What If? Summerslam 1999

[darthobiwan]

Now onto 1999.

Does Dlo hold onto both titles?

Should Edge & Christian, Hardys, Holly's, Mideon & Viserca, or Albert & Droz win Turmoil?

Should Tori had won a Women's title?

Does Bossman retain Hardcore title?

Does Blackman get the better of Shamrock in Lions Den?

Should Test have to break up with Stephanie?

Should Xpac & Kane stayed champions longer?

Should Rock have been made to kiss Billy's ass?

Should Austjn retain or Hunter win his first wwf title here?

[bob]

I hated Taker and Big Show's team

[darthobiwan]

Jun 24, 2023 17:29:44 GMT -5 bob said:

I hated Taker and Big Show's team

Not the worst team up, but I will say amongst most aspects of Attitude Era and their respective history with different tag team partners, Unholy Alliance as they were looking back are mostly forgettable (I only remember them feuding with Kane and Xpac, then Undertaker getting injuries late 1999 and being out for almost a year).

I do remember they had a short-lived theme that sounded like "evil carnival " music, but even that is mostly forgettable compared to all the different iconic Undertaker themes there have been.

[darthobiwan]

So the 3 matches are decided that will be changed, just need to figure which team wins the turmoil match.

[genericusername]

I'm kinda surprised Billy Gunn beating the rock won, I thought no one but me would vote for it.

[Spider2024]

Jun 27, 2023 11:08:16 GMT -5 genericusername said:

I'm kinda surprised Billy Gunn beating the rock won, I thought no one but me would vote for it.

I voted for him out of sympathy. Winning KOTR only to get promptly fed to The Rock and that was literally it for his singles push (that particular singles push, at least.)

[darthobiwan]

Jun 29, 2023 19:11:37 GMT -5 Spider2024 said:

Jun 27, 2023 11:08:16 GMT -5 genericusername said:

I'm kinda surprised Billy Gunn beating the rock won, I thought no one but me would vote for it.

I voted for him out of sympathy. Winning KOTR only to get promptly fed to The Rock and that was literally it for his singles push (that particular singles push, at least.)

I remember at that time in 1999 that rumors were he was going to be wwf champion sometime within a year (hahaha looking back now). I think the issue with Billy winning KOTR that year was no one really saw it coming, and going into the event there was like 5-6 other guys most people expected/felt deserved to win instead.

Also ironic that just finishes the tag team turmoil poll with Droz and Albert winning, and just heard about news with Droz (RIP).

Will try getting my bookings posted by this weekend.

[darthobiwan]

We are LIVE from Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota for the 12th Summerslam! We have 9 matches tonight, 5 of which will be title matches, a Lions Den match, Tag team turmoil, Greenwich Streetfight, and even a kiss my ass match.

Opening match is for both Intercontinental title AND European titles, as Dlo Brown defends both belts against Jeff Jarrett. While Dlo puts on a good showing, JJ has the ace up in sleeve with Mark Henry, as Mark betrays his friend Dlo and helps Jeff win both belts!

*Second match is the 6 team tag team turmoil match. First 2 teams are Edge & Christian vs Hardys Boys. The 2 teams battle fast and furious for 10 minutes, already wearing themselves thin before the other teams arrive. Matt is able to catch Christian in a twist of fate and pins him, so Edge & Christian are out! Next team out are Mideon & Viserca from Ministry of Darknesss. Hardys are too quick and make short work of the dark boys (haha) and Jeff pins Mideon after a swanton bomb. Speaking if Ministry members, out come Acolytes. They are fresh and take advantage of beaten down Hardys and Faarooq pins Jeff after a dominator. Next team is the tattooed and piercings duo of Droz & Prince Albert. Droz & Albert are able to double team to take down Acolytes, and Albert knocks Faarooq out with his version of a powerbomb, while Droz catches Bradshaw with a flying body press and pins him. This leads us to the last team, which are the Holly cousins (Hardcore and Crash). Holly's bring the roughness and take advantage for a couple minutes, then when Crash attempts to sneak the pinfall on Droz, Hardcore pulls him off! This leads to a shoving match, then they come to blows! Which they are too busy fighting, Albert and Droz recover, and Albert powerbombs Hardcore, while Droz schoolboys Crash into a pin! Droz & Albert win tag team turmoil!!!

Before the next match, Roadogg is introduced and does his whole "Oh you didn't know" stick and hypes up the crowd. Wwf newcomer Chris Jericho interrupts him and says he is "saving everyone from being bored by Roadogg". Roadogg tells Y2J "We got 2 word for ya" which the crowd responds. Roadogg decides to stick around for Hardcore title match, which sees Big Bossman defending against Al Snow. The 2 fight all over the arena, and across the street to a local bar. The entire time Roadogg catches after them providing his own unique spin on commentary. While in the bar, the 2 attack each other with pool sticks and fight ontop of a pool table. When Roadogg gets a little too close, Bossman shoves him, leading to Roadogg nailing Bossman with a cue ball, and AL pins him ontop of pool table to win Hardcore title!

*Fourth match is Ivory defending Women's title against Tori. The 2 women's fight for 5 minutes, and Tori is able to reverse Ivorys DDT attempt to DDT her instead and pins her! Tori wins Women's title!!!
After the match, crowd cheers as Tori celebrates holding the belt she has tried since Wrestlemania 15 to win.

Fifth match is a Lions Dens Weapons match, with Ken Shamrock vs Steve Blackman. During this match they use kindo sticks and chairs. In the end, Shamrock makes Blackman tap out to an ankle lock.

Sixth match is the Greenwich Streetfight, with Test taking a Shane McMahon. The posse get involved, but Test is able to fight them all off. In the end, Test nails Shane with a flying elbow drop and pins him! With his victory, Test and Stephanie can now date freely without objections from Shane.

Seventh match is for Tag Team belts, with Xpac & Kane taking on Undertaker & Big Show. Big Show chokeslams Kane while Undertaker pins Xpac after a tombstone for the Unholy Alliance to win the belts!

*Eigthth match is Rock vs most recent King of the Ring winner, Billy Gunn. The "assman" also brings out a woman on the heavier side. Billy is able to hold his own against Rock for most part. Rocky does get to "lay the smackdown" for a bit. At one point Billy prompts the woman to get on the apron and turn to her backside. Billy tries to force Rock into her backside, but Rock reverses it and forces Billy into the backside instead! While Rock then goes for a clothesline, Billy shoves the referee in front of him, causing Rock to hit referee by mistake. Rock is then able to nail Billy with a rock bottom, then since referee is still out, Rock decides to go ahead and attempt a people's elbow. Rock throws the elbow pad into crowd, bounces off the ropes twice, and then out of nowhere Chyna runs into the ring and clotheslines Rock! She then gives him a nutshot for good measure, leaving him for easy pickings for Billy to recover and nail a famasser, leading to Chyna waking up referee and counting to 3! Billy Gunn has beaten Rock!!!
After the match, Chyna forces Rock face-first into Billy's ass, and the 2 ex-degenerates celebrate as it looks like at least these 2 are back on the same page!

Main Event is for WWF title in a triple threat. Stone Cold Steve Austin defends against HHH and Mankind, with Governor Jesse Ventura the referee! Chyna and Shane try getting involved to assist Hunter. At one point Hunter uses a chair on Austin and attempts to cover him, but Jesse shakes his head and refuses to count after that. Shane McMahon tries getting into the Governor's face, and Jesse literally ends up throwing him out of the ring. Austin stuns HHH, then Mick/Mankind uses mandible claw to wear down Austin, then does a double-arm ddt and Jesse counts the pinfall. Mankind wins his third world title in 8 months!
After the match, Jesse hands the belt and raises Micks hand in victory, then HHH and Chyna attack Austin, with Hunter attacking Austin several times with a chair (will Austin ever be the same again?).

[darthobiwan]

Fantasy booking until Summerslam 2000...

Hhh comes on Raw asking for 1 more match, this time 1 on 1. Mankind agrees on the condition that HHH face and beat an opponent of Micks choosing. The opponent ends up being Kane. HhH pins Kane after interference from Chyna and a pedigree.
For winning tag team turmoil, Albert & Droz get tag title shot.

Unforgiven ppv
Billy Gunn pins Dlo Brown after famasser.
Tag team title match: Big Show & Undertaker have miscommunication, which leads to Albert powerbombing Undertaker through annouce table, then Droz does a top rope dropkick and pins Big Show. So Droz & Albert are tag team champions!
Wwf title match: Mankind & HHH brawl to outside ring and both get DQ.

No Mercy ppv.
Ladder match: Hardys beat Edge & Christian in a ladder match that tears the house down!
IC title match: Chyna pins Jeff Jarrett after hitting him with his own guitar to win Intercontinental title AND be first woman to do so!
Hell in a Cell for wwf title: Mankind vs HHH. This time it they fight ontop of the cage and HHH is the one to get thrown off cell and crashing onto announce table! When they get back into Cell, Mankind finishes HHH until he passes out, so Mankind retains wwf title.

Survivor Series ppv
Kurt Angle makes in ring wwf debut by pinning Shawn Stasiak after Angle slam.
HHH beats Stone Cold Steve Austin senseless and pins him after a pedigree. Austin is now "seriously injuried" and will be out for several months (getting neck surgery).
Rock survives an elimination match after pinning Xpac last after a rock bottom.
Wwf title match: With help from Chyna, Billy Gunn pins Mankind and becomes new wwf champion!

Armageddon ppv
Chris Jericho pins Chyna after lionsault to win Intercontinental title!
Rock pins Roadogg after people's elbow.
Wwf title match: Billy Gunn retains wwf title against Big Show with assistance from other DX guys (HHH, Xpac, and Chyna).
No Holds Barred match: HHH pins Vince Mcmahon after a sleighammer shot to head. Stephanie also joins HHH and turns against her dad.

Royal Rumble ppv.
In a backstage segment at beginning of show, HHH and rest of DX tell Billy Gunn they will NOT be there for him tonight for title match against Cactus Jack/Mick Foley.since they all want to focus on the Rumble match and it is "every man for himself".
Streetfight for wwf title: Cactus Jack pins Billy Gunn after a dohblearm ddt through table to win WWF title!
Rumble match Final 4: Rock (22), HHH (25), Big Show (28); and Xpac (30). Rock rock-bottom HHH and Hunter rolls out of ring for a few minutes while the other 3 keep fighting, Big Show catches Xpac in a presslams and tosses him out. Show chokeslams Rock, then tries the over the shoulder throw Rocky out, but Rock holds onto ropes as Big Show falls out of the ring. Then while Rock is still holding onto rope, HHH runs back into the ring knees Rock off the apron, therefore HHH wins 2000 Royal Rumble!

No Way Out ppv.
Kurt Angle pins Chris Jericho to win Intercontinental title!
Dudley Boys beat Albert & Droz to win tag team titles!
8 man tag team main event: DX (HHH, Billy Gunn, Roadogg, and Xpac) beat Cactus Jack, Rock, Big Show, and Kane. Big Show turns against his partners NY chokeslaming Rock, and HHH pins Kane after pedigree.

Lesding up to Wrestlemania 16...
Mick Foley is able to get Hunter to agree their Streetfight for wwf title will have DX Barred from ringside.
Big Show says he was tired of Rock saying he was "better than everyone else", and this leads to their Wrestlemania match.
First TLC match is announced for Wrestlemania (Dudleys, Hardys, Edge & Christian).

Wrestlemania 16.
Chris Benoit makes Kurt Angle tap out to crossface to win Intercontinental title!
Droz pins Hardcore Holly to win Hardcore title!
Kane pins Albert after a tombstone.
Jaqueline pins Tori to win Women's title!
TLC: Edge & Christian win tag team belts!
Big Show pins Rock after a chokeslam. After match he chokeslams him through annouce table, and this is last time Rock is on WWF TV for rest of year (rumors are he is either going to WCW or Hollywood).
Streetfight: HHH pins Cactus Jack after pedigree through thumbtacks to win WWF title!

Night after Wrestlemania.
Mick Foley announces his retirement and says the last 2 year run was so awesome it can not be topped.

Backlash ppv.
Dean Malenko makes Scotty 2 Hotty tap to Texas cloverleaf to win Lightheavyweight title!
Chris Benoit pins Chris Jericho after flying headbutt to retain ic title.
Hhh pins Kane after pedigree to retain WWF title.

Judgment Day ppv.
Crash Holly pins Droz to win Hardcore title!
Albert pins Mark Henry to win European title!
Hhh pins Big Show after pedigree to retain WWF title.

Leading up to King of the Ring.
Undertaker returns after being gone since September and challenges Albert, who mainly injuried him.
Droz wins a battle royal to challenge Chris Benoit for Intercontinental title.

King of the Ring ppv.
Tournament Finals: Kurt Angle pins Chris Jericho after Angle slam to become King!
Undertaker pins Albert after tombstone to win European title!
Droz pins Chris Benoit after a rollup in an upset to become Intercontinental champion!
HHH pins Rikishi after pedigree to retain wwf title.

Fully Loaded ppv.
Kurt Angle pins Big Show to become top contender for wwf title.
Tag team titles; Edge & Christian retain against Undertaker & Kane when Kane turns against Undertaker by chokeslaming him, then Edge pins him after a spear.
Hhh pins Chris Jericho after pedigree to retain WWF title.

Featured Summerslam 2000 matches include...
3 way for IC title: Droz vs Benoit vs Jericho.
Kane vs Undertaker.
TLC 2: Edge & Christian vs Dudleys vs Hardys.
Xpac vs Stone Cold Steve Austin (latters return since Survivor Series).
Wwf title match: HHH vs Kurt Angle.

[darthobiwan]

Title changes/opening match/Main event changes.

Opening match: 3 in 12 (25%).
Wwf/E title: 7 in 9 (78%).
IC title: 5 in 11 (45%).
Tag Team titles: 3 in 8 (38%).
Women's title: 2 in 3 (67%).
*Other titles not defended at least 5 times:
(Million $): 1 in 1 (100%).
European: 1 in 3 (33%).
Hardcore: 0 in 1 (0%).
Main Event: 8 in 12 (67%).





*Breakdown of wrestler match changes. The parentheses will show the breakdown of changing in matches favor or against.


*5 or more changes
Ultimate Warrior: 5 (1 in 5).
Bret Hart: 5 (1 in 5).


*4 or less changes
Shawn Michaels: 4 (1 in 4).
Hulk Hogan: 3 (0 in 3).
Ted Dibiase: 3 (3 in 3).
Owen Hart: 3 (3 in 3).
Billy Gunn: 3 (1 in 3).
Andre The Giant: 2 (2 in 2).
Rick Rude: 2 (2 in 2).
Jim Neidhart: 2 (1 in 2).
Smash: 2 (1 in 2).
Jacques Rougeaus/Mountie: 2 (1 in 2).
Big Boss Man: 2 (1 in 2).
Randy Savage: 2 (0 in 2).
IRS: 2 (1 in 2).
Davey Boy Smith: 2 (1 in 2).
Undertaker: 2 (1 in 2).
Xpac/123 Kid: 2 (1 in 2).
Kane/Isaac Yankem: 2 (2 in 2).
Ken Shamrock: 2 (1 in 2).
Raymond Rougeaus: 1 (0 in 1).
Dynamite Kid: 1 (1 in 1).
Honky Tonk Man: 1 (1 in 1).
Arn Anderson: 1 (0 in 1).
Tully Blanchard: 1 (0 in 1).
Akeem: 1 (1 in 1).
Ax: 1 (0 in 1).
Earthquake: 1 (1 in 1).
Crush: 1 (1 in 1).
Virgil: 1 (0 in 1).
Gen. Adnan: 1 (1 in 1).
Col. Mustafa/Iron Sheik: 1 (1 in 1).
Rick Martel: 1 (0 in 1).
Hawk: 1 (0 in 1).
Animal: 1 (0 in 1).
Lex Luger: 1 (1 in 1).
Yokozuna: 1 (0 in 1).
Mr. Perfect: 1 (1 in 1).
FAKE Undertaker/Brian Lee: 1 (1 in 1).
Bull Nakano: 1 (1 in 1).
Alundra Blayze: 1 (0 in 1).
Mabel: 1 (1 in 1).
Diesel: 1 (0 in 1).
Razor Ramon: 1 (1 in 1).
Vader: 1 (1 in 1).
Jake Roberts: 1 (1 in 1).
Jerry Lawler: 1 (0 in 1).
Marty Jannetty: 1 (1 in 1).
Al Snow/Leif Cassiedy: 1 (1 in 1).
Bart Gunn: 1 (0 in 1).
Steve Austin: 1 (1 in 1).
Roadogg: 1 (0 in 1).
Mankind/Mick Foley: 1 (1 in 1).
Jeff Jarrett: 1 (1 in 1).
Rock: 1 (0 in 1).
Albert: 1 (1 in 1).
Droz: 1 (1 in 1).
Faarooq: 1 (0 in 1).
Bradshaw/JBL: 1 (0 in 1).
Tori: 1 (1 in 1).
Ivory: 1 (0 in 1).

Mick keeps the new tread of wwf title results being the same at 2 in a row. Two thirds of Main events AND women's champions were different so far, while only 1 fourth of opening matches had different results. Looks like mostly new superstars had new results happen for them (for better or worse), while Billy sees his third match changed thus far.