than a rise, especially directed at wrestlers.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 26, 2023 5:39:43 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Not having seen this week’s Dynamite or even cared enough to look up results I dunno if I’d turn the show off for a Roddy / Garcia main event but I’d sure as hell stop paying attention to it. Dudes have the combined presence of a stale Funyun.

They weren't the main event, Lucha Bros vs Claudio and Yuta for the ROH Tag Belts was, with an ending segment for Anarchy in the Arena

Roddy/Garcia happened in the 9:30 slot the slot a lot of people perceive as the death slot in the shows timeframe anyway.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 26, 2023 0:40:57 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Are people really saying that once Vanderpump ends then Dynamite ratings will go up? Is there really a huge number of people who watch a spin-off reality show about some Real Housewives woman who will now go “ah well, better get back to watching wrestling.”

The show is number one on cable, getting over 2 million viewers, and its 18-49 Demo is TRIPLE AEW's

I know some people are saying "Oh I'm sure there's minimal crossover", but I believe this show is taking a decent chunk out of AEW's overall number, it's not only getting big numbers overall but it's getting big numbers overall in the exact demo AEW wants to get most. If AEW's number doesn't go up at least decently when it ends, I'll honestly be surprised. The same shit happened with The Challenge, and AEW's number went up after it ended.

[raymondo316]

I don't understand why Vanderpump Rules 8-9pm rating is AEW level and then suddenly from 9-10 it skyrockets, literally 1.2 million more people suddenly start watching and a lot more young people.

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[polarbearpete]

May 26, 2023 16:05:41 GMT -5 raymondo316 said:

I don't understand why Vanderpump Rules 8-9pm rating is AEW level and then suddenly from 9-10 it skyrockets, literally 1.2 million more people suddenly start watching and a lot more young people.

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8-9 pm is the repeat of the prior week’s show.

[raymondo316]

May 26, 2023 16:07:08 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

May 26, 2023 16:05:41 GMT -5 raymondo316 said:

I don't understand why Vanderpump Rules 8-9pm rating is AEW level and then suddenly from 9-10 it skyrockets, literally 1.2 million more people suddenly start watching and a lot more young people.

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8-9 pm is the repeat of the prior week’s show.

Ahhhh that makes sense then.

I actually know nothing about the show and hadn't even heard of it till people started mentioning it on here all of a sudden.

[polarbearpete]

May 26, 2023 15:46:57 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 26, 2023 8:30:13 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Things are either good for AEW or they’re good for AEW. Can’t you see the logic?

Coming from someone who will bend over backwards to defend WWE related things (And there's nothing wrong with that, but it sure comes off hypocritical when you start doing this), maybe don't start knocking me for simply trying to see different reasonings for a ratings drop in comparison for ratings rises, which is something I've done for WWE Ratings too.

Ratings going up are usually due to interest of what the match is or who is on screen for the program, we've seen this plenty, but a lot of different times we've seen ratings drops because of commercial breaks or lulls in the programming, or even when other programming starts or other stuff starts happening. In that instance, it is not entirely on the wrestler or the matches at hand, which is why I said that, and I said it's why ratings are complicated and always have been, and I'm not the only one who has said that either

I think a specific drop one week is not enough to say "People don't give a shit about Roderick Strong", there's just as much possibility the show was always gonna get that drop, and another match could have been the recipient. Such as Taya vs Frost, and then there would have been a narrative about "Guess the fans don't care about the women or the TBS Title feuds", this is why I think drops have way more venom than a rise, especially directed at wrestlers.

If I post seemingly contradictory things in the same post, feel free to point out the faulty logic to me.

On topic, that drop is so precipitous it probably has something to do with the match being between Garcia and Strong (and perhaps a lack of wanting to stick around for the main event as well), though I’m sure the ad break in that quarter hour didn’t help.

[pinja]

For people still not knowing what Vanderpump Rules is and how it could appeal to wrestling fans:

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 26, 2023 16:15:26 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

May 26, 2023 15:46:57 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Coming from someone who will bend over backwards to defend WWE related things (And there's nothing wrong with that, but it sure comes off hypocritical when you start doing this), maybe don't start knocking me for simply trying to see different reasonings for a ratings drop in comparison for ratings rises, which is something I've done for WWE Ratings too.

Ratings going up are usually due to interest of what the match is or who is on screen for the program, we've seen this plenty, but a lot of different times we've seen ratings drops because of commercial breaks or lulls in the programming, or even when other programming starts or other stuff starts happening. In that instance, it is not entirely on the wrestler or the matches at hand, which is why I said that, and I said it's why ratings are complicated and always have been, and I'm not the only one who has said that either

I think a specific drop one week is not enough to say "People don't give a shit about Roderick Strong", there's just as much possibility the show was always gonna get that drop, and another match could have been the recipient. Such as Taya vs Frost, and then there would have been a narrative about "Guess the fans don't care about the women or the TBS Title feuds", this is why I think drops have way more venom than a rise, especially directed at wrestlers.

If I post seemingly contradictory things in the same post, feel free to point out the faulty logic to me.

On topic, that drop is so precipitous it probably has something to do with the match being between Garcia and Strong (and perhaps a lack of wanting to stick around for the main event as well), though I’m sure the ad break in that quarter hour didn’t help.

I literally explained to you my logic, and I don't find anything "Faulty" about it. But I'll leave it there.

And yes, the quarter hour commercials always hurt this timeslot, people labeled it the death slot for awhile, which is also why people hated the women's matches here when they were

[stoptheclocks]

May 26, 2023 15:46:57 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 26, 2023 8:30:13 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Things are either good for AEW or they’re good for AEW. Can’t you see the logic?

Coming from someone who will bend over backwards to defend WWE related things (And there's nothing wrong with that, but it sure comes off hypocritical when you start doing this), maybe don't start knocking me for simply trying to see different reasonings for a ratings drop in comparison for ratings rises, which is something I've done for WWE Ratings too.

Ratings going up are usually due to interest of what the match is or who is on screen for the program, we've seen this plenty, but a lot of different times we've seen ratings drops because of commercial breaks or lulls in the programming, or even when other programming starts or other stuff starts happening. In that instance, it is not entirely on the wrestler or the matches at hand, which is why I said that, and I said it's why ratings are complicated and always have been, and I'm not the only one who has said that either

I think a specific drop one week is not enough to say "People don't give a shit about Roderick Strong", there's just as much possibility the show was always gonna get that drop, and another match could have been the recipient. Such as Taya vs Frost, and then there would have been a narrative about "Guess the fans don't care about the women or the TBS Title feuds", this is why I think drops have way more venom than a rise, especially directed at wrestlers.

What is any of this based on? Who says that ratings rises are 'usually' due to the fact people are interested in what's on screen but drops have nothing to do with that? How does that make any kind of logical sense and how could anyone begin to measure it?

[travisbrooks]

They need Sandoval for All In lol