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Post by The Ichi on Aug 20, 2023 12:08:30 GMT -5
still thinking about the kevin kelly line last night and how insulting that shit is to the audience What did he say? |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 20, 2023 12:10:12 GMT -5
still thinking about the kevin kelly line last night and how insulting that shit is to the audience What did he say? Something along the lines of "FTR, who have been in the news this week" |
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 20, 2023 12:17:12 GMT -5
Yeah, that was a terrible line. Kevin Kelly was awful throughout the entire show, but that line was in its own category of awful.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 20, 2023 12:39:14 GMT -5
I have no strong opinion either way on what they should do, but 'do the match at Wembley but have him lose' as though that's some sort of punishment, is insane to me. It's scripted entertainment, the money and the spot are the rewards. If Marvel tried to justify keeping Jonathan Majors because Kang loses in the end they'd be ridiculed. "We don't have to change our plans, keep our high profile match, he keeps his money and gets a prominent spot on the card BUT loses a fake fight... deal?" Who says he needs to get paid in wembly? They can slap him with a fat ass fine as well. Hit him where it hurts |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 12:52:29 GMT -5
The current trend on social to compare misdemeanors and felonies between wrestlers as if one ignorant move cancels the other out is going to give me an aneurism
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Post by stoptheclocks on Aug 20, 2023 14:19:20 GMT -5
I have no strong opinion either way on what they should do, but 'do the match at Wembley but have him lose' as though that's some sort of punishment, is insane to me. It's scripted entertainment, the money and the spot are the rewards. If Marvel tried to justify keeping Jonathan Majors because Kang loses in the end they'd be ridiculed. "We don't have to change our plans, keep our high profile match, he keeps his money and gets a prominent spot on the card BUT loses a fake fight... deal?" More like he loses, drops the belts in a way that's just not fading off of TV and them vacating another championship, and then he goes off TV, suspended, etc I think if the match is happening that's their plan if Cash can go to England, essentially doing the match and then going to hopefully get the help he needs We're talking about him pulling a gun on someone and (in your words) requiring professional help. How does worrying about vacating a belt even come into consideration, or delaying things a week for that matter? Either they're taking it seriously and act now, or they crack on and let the police process play out. It's not an easy call and I wouldn't neccessarily kill them either way. But if they do let things run beyond Wembley, nobody can seriously make out they are doing it for any other reasons than completely self-serving ones. |
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Post by The Captain on Aug 20, 2023 14:41:50 GMT -5
Literally salivating at the thought of all the chants Cash is going to get at Wembley. At least the first portion of the match is going to be one big 80k shitpost I hope so. Let's just say the fan reaction to Cash I've seen on social media hasn't exactly been the most condemning of his actions as I would hope. Way too many people valuing "good wrassler" over "he f***ing flashed his piece at someone." |
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 20, 2023 14:50:11 GMT -5
Literally salivating at the thought of all the chants Cash is going to get at Wembley. At least the first portion of the match is going to be one big 80k shitpost I hope so. Let's just say the fan reaction to Cash I've seen on social media hasn't exactly been the most condemning of his actions as I would hope. Way too many people valuing "good wrassler" over "he f***ing flashed his piece at someone." And let's not forget social media is a bubble. There will be many there completely unaware. Although of course it's a big story and a big crowd so a sizeable number will. |
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Post by government mule on Aug 20, 2023 15:11:13 GMT -5
I don't envy having to make these decisions so close to a show. Dude put them in the worst possible situation The last person I remember f***ing up this bad in lead up to a big match was Hager getting busted for weed like 2 weeks before his Mania title shot against Del Rio The irony of his opponent being Alberto Del Coke-head of all people is amazing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 15:20:01 GMT -5
I hope so. Let's just say the fan reaction to Cash I've seen on social media hasn't exactly been the most condemning of his actions as I would hope. Way too many people valuing "good wrassler" over "he f***ing flashed his piece at someone." And let's not forget social media is a bubble. There will be many there completely unaware. Although of course it's a big story and a big crowd so a sizeable number will. So I could absolutely be wrong but to me AEW fans and anyone attending AEW shows is almost by necessity more connected than a WWE fan... It's certainly a double edge sword because it can be seen that AEW caters to that demographic only but it also makes for a much more personal product... With that said If they do not know before they go they would likely find out before FTR even came out due to the sheer size of that crowd... |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 20, 2023 15:27:29 GMT -5
I have no strong opinion either way on what they should do, but 'do the match at Wembley but have him lose' as though that's some sort of punishment, is insane to me. It's scripted entertainment, the money and the spot are the rewards. If Marvel tried to justify keeping Jonathan Majors because Kang loses in the end they'd be ridiculed. "We don't have to change our plans, keep our high profile match, he keeps his money and gets a prominent spot on the card BUT loses a fake fight... deal?" Are you genuinely under the impression that's what people mean? Like, say the match gets called off. He's still tag champion. If you strip him of the titles, that punishes Dax, who hasn't done anything wrong, along with the Bucks. If he loses the titles, he is no longer champion and misses out on future big matches, but the others aren't missing one of the biggest shows of their career because he was a dumbf***. Like, it's not complicated, honestly. |
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Post by markymark on Aug 20, 2023 15:27:33 GMT -5
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 20, 2023 15:38:45 GMT -5
have I missed their statement about the situation? |
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Post by Chiral on Aug 20, 2023 15:43:11 GMT -5
have I missed their statement about the situation? The only statement I saw from them was a boilerplate "we're monitoring the situation and following it" one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 15:43:14 GMT -5
have I missed their statement about the situation? Was going to ask the same thing...Some of the backlash is because of the lack of statement outside of "we are monitoring" and Kevin freakin' Kelly of all people |
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on Aug 20, 2023 15:47:10 GMT -5
I mean if you need a gimmick punishment for FTR...  Though tbh I'd rather see actual consequences for y'know, casually threatening to murder someone during road rage. I've always wondered what this gimmick would have been like if they actually went through with it, what would be the explanation for why they're wearing the outfits? what would their new theme sound like? |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 20, 2023 15:48:16 GMT -5
Are you genuinely under the impression that's what people mean? Like, say the match gets called off. He's still tag champion. If you strip him of the titles, that punishes Dax, who hasn't done anything wrong, along with the Bucks. Not if you write Cash Wheeler off TV and give his place to someone else. Have someone attack him backstage (perferably someone/a team that has storyline beef with both The Bucks and FTR) and have someone else tag with Dax at Wembley. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 20, 2023 15:58:33 GMT -5
Are you genuinely under the impression that's what people mean? Like, say the match gets called off. He's still tag champion. If you strip him of the titles, that punishes Dax, who hasn't done anything wrong, along with the Bucks. Not if you write Cash Wheeler off TV and give his place to someone else. Have someone attack him backstage (perferably someone/a team that has storyline beef with both The Bucks and FTR) and have someone else tag with Dax at Wembley. That would honestly also be acceptable to me, like Mark Briscoe, for instance. |
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 20, 2023 16:17:26 GMT -5
I have no strong opinion either way on what they should do, but 'do the match at Wembley but have him lose' as though that's some sort of punishment, is insane to me. It's scripted entertainment, the money and the spot are the rewards. If Marvel tried to justify keeping Jonathan Majors because Kang loses in the end they'd be ridiculed. "We don't have to change our plans, keep our high profile match, he keeps his money and gets a prominent spot on the card BUT loses a fake fight... deal?" I'd agree usually but FTR definitely strike me as the type that hate losing scripted matches, especially for titles. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 20, 2023 16:18:47 GMT -5
Not if you write Cash Wheeler off TV and give his place to someone else. Have someone attack him backstage (perferably someone/a team that has storyline beef with both The Bucks and FTR) and have someone else tag with Dax at Wembley. That would honestly also be acceptable to me, like Mark Briscoe, for instance. Sadly Mark is going to miss the show due to injury, he would have been my first choice as a replacement. With him missing, I would go with Wardlow, dude has history with FTR as part of The Pinnacle. |
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