BRV
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Post by BRV on Sept 23, 2023 20:37:27 GMT -5
I was just looking over the SmackDown male roster, and of the 26 wrestlers listed, only three (Cameron Grimes, Karrion Kross, LA Knight) are not actively in a faction or team.
Have we reached the point of over saturation of teams and factions? Or am I just looking too hard into things?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 20:50:39 GMT -5
To me it is not so much about having too many.
It is the fact they pretty much all of them are completely stagnent and holding alot of talent back.
Like BloodLine and JD are basically mirrors of one another atleast very recently.
And now it is becoming atleast meme level that every faction they push the hardest has to have every member hold titles and show up on multiple shows....like once they start really pushing this bobbo faction they are likely to get that treatment next.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 23, 2023 21:09:59 GMT -5
Nah, I think wrestlers having alliances/factions helps tell better stories.
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A Little Doo Doo
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Sept 23, 2023 21:11:19 GMT -5
They make it feel like there aren't enough teams, the way the tag division's booked.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 23, 2023 21:12:26 GMT -5
They make it feel like there aren't enough teams, the way the tag division's booked. And up until NXT with Valkyria and Roxanne, Becky had no friends for a while.
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Post by clc on Sept 23, 2023 22:29:23 GMT -5
So what should we name the new Cameron Grimes, Karrion Kross, and LA Knight Faction? Maybe they can be members of Cena's new Chain Gang
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Post by KingPooper on Sept 27, 2023 12:04:28 GMT -5
I think the big problem most come off as Los Boricuas and not DX... tag teams to get the solo guy over. If and when they break up nobody is going to care about a Giovanni Vinci, Joaquin Wilde, or Ridge Holland solo run.
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Post by johnbarowitz on Sept 27, 2023 12:19:33 GMT -5
I think there's too many. Factions are good for the product, but not everyone needs to be in one.
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 27, 2023 12:51:01 GMT -5
I like a lot of factions. Hell, I'm an NJPW fan and almost the entire roster is in some sort of team or stable.
It's on how the factions are booked more than the concept of factions. Like I think Judgment Day is strongly booked with each member having a clear purpose and identity within it. As much as Bloodline is the Roman Reigns Appreciation Society, I don't think Jey Uso would be able to embark on his current singles face run without it. On the other hand the LWO really just feels like it's Rey Mysterio, Zelina, and friends outside of the night Bad Bunny repped them.
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 27, 2023 13:04:53 GMT -5
I seem to remember a similar discussion a while back about AEW, but I digress.
The problem isn't having the factions, as I feel it could help wrestlers who might not get much attention solo. It's what you do with them. Bloodline when it was around and Judgment Day all give someone something to do in the group (and with Judgment Day, even with Priest holding Money in the Bank, it's not a "one leader and lower levels helping that person", unless you count Rhea in that role).
LWO was mostly formed from feuding with Judgment Day, and we'll have to see that fate after the Rey/Santos match on Friday.
Lashley's new group is in question of continuing if we go by last Smackdown
Brawling Brutes are spinning their wheels while Sheamus is injured and Butch is doing stuff on NXT.
So it's all a matter of what is done with the group rather than if there are too many, IMO.
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Post by ejm olmos on Sept 27, 2023 13:21:54 GMT -5
I don’t think so. My stupid brain idea was always that everyone should at least have one person they’re tied to officially or otherwise, so that there’s built-in history for whenever the need arises for a singles feud to have a tag team match.
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Post by Gremlin on Sept 27, 2023 14:39:53 GMT -5
I don't think there could ever be too many factions or teams. Go to any social setting and you'll find people buddying up. A lone wolf is the exception.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Sept 27, 2023 16:26:46 GMT -5
There can never be enough factions when the writing is good enough to support them. There lies the problem.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Sept 28, 2023 10:44:16 GMT -5
It has really tested my passion for AEW and WWE is close.
They are all so derivative, regurgitating the same schtick that the Horsemen and later Evolution (and their contemporaries) did decades ago, rarely being innovative or fresh. The main problem is how they can all be ringside at each others matches. Can you imagine the WM3 main event if the Heenan family were outside the ring?
How many times are we going to see heel about to lose, only for faction members outside to interfere in the same way they have a hundred times before, after distracting the referee in the same way they have distracted not just referees, but that very same referee, a hundred times before.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Sept 28, 2023 12:52:49 GMT -5
I think so, while also acknowledging there’s several people who should be in one.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 28, 2023 14:35:53 GMT -5
I was just looking over the SmackDown male roster, and of the 26 wrestlers listed, only three (Cameron Grimes, Karrion Kross, LA Knight) are not actively in a faction or team. Have we reached the point of over saturation of teams and factions? Or am I just looking too hard into things? All this tells me is that Cameron Grimes, Karrion Kross, & LA Knight need to form a stable! They could be a heel team that thinks they are a debate club, The Mass Debaters.
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Post by HIM on Sept 28, 2023 14:57:19 GMT -5
Nah, I mean it's like school. There's always groups. I've always thought it was weird how a lot of wrestlers just don't have any friends or are affiliated with any group. Like imagine going to work and being completely by myself without even 1 friend. That's weird.
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