The Hulk Hogan vs. Billy Kidman feud in 2000

[The Rick Jericho]

If Hogan was a more willing participant to help put Kidman over, would this feud work better?

Or was it doomed from the start because the gap between Kidman and Hogan star power was too much, so no one bought them as equals in his feud?

What would you do differently in this storyline given all we know that happened in the end here.

[chazraps]

1) Hogan's willingness.

2) Make Kidman the face and Hogan the heel.

Would drastically have made worlds of differences.

[Citizen Snips]

Even if the feud was booked perfectly, you’d still have to overcome their completely clashing in-ring styles and Kidman’s lack of charisma.

So I’m going to say nothing would’ve ever made this work.

[XIII]

Kidman is such a weird case for me. He was never really a 5 star worker like the Radicalz and he had virtually zero charisma…so I’m not exactly sure why he was as successful as he was. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[chazraps]

Kidman had charisma. He gave off that legitimate cool vibe that people got behind.

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Flock Kidman was the only time I thought Kidman was cool. Easily his best look and persona. They should've stuck with it after the Flock split up instead of making him bland babyface guy.

[Starshine]

Doesn't matter how they wanted to book anything considering Hogan still had the creative control clause, and he was clearly not interested in helping Kidman at all.

[y4j1981]

Jul 16, 2023 18:13:07 GMT -5 ThankGodForSidJustice said:

Flock Kidman was the only time I thought Kidman was cool. Easily his best look and persona. They should've stuck with it after the Flock split up instead of making him bland babyface guy.

Which is funny, considering Kidman didn't "understand" his gimmick in the Flock

[tirtefaa]

Wasn't the plan that the Millionaire's Club was initially the heels and the New Blood was the faces? But then the live crowd trashed the whole thing?

Regardless, I don't think Hogan should have turned heel again so soon after his association with the nWo, but at the same time, he added nothing to the product and his creative control was absurd.

The product certainly felt better when Hogan and Savage (officially) finally left. I wish a lot of the other veterans would have followed suit.

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Jul 16, 2023 18:48:41 GMT -5 y4j1981 said:

Jul 16, 2023 18:13:07 GMT -5 ThankGodForSidJustice said:

Flock Kidman was the only time I thought Kidman was cool. Easily his best look and persona. They should've stuck with it after the Flock split up instead of making him bland babyface guy.

Which is funny, considering Kidman didn't "understand" his gimmick in the Flock

I thought he portrayed it well enough. Don't get why he didn't like it. I don't blame him for being frustrated about them not getting enough wins as they really should've won more. Raven was a one of the more pushed heels around that time so you should have his minions win at least sometimes to put them over as threat.

I disagree with Raven about how the Flock shouldn't have been comprised of guys already seen before and him wanting guys that had never been seen. The whole point of the group was that they were a collection of lost souls. A group of misfit toys who didn't fit in that Raven was praying on so he could have people do his dirty work for him. Also it's not like the guys picked were house hold names or anything. Kidman and Reis were job guys. Hammer and Riggs were lower midcard guys who quickly flamed out after failed pushes. Then you had Saturn, Sick Boy, and Lodi who all had never been seen before.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

I don’t think anything would have really made it work better because at the end of the day, Kidman was solid but not a main event guy. It wasn’t like Eddie Guerrero where everyone could see that he could work, had charisma for days, and could give a good promo. Kidman was good in the ring, but not that level. He had some charisma but again, not that level. I can’t even remember him doing a promo, but I’m sure he did.

Could he have been presented better? Absolutely. Could he have been higher on the card than solid opening match or even cruiserweight title match? Yes, I think so. But main event? I didn’t see it then and I don’t see it now.

[stephen90]

Jul 16, 2023 16:08:19 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

If Hogan was a more willing participant to help put Kidman over, would this feud work better?

Or was it doomed from the start because the gap between Kidman and Hogan star power was too much, so no one bought them as equals in his feud?

What would you do differently in this storyline given all we know that happened in the end here.

It should have been Mike Awesome

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Jul 16, 2023 21:33:44 GMT -5 stephen90 said:

Jul 16, 2023 16:08:19 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

If Hogan was a more willing participant to help put Kidman over, would this feud work better?

Or was it doomed from the start because the gap between Kidman and Hogan star power was too much, so no one bought them as equals in his feud?

What would you do differently in this storyline given all we know that happened in the end here.

It should have been Mike Awesome

They put Awesome against Nash. I found it funny with the Millionaires Club against New Blood feud all the feuds were mirror image deals with the old established guys facing basically younger versions of themselves. Nash/Awesome, Flair/Douglas, Luger/Bagwell (then Luger against Palumbo), Hennig/Stasiak, Sid/Wall (which was quickly aborted when Sid abruptly left like usual). However Hogan gets Kidman who was like the total opposite of him from a wrestling and size standpoint.

[Main Event Mark]

FUNB

[fw91]

Jul 17, 2023 20:11:56 GMT -5 Main Event Mark said:

FUNB

I don't why Hulk always assumed we knew what FU stood for.

[Starshine]

Jul 17, 2023 22:28:48 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Jul 17, 2023 20:11:56 GMT -5 Main Event Mark said:

FUNB

I don't why Hulk always assumed we knew what FU stood for.

No joke, back in the day I thought it had something to do with all the FUBU gear Kevin Nash wore back then.