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Post by Aceorton on Sept 14, 2023 13:04:54 GMT -5
Inspired by Rick Martel's turn on Tito Santana at WrestleMania 5. Tito clobbers Martel in what is very obviously a one-time accident. Martel, who has been nothing but a white meat babyface for virtually his entire career, holds his face for the next five minutes as if his jaw is dislocated, leaves Tito to be destroyed by the Brain Busters and becomes a conceited ass for the next several years, during which he blinds a man with cologne, steals sacred Native American feathers, openly attempts to steal another heel's girlfriend and other shamelessly nefarious offenses. Like, what the hell, Martel? Was that inside you the whole time?
Any other examples where something that wasn't that big a deal ended up turning a good guy into a terrible human being?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 14, 2023 15:09:52 GMT -5
I know it's fun to joke about Hogan lusting after Liz but in reality Savage was a paranoid lunatic who couldn't stand that "his" woman was friendly with another guy.
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Post by fg on Sept 14, 2023 16:17:04 GMT -5
I know it's fun to joke about Hogan lusting after Liz but in reality Savage was a paranoid lunatic who couldn't stand that "his" woman was friendly with another guy. Yes and that’s what made him more wrong than Hogan was. Hulk wasn’t a saint during this but Randy was more in the wrong. |
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Sept 14, 2023 16:38:42 GMT -5
When Kane first lost his mask, he basically went insane. I mean, soon after, he hooked up Shane McMahon’s testicles to a car battery.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 14, 2023 17:29:22 GMT -5
Something that could have saved the Martel turn from being so random: if they started it retroactively at WrestleMania IV. After all, Tito grabbing Fuji and distracting the referee allowed Ax to come in with the cane and knock Martel out. So losing the tag team titles was kind of his fault. You can somehow have Martel try to spin Tito not being there for him when he got injured months later. The bit about him rather doing singles matches was there when he returned.
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Post by theghostofalwilson on Sept 14, 2023 17:36:25 GMT -5
Inspired by Rick Martel's turn on Tito Santana at WrestleMania 5. Tito clobbers Martel in what is very obviously a one-time accident. Martel, who has been nothing but a white meat babyface for virtually his entire career, holds his face for the next five minutes as if his jaw is dislocated, leaves Tito to be destroyed by the Brain Busters and becomes a conceited ass for the next several years, during which he blinds a man with cologne, steals sacred Native American feathers, openly attempts to steal another heel's girlfriend and other shamelessly nefarious offenses. Like, what the hell, Martel? Was that inside you the whole time? Any other examples where something that wasn't that big a deal ended up turning a good guy into a terrible human being? At least there was some consistency with Martel being so upset about getting hit in the face to him then becoming a model and the whole Shawn Michaels storyline and stipulation where no hitting in the face was allowed. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 14, 2023 17:40:32 GMT -5
I know it's fun to joke about Hogan lusting after Liz but in reality Savage was a paranoid lunatic who couldn't stand that "his" woman was friendly with another guy. Yes and that’s what made him more wrong than Hogan was. Hulk wasn’t a saint during this but Randy was more in the wrong. That and, if you watch the promos leading up to Mania, but stop just before the "I love Elizabeth!" edited clip from Brother Love, it seems like Savage has a point to dislike Hogan. The doctored clip then the Pukamaniac rant killed any chance of any shades of grey being in this build-up. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 14, 2023 18:00:10 GMT -5
Again, I must mention the Pez Whatley heel turn. Everything was fine...until the point when Jimmy Valiant called him the best black athlete in the world. I won't even get into the scissor controversy.
I'm guessing, as always, there's a wide load of Russo examples out there.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Sept 14, 2023 21:38:44 GMT -5
I loved how mid 1990's ECW played with this trope by having Cactus Jack trying to justify his heel turn on Mikey Whipwreck by stating that Mikey was always leaving half eaten bags of Doritos in the car when they traveled together (Cactus had an eating disorder you see), Mikey wouldn't stop said car and let Cactus appreciate the Autumn foliage on their road trips and Mikey borrowing Cactus' Leonard Cohen album and not returning it.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 14, 2023 21:43:53 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero turning on Tajiri for taking a bump on the hood of his car.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 14, 2023 21:55:27 GMT -5
Lacey Evans losing a karaoke contest, then attacked Naomi, the winner.
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 15, 2023 7:42:05 GMT -5
Again, I must mention the Pez Whatley heel turn. Everything was fine...until the point when Jimmy Valiant called him the best black athlete in the world. I won't even get into the scissor controversy. I'm guessing, as always, there's a wide load of Russo examples out there. I believe that Whatley was looking for any excuse to turn on Valiant. That's why he had the scissors in his back pocket. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 15, 2023 8:19:56 GMT -5
When Kane first lost his mask, he basically went insane. I mean, soon after, he hooked up Shane McMahon’s testicles to a car battery. Kane had two feuds because someone spilled coffee on him |
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 19, 2023 9:38:30 GMT -5
ALBERT HAD TO DANCE FOR SIX MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by chronocross on Oct 19, 2023 9:39:50 GMT -5
Didn't Kane turn heel on Jericho because he spilled coffee on Kane by accident?
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Post by cassonova on Oct 19, 2023 9:47:03 GMT -5
Inspired by Rick Martel's turn on Tito Santana at WrestleMania 5. Tito clobbers Martel in what is very obviously a one-time accident. Martel, who has been nothing but a white meat babyface for virtually his entire career, holds his face for the next five minutes as if his jaw is dislocated, leaves Tito to be destroyed by the Brain Busters and becomes a conceited ass for the next several years, during which he blinds a man with cologne, steals sacred Native American feathers, openly attempts to steal another heel's girlfriend and other shamelessly nefarious offenses. Like, what the hell, Martel? Was that inside you the whole time? Any other examples where something that wasn't that big a deal ended up turning a good guy into a terrible human being? Overreaction? My client has a classic case of Fred Flintstone Post-Concussion Syndrome. The force of Tito's infamous forearm was enough to dislodge a fantasy personality, one that overtook Martel's own. Instead of giving Martel medical attention or a piledriver, they gave him a giant button that read "Yes, I am a model." |
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 19, 2023 9:54:42 GMT -5
Didn't Kane turn heel on Jericho because he spilled coffee on Kane by accident? Look two posts above. |
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Post by chronocross on Oct 19, 2023 9:57:36 GMT -5
Didn't Kane turn heel on Jericho because he spilled coffee on Kane by accident? Look two posts above. Sorry about that, I scrolled down quickly and didn't see it there. |
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Post by tafkaga on Oct 19, 2023 11:44:19 GMT -5
Most heel turns are.
Why couldn't Shawn have just sat Marty down on the Barber Shop and said, "Listen Marty, this Rockers thing isn't working for me anymore, man. My heart just isn't in it. I love you man, but I think we need to go our separate ways before we self-destruct." And then Marty would brain him with a brick and throw his body in the Chattahoochee River.
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Post by nickcave on Oct 19, 2023 12:55:07 GMT -5
Tatanka turning on Bobby Lashley because the white man was holding him down or something
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