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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 0:11:33 GMT -5
In my mind, I am like damn Gallo got to be close to 38, he played when Larry Hughes was on the Knicks (who I just remembered actually did spend a season there) They had Z-Bo too. I think. I don't know, you guys never kept anybody for more than a couple years in that era. Like Steve Francis or the aforementioned Gallo. Knicks from like 2001-2009 were in cap hell, just trading bad contracts for bad contracts (see McGrady trade that finally got them out of it). Crawford I think stayed the longest during that time like 4 years. Z-Bo lasted 1 season, McGrady half, Hughes half, Frye 2 seasons, Jeffries 3 seasons, McDyess old broken ass like 2 seasons
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Post by sfvega on Jun 18, 2023 0:20:34 GMT -5
They had Z-Bo too. I think. I don't know, you guys never kept anybody for more than a couple years in that era. Like Steve Francis or the aforementioned Gallo. Knicks from like 2001-2009 were in cap hell, just trading bad contracts for bad contracts (see McGrady trade that finally got them out of it). Crawford I think stayed the longest during that time like 4 years. Z-Bo lasted 1 season, McGrady half, Hughes half, Frye 2 seasons, Jeffries 3 seasons, McDyess old broken ass like 2 seasons Horsemen4ever must have been punching air watching games those days. Just ugly, ugly roster construction with no chance of competing.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 12:37:55 GMT -5
More off-season scuttlebutt:
- Rockets new coach Ime Udoka wants a vet PG and they are expected to be linked to Vanvleet. Magic are also interested in him
- Bucks expected to get Middleton back for the max. Expectation is that Lopez will be back as well but teams are interested in him
- Vucevic is also expected to remain with the Bulls
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 15:34:17 GMT -5
NO FIRST!!!! Yeah, Stern would had not let this trade go thru
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 18, 2023 15:38:48 GMT -5
They kept Ayton?
Man, they really torturing that boy.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jun 18, 2023 15:44:57 GMT -5
Them making that trade shows the Wizards new GM's priority was just getting off Beal's shitty contracts more then even draft picks since a deal with the Heat would mean some 1st's but also getting Robinsons contract of 30 mill a year until 2026.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 18, 2023 15:51:13 GMT -5
Upon further review.
So it's basically Shamet for Beal because they will waive Paul.
Holy crap this is brutally bad.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 15:51:27 GMT -5
Them making that trade shows the Wizards new GM's priority was just getting off Beal's shitty contracts more then even draft picks since a deal with the Heat would mean some 1st's but also getting Robinsons contract of 30 mill a year until 2026. Also shows that all Beal ever wanted was get paid
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 15:52:25 GMT -5
Upon further review. So it's basically Shamet for Beal because they will waive Paul. Holy crap this is brutally bad. They really wanted to get rid of that contract and NTC everyone knew was a bad idea All Beal wanted to do was get paid and now that he is paid he wants to run
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 18, 2023 15:56:52 GMT -5
Them making that trade shows the Wizards new GM's priority was just getting off Beal's shitty contracts more then even draft picks since a deal with the Heat would mean some 1st's but also getting Robinsons contract of 30 mill a year until 2026. I guess as a small counter to this, did beal wanna go to Miami? The Wiz screwed themselves by giving him a no trade when only 11 dudes in nba history have gotten em. That franchise is a mess
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 15:59:28 GMT -5
Them making that trade shows the Wizards new GM's priority was just getting off Beal's shitty contracts more then even draft picks since a deal with the Heat would mean some 1st's but also getting Robinsons contract of 30 mill a year until 2026. I guess as a small counter to this, did beal wanna go to Miami? The Wiz screwed themselves by giving him a no trade when only 11 dudes in nba history have gotten em. That franchise is a mess Beal did want to go to Miami but Wiz would had to take back a long term contract it seems with Duncan or someone else on the roster They completely f***ed themselves. The new GM has basically said we starting zero
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2023 16:05:37 GMT -5
There's no way that trade should go through.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 16:08:37 GMT -5
There's no way that trade should go through. Silver is not David Stern
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2023 16:09:40 GMT -5
There's no way that trade should go through. Silver is not David Stern He lets this through dude is straight up incompetent lmao. Like what the f*** are we doing here where that is an okay trade? I'm not too pressed cause I don't think Phoenix will do anything even with how great Beal is but that's just straight up unfair.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 18, 2023 16:14:39 GMT -5
How does LeBron feel about this? Someone get a reporter out to his place ASAP.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 16:15:21 GMT -5
Silver is not David Stern He lets this through dude is straight up incompetent lmao. Like what the f*** are we doing here where that is an okay trade? I'm not too pressed cause I don't think Phoenix will do anything even with how great Beal is but that's just straight up unfair. This trade tips the scales because they literally gave up nothing of value and can still move Ayton for assets Silver is the babysitter in a players league. Suns now have essentially a 2 year window to win because the CBA won't really allow you to carry 3 max contracts once the new agreement starts This is basically a salary dump which should not happen. The fact they getting no first is not a good move
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2023 16:19:10 GMT -5
He lets this through dude is straight up incompetent lmao. Like what the f*** are we doing here where that is an okay trade? I'm not too pressed cause I don't think Phoenix will do anything even with how great Beal is but that's just straight up unfair. This trade tips the scales because they literally gave up nothing of value and can still move Ayton for assets Silver is the babysitter in a players league. Suns now have essentially a 2 year window to win because the CBA won't really allow you to carry 3 max contracts once the new agreement starts This is basically a salary dump which should not happen. The fact they getting no first is not a good move That's what gets me most, the fact that Ayton wasn't included. That's just asinine.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jun 18, 2023 16:25:44 GMT -5
I would imgaine if Wizards wanted Ayton he would have been included,but there's no gurantee they could have moved a 0 time all star who doesn't try on defense making 32 million
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 18, 2023 16:34:35 GMT -5
This trade tips the scales because they literally gave up nothing of value and can still move Ayton for assets Silver is the babysitter in a players league. Suns now have essentially a 2 year window to win because the CBA won't really allow you to carry 3 max contracts once the new agreement starts This is basically a salary dump which should not happen. The fact they getting no first is not a good move That's what gets me most, the fact that Ayton wasn't included. That's just asinine. Wizards didn't want long term salary back which is why they didn't talk to other teams with young controllable pieces
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 18, 2023 16:37:52 GMT -5
Wizards core:
2023 7th Overall Pick Deni Avidja Corey Kispert
Uhh..........
Yeah, they are going to be really bad the next 3-5 years. They should've kept Rui.
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