Nosnorb
El Dandy
Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 22, 2023 1:21:35 GMT -5
Not really shocked given Vinci has like nothing to latch onto character wise and the match had the most predictable result ever because Vinci doesn't win matches, even Kaiser wins some singles SOMETIMES... The purpose of the ironically named Vinci is to lose to whoever is challenging Gunther. How many matches has this dude actually won?
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Sept 22, 2023 1:26:37 GMT -5
LOL @ WWE Raw ratings under a million come November 2023. If WWE is hitting these numbers now, just how much lower can they go at the end of the year when interest in the product is typically moribund.
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4real
Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Sept 22, 2023 3:07:30 GMT -5
Austin & Goldberg would never get over these days.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 22, 2023 7:07:51 GMT -5
If RAW slides just a bit, it would not be a completely outlandish possibility that NXT could beat both RAW and Dynamite in a given week.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Sept 22, 2023 13:50:45 GMT -5
There goes the very slim hope I had that Ciampa would actually get over to any degree on the main roster. Enjoy those big paychecks while working on Main Event until Endeavor wishes you the best in your future endeavors.
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 22, 2023 17:35:29 GMT -5
I've said this enough in the AEW ratings threads, but it's just as true for WWE, too: the ebbs and flows of viewership in the quarter hours almost never has anything to do with solely what matches are on or who's being featured. There are exceptions, but the biggest reasons people tune out from the program have more to do with commercial breaks or something on another channel being more interesting. And with MNF, that's a very big elephant in the room for interesting television.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Sept 22, 2023 17:53:54 GMT -5
I've said this enough in the AEW ratings threads, but it's just as true for WWE, too: the ebbs and flows of viewership in the quarter hours almost never has anything to do with solely what matches are on or who's being featured. There are exceptions, but the biggest reasons people tune out from the program have more to do with commercial breaks or something on another channel being more interesting. And with MNF, that's a very big elephant in the room for interesting television. Especially with how unpredictable football (and sports in general) can get. A blowout game can turn into a dramatic comeback on a dime and with that, viewers flock to see it unfold.
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UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Sept 23, 2023 2:06:28 GMT -5
obviously isn’t there fault but damn if it doesn’t piss me off that vinci doesn’t have his old gimmick and more opportunities to show how good he is
people might forget he was regularly stealing the show inring over in NXT in Imperium but there’s absolutely nothing to him on the main roster
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 23, 2023 2:19:27 GMT -5
Vinci does definitely need something. At least Kaiser has his whole introduction thing, Vinci's just The Third One.
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JIMBOB
Unicron
PLAY! REWIND! RELIVE!
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Post by JIMBOB on Sept 23, 2023 11:06:44 GMT -5
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Clutchhausen
Don Corleone
Darby deserves better.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Sept 23, 2023 12:07:35 GMT -5
#BaldLife
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Post by KingPooper on Sept 23, 2023 15:12:18 GMT -5
Ciampa’s main roster run has been garbage. If you didn’t know him from NXT he comes across as “That guy”
Vinci looks like a CAW default and is just a bump guy for Gunther.
I don’t care how “good” the wrestling is. Nobody wants to see this match.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Sept 23, 2023 15:49:02 GMT -5
Have these two considered wearing hats? Even in the shower?
It's obvious that their baldness offended Americans.
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Post by government mule on Sept 23, 2023 16:48:17 GMT -5
hair on a pole match[/Russo]
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 23, 2023 17:08:56 GMT -5
Ciampa’s main roster run has been garbage. If you didn’t know him from NXT he comes across as “That guy” Honestly even a lot of the latter end of his NXT run he was just kind of there.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 23, 2023 21:11:42 GMT -5
Nobody wanted to watch a pointless match...you don't say?!
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Sept 25, 2023 6:15:47 GMT -5
Speaking as someone who remembers the New Generation, the Diva era, and the Guest Host era This was my reaction as well.
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A damn road sign
Samurai Cop
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Post by A damn road sign on Sept 25, 2023 7:20:52 GMT -5
Have these two considered wearing hats? Even in the shower? It's obvious that their baldness offended Americans. Sombrero
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 25, 2023 18:47:08 GMT -5
The problem is, where else can you try and get these guys over if not RAW or SmackDown? You can’t send every f***er with no pops down to NXT for six months.
It’s a vicious cycle. Any act that gets over and pops a number then gets overexposed in efforts to keep the number up, while there’s no space for talents who aren’t over to try and get over, and then when there is, the numbers die and they’re not booked again.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 25, 2023 18:58:08 GMT -5
The problem is, where else can you try and get these guys over if not RAW or SmackDown? You can’t send every f***er with no pops down to NXT for six months. It’s a vicious cycle. Any act that gets over and pops a number then gets overexposed in efforts to keep the number up, while there’s no space for talents who aren’t over to try and get over, and then when there is, the numbers die and they’re not booked again. Because Vinci had the character that was working for him in NXT dropped after the main roster call-up, and regularly takes the falls for Imperium. Ciampa was involved in that Nakamura/Reed/Ricochet cycle that didn't lead to anything meaningful.
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