Schizo
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Post by Schizo on Aug 6, 2023 20:29:06 GMT -5
It says something to the quality of Joshi and in particular STARDOM that they can do this. And you not bat a f***ing eye because they than throw a show with 5 star bangers all over the place right after and you just left to imagine the above was just a feaver dream. So my point is wanna up the quality WWE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE TITLES AND PUT WOMEN IN GIANT ZORB BALLS TO DO BATTLE! Next Royal Rumble every participant needs to wear these!
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asuka007
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 6, 2023 20:41:51 GMT -5
It says something to the quality of Joshi and in particular STARDOM that they can do this. And you not bat a f***ing eye because they than throw a show with 5 star bangers all over the place right after and you just left to imagine the above was just a feaver dream. So my point is wanna up the quality WWE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE TITLES AND PUT WOMEN IN GIANT ZORB BALLS TO DO BATTLE! twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/1659890198602461185Or stuff like this as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 20:46:17 GMT -5
It says something to the quality of Joshi and in particular STARDOM that they can do this. And you not bat a f***ing eye because they than throw a show with 5 star bangers all over the place right after and you just left to imagine the above was just a feaver dream. So my point is wanna up the quality WWE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE TITLES AND PUT WOMEN IN GIANT ZORB BALLS TO DO BATTLE! Or stuff like this as well. Love that even the ref all NO SEXY! and I love this has become Kogumas giant weakness lol
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 6, 2023 20:56:16 GMT -5
I think the tag titles are actually a good vehicle for developing the midcard of the women’s division instead of adding a third singles title. I think they’ve done a good job with the tag titles lately, with Liv, Raquel, Shayna, Iyo, Dakota, Chelsea, Sonya all getting some shine in recent months without being involved in the world title picture.
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J is Justice
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Post by J is Justice on Aug 6, 2023 21:14:20 GMT -5
Let's just rename WWE Current to Stardom.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Aug 6, 2023 21:40:39 GMT -5
I think it also doesn't help that Hunter loves telling stories sooooo f***ing slow. Like it's great to build things, but not every women's feud has to be this 6 month or year long thing.
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DMO-
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Post by DMO- on Aug 7, 2023 0:12:01 GMT -5
A lot of times I find their matches are clunky/sloppy, unless it’s like Rhea/Bel air/iyo/asuka in there. A lot of the times it feels like they’re just doing planned spots and doesn’t seem fluent or organic really. Hard to stay focused when it’s like that.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 7, 2023 5:26:29 GMT -5
A lot of times I find their matches are clunky/sloppy, unless it’s like Rhea/Bel air/iyo/asuka in there. A lot of the times it feels like they’re just doing planned spots and doesn’t seem fluent or organic really. Hard to stay focused when it’s like that. I said this in the AEW section, but I sometimes wonder how women’s matches are impacted by being held in rings that are designed with average male pro wrestlers in mind: the height and tautness of the ropes, the elevation off the ground, the sheer size of the ring surface, etc. But I think wrestlers like the joshi and a few others tend to strike better and look crisper both due to greater levels of high end experience, but also due to, no crassness intended, training regiments that include dedicated lower body work. There’s a reason squats are arguably the most important workout for a wrestler, and it’s not just so your butt looks good in tights, it’s because a solid foundation helps on strikes and throws looking crisp and helps guard against injury on basic moves.
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Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 7, 2023 5:40:58 GMT -5
It says something to the quality of Joshi and in particular STARDOM that they can do this. <Zorb cut so it's not quoted a million times> And you not bat a f***ing eye because they than throw a show with 5 star bangers all over the place right after and you just left to imagine the above was just a feaver dream. So my point is wanna up the quality WWE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE TITLES AND PUT WOMEN IN GIANT ZORB BALLS TO DO BATTLE! Honestly this is part of why joshi are a step ahead, they get the serious reps and training but they also get experience in so many different situations. Zorbs, giant pandas, comedy, serious, wrestling on mats, street wrestling, deathmatches, tags, triple threats, intergender, wrestling outside talent and/or going on excursions (Stardom not so much but other Joshi). Afterall that there isn't a scenario you can put them into that they can't adapt to all while staying in character.
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mistery
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Post by mistery on Aug 7, 2023 7:31:20 GMT -5
I feel like the match quality as of late has fallen, mainly because both main shows have pretty glaring flaws:
- On RAW, the top champion is Rhea which is fine, but they've done absolutely nothing to portray anyone as a threat towards her. There's a massive credibility gap between her (and Becky), and the rest of the women. That's not to say Rhea should lose often at all, but she pretty much always runs over whoever she's feuding with even without breaking a sweat.
- Additionally, the RAW Women's Division is completely shallow in terms of credible babyfaces who the audience can get behind. You have uh...Becky and Liv (who is injured), and that's largely it. They are trying to make Raquel a thing, but they've been trying for over a year and more often than not she comes out to indifference and she just isn't that fun to watch in the ring.
- Smackdown is very much loaded with talent, but they don't get the time to actually showcase it, because WWE is more focused on the Bloodline stuff dominating the show.
- I say Smackdown is loaded with talent, but at the same time, you have Bianca who won to a shocking amount of indifference at Summerslam (admittedly she lost the title two minutes later but still), and Charlotte who is somehow putting in negative levels of effort into her matches now, and it drags everything down. People have started to notice a pattern with her matches where unless she has a personal grudge against management backstage, or is going over, she tends to put in virtually no effort, making everyone look bad.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 7, 2023 8:40:16 GMT -5
I feel like the match quality as of late has fallen, mainly because both main shows have pretty glaring flaws: - On RAW, the top champion is Rhea which is fine, but they've done absolutely nothing to portray anyone as a threat towards her. There's a massive credibility gap between her (and Becky), and the rest of the women. That's not to say Rhea should lose often at all, but she pretty much always runs over whoever she's feuding with even without breaking a sweat. - Additionally, the RAW Women's Division is completely shallow in terms of credible babyfaces who the audience can get behind. You have uh...Becky and Liv (who is injured), and that's largely it. They are trying to make Raquel a thing, but they've been trying for over a year and more often than not she comes out to indifference and she just isn't that fun to watch in the ring. - Smackdown is very much loaded with talent, but they don't get the time to actually showcase it, because WWE is more focused on the Bloodline stuff dominating the show. - I say Smackdown is loaded with talent, but at the same time, you have Bianca who won to a shocking amount of indifference at Summerslam (admittedly she lost the title two minutes later but still), and Charlotte who is somehow putting in negative levels of effort into her matches now, and it drags everything down. People have started to notice a pattern with her matches where unless she has a personal grudge against management backstage, or is going over, she tends to put in virtually no effort, making everyone look bad. I thought Charlotte was going all out in the Summerslam match. That was a very good match, imo and she was the one kind of keeping it together spot-wise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 9:11:02 GMT -5
It says something to the quality of Joshi and in particular STARDOM that they can do this. <Zorb cut so it's not quoted a million times> And you not bat a f***ing eye because they than throw a show with 5 star bangers all over the place right after and you just left to imagine the above was just a feaver dream. So my point is wanna up the quality WWE YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE TITLES AND PUT WOMEN IN GIANT ZORB BALLS TO DO BATTLE! Honestly this is part of why joshi are a step ahead, they get the serious reps and training but they also get experience in so many different situations. Zorbs, giant pandas, comedy, serious, wrestling on mats, street wrestling, deathmatches, tags, triple threats, intergender, wrestling outside talent and/or going on excursions (Stardom not so much but other Joshi). Afterall that there isn't a scenario you can put them into that they can't adapt to all while staying in character. Yea , they are extremely adaptable which is what makes just watching Joshi in general so much fun. And this is has been an issue with WWE..they all workout the same way , they train the same way everyone else trains in the PC and this really IMO is what contributes to the larger issue here with match quality and you can tell the difference between and IYO , Asuka who have that Joshi adaptability to a PC trainee that I have said is slower footed to get going. and goes to what I said about Joshi they just have this inherent ability to make it seem like they are just reacting to eachother with how they can just flow from move to move to move without a botch.
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