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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 17, 2023 23:57:52 GMT -5
The one that always gets me is Two Time Slammy Award Winner Owen Hart. Owen was doing some of the best work of his career during this time. Harping on his Slammy wins for months (one of which he was just supposed to be presenting) at a time when the Slammys were forgotten about by just about everyone as soon as the show ended really showcased what an entertaining narcissist his character was.
What made me think of this though was Chelsea Green and Sonya Deville winning the Women’s Tag Team titles. The belts aren’t exactly worthless, but they feel like one of a million titles right now that aren’t being booked well or memorably. But Chelsea Green has been hitting it out of the park with her Karen gimmick. Finally having gold in WWE will add another layer to her character and I could see it being a lot of fun.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Jul 18, 2023 0:37:19 GMT -5
Didn’t they make a big deal about the Ax man, Curtis Axel beating Triple H twice, yet once was by DQ and the other was a stoppage cause Brock kicked his ass so bad he had a concussion?
That shit was great, not to the Owen Slammy level, but I thought it really sold Axel as a loser…which wasn’t the point at all, so I reckon it failed.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 18, 2023 9:43:46 GMT -5
Didn’t they make a big deal about the Ax man, Curtis Axel beating Triple H twice, yet once was by DQ and the other was a stoppage cause Brock kicked his ass so bad he had a concussion? That shit was great, not to the Owen Slammy level, but I thought it really sold Axel as a loser…which wasn’t the point at all, so I reckon it failed. On the topic of beating specific people as an accomplishment, upsetting AJ Styles was essentially James Ellsworth’s identity. WWE actually got something out of Ellsworth as a character before he blew it all with…well you know. Jeff Jarrett had a VERY similar thing to the Axel deal when he returned to the WWF in 1997. He beat Undertaker and Vader on back to back nights. Undertaker by DQ and Vader by count out after Vader ran after Goldust for flashing him. Mankind being promoted as having the most wins over Undertaker was this kind of accomplishment though actually impressive. Again they weren’t flukes and Undertaker was dominant so it doesn’t really belong in this thread, but figured it was worth mentioning as it’s related.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 18, 2023 9:58:56 GMT -5
One of the first things that got Miz over as a singles wrestler in 2009 was his mini-feud with Cena when he'd claim all these bullshit wins via technicality. Like he'd call Cena out a segment after Cena had just been injured by whoever his real feud was with and Miz would claim victory via forfeit. He did this for like a month and got some good heat until the next PPV they finally had a real match and Cena got revenge. It was basically the Jericho/Goldberg thing from 1998 only Miz actually got a PPV match with the big star at the end of it while Goldberg refused to do that with Jericho and just speared him on Nitro to end it.
Dana Brooke was in tears when she won the 24/7 title because it was her first ever title and a bunch of wrestlers were really happy for her on social media afterwards. It's why I've never agreed with the Russo style "titles are meaningless and just props/story devices." They clearly mean something to the wrestlers themselves and obviously fans too if they're always calling for their favorites to get title reigns.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 18, 2023 10:27:35 GMT -5
Zack Ryder winning the US title is worth discussing here. Nobody really cared about the US title, but Ryder went hard on promoting the idea of himself as US champion, in a very "this is probably what I can realistically achieve" sort of way. And people really got behind it, and it meant the world when he pulled it off.
WWE taking the belt off him almost immediately and never letting him win it again, conversely, emphasized that even if the fan perception was that the belt didn't matter, convincing WWE to let him have the belt at all was a herculean task.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jul 18, 2023 10:47:10 GMT -5
Barry Horowitz milking his win over a GWF jobber, nicknaming himself "The Winner" and claiming to have a ($29.95) VHS of the match to sell.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 18, 2023 11:36:51 GMT -5
Zack Ryder winning the US title is worth discussing here. Nobody really cared about the US title, but Ryder went hard on promoting the idea of himself as US champion, in a very "this is probably what I can realistically achieve" sort of way. And people really got behind it, and it meant the world when he pulled it off. WWE taking the belt off him almost immediately and never letting him win it again, conversely, emphasized that even if the fan perception was that the belt didn't matter, convincing WWE to let him have the belt at all was a herculean task. You could say the same thing about him winning the IC title at Mania. It wasn't all that prestigious at that time but my God the pop when he won. Then, the next night.... yeah.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 18, 2023 12:23:05 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan's entire first title reign was built around him winning matches with shenanigans and technicalities and then celebrating like he was Hogan and he'd just lifted Andre.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Jul 18, 2023 12:26:04 GMT -5
Sami Zayn surviving 10 minutes with Braun.
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Post by government mule on Jul 18, 2023 12:40:49 GMT -5
D'Lo Brown representing different European countries whilst champion made me care.
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Post by chrom on Jul 18, 2023 12:42:01 GMT -5
D'Lo Brown representing different European countries whilst champion made me care. Wasn't that Al Snow?
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 18, 2023 13:03:39 GMT -5
Zack Ryder winning the US title is worth discussing here. Nobody really cared about the US title, but Ryder went hard on promoting the idea of himself as US champion, in a very "this is probably what I can realistically achieve" sort of way. And people really got behind it, and it meant the world when he pulled it off. WWE taking the belt off him almost immediately and never letting him win it again, conversely, emphasized that even if the fan perception was that the belt didn't matter, convincing WWE to let him have the belt at all was a herculean task. You could say the same thing about him winning the IC title at Mania. It wasn't all that prestigious at that time but my God the pop when he won. Then, the next night.... yeah. Wasn't he supposed to not win at Mania, but the other wrestler basically went "F it! Let him have the moment."
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Post by government mule on Jul 18, 2023 13:05:12 GMT -5
D'Lo Brown representing different European countries whilst champion made me care. Wasn't that Al Snow? D'Lo did it too. He would come to the ring with the announcers hailing him from a different country each time.
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 18, 2023 13:36:56 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith winning that 20-man battle royal at the Royal Albert Hall in 1991. Why was it different than any other battle royal? It had a lot of big names and future Hall of Famers in it, I guess. But they treated it like he'd won the Royal Rumble and talked him up for like two years because of it.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jul 18, 2023 13:50:20 GMT -5
Going way back, but I'd say when Big John Studd cut Andre's hair and carried it around with him forever.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 18, 2023 14:47:02 GMT -5
D'Lo Brown representing different European countries whilst champion made me care. Wasn't that Al Snow? Al took it several steps further by having various gimmicks from the country he was representing.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 18, 2023 16:33:29 GMT -5
In the months headed into Summerslam 90, Rick Rude bragged about how he was the only person to beat The Ultimate Warrior for a championship. While that is true, what isn't mentioned is he did it with through shenanigans after he attempted to suplex Rude and Bobby Heenan tripped Warrior holding his foot on the apron, but with the way Rude said it, it was like he beat him decisively and on his own.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 18, 2023 17:21:59 GMT -5
In the months headed into Summerslam 90, Rick Rude bragged about how he was the only person to beat The Ultimate Warrior for a championship. While that is true, what isn't mentioned is he did it with through shenanigans after he attempted to suplex Rude and Bobby Heenan tripped Warrior holding his foot on the apron, but with the way Rude said it, it was like he beat him decisively and on his own. I unno getting that roid freak to lay down for anyone at that point was a pretty big accomplishment regardless...
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Post by malloc on Jul 18, 2023 17:42:06 GMT -5
Did Larry Zybsko only start calling himself living legend after getting a DQ victory or winning a non title match or something?
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jul 18, 2023 17:44:21 GMT -5
D'Lo Brown representing different European countries whilst champion made me care. I always wanted Rusev or Nakamura to do this with different US states when they were US Champion.
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