Schizo
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Post by Schizo on Oct 28, 2023 15:39:56 GMT -5
Her first run was great,lots of great matches, entertaining feuds, some for wrong reasons to (the Becky feud. LOL!”) she actually looked like a star then
Her 2022/2023 run? Meh wasn’t as great
Never cared to get invested in her real life views, opinions or whatever, just don’t care
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Oct 28, 2023 15:51:53 GMT -5
The first run went well up until the last few months, the last one was pretty meh. Overall I'd grade it about a C.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 28, 2023 15:52:08 GMT -5
First run was a pleasant surprise. Second run didn't need to happen at all.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Oct 28, 2023 15:54:03 GMT -5
absolutely hilarious, couldnt have happened to a better person, no notes
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Post by tenshi on Oct 28, 2023 16:07:30 GMT -5
Is it possible that Ronda is giving the indies a try because mic work isn't as much of a focus there instead of being in center stage at WWE?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 28, 2023 16:33:32 GMT -5
Her first run was an all-timer and her second run was nowhere near as good for many reasons. She's still awesome and doing an indie event for charity is really cool since she still has considerable star power.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 28, 2023 16:38:59 GMT -5
she was ok in her first run... but really sloppy at times.
seemingly visibly didn't like when the fans wouldn't cheer her...
and her second run... she was there. Whatever spark of she was a big deal was long dead by that point, they did manage to keep it for most of her first run despite her actual starpower being greatly diminished howver.
I do agree they should have made her more like Tough competitor Angle than end game Brock.
That's not getting into her shitty real world views on things.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 28, 2023 16:49:38 GMT -5
Remember her terrible "you're the millennial man" promo on Becky despite their ages being less than 24 hours apart? Maybe the worst single promo of that decade.
That said, some fun moments in the first run, the Mania main event was great, this year was awful.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 28, 2023 17:01:34 GMT -5
She was like the movie 'Hancock', good first half, dog shit 2nd half.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 28, 2023 17:07:20 GMT -5
Remember her terrible "you're the millennial man" promo on Becky despite their ages being less than 24 hours apart? Maybe the worst single promo of that decade. That said, some fun moments in the first run, the Mania main event was great, this year was awful. Yeah, she tried to do a you damned millennials thing... when she herself is a millennial... AND the person she was doing it to is OLDER than her.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Oct 28, 2023 22:27:50 GMT -5
I don't really watch WWE, but I fanboyed hard for Ronda during her MMA days so I vaguely kept tabs on what she was doing. It always seemed to me like neither the bookers nor Ronda herself quite figured out who she was supposed to be after the Holm loss and that just got reflected in her WWE character.
But, trying to put the fanboyism aside and look at her career objectively, if she'd been a guy I think she'd have topped out in a very similar spot to Ken Shamrock. Good worker, high upper midcarder who could've been plugged into the main event scene in a pinch but didn't have the charisma to be The Guy. The women's division is a lot shallower and she was too good (both in the ring and in for real fighting) to make a credible midcarder, so she sort of had to be a main eventer.
Then again, afaik she never attempted speech therapy or acting classes, and we all know what getting serious about acting did for The Dwayne. There were a few sparks of something that never turned into more.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 28, 2023 22:37:13 GMT -5
I do not like her as a person, but I'll try to be objective here.
Overall, they probably got their money's worth, though more for the first run than the second. She had some moments, and she did put some people over, so I mean, mission accomplished, even if she wasn't the gamechanger WWE may have hoped for her to be.
Awful person, but she doesn't have anything to be ashamed of in how all of this played out for her.
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Post by DichEvans on Oct 28, 2023 22:40:44 GMT -5
So what did you think of her WWE career? I'll say it: she's lucky that first leg was filled with choreographed "paint by numbers" wrestling because without it, she'd look like she looked in her latter half. She was a big name but she wasn't it. Overhyped, like I'm sure some other wrestlers would get the same if they had that same treatment. It was kinda ruined by VKM, when he threw in Charlotte to the Mania Main Event, when she had nothing to do with the story.
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Post by Andew9001 on Oct 28, 2023 23:30:05 GMT -5
Thought her first year was pretty good but it became obvious that things were going off the rails by the end of 2018.
She had some really good matches. Surprisingly i thought her match with Nikki Bella was actually really good and her debut match was awesome too. Her presence really helped elevate the womens division and i honestly believe that she was a big factor in why they had Evolution along with Becky, Charlotte, etc and all the hard work that went into things like the Mae Young Classic.
But then around Survivor Series with the whole "Becky Lynch is an avocardo toast eating millenial who stole my panties" and the negative reation she got at that event seemed like it took the wind out of her sails.
Then when she did return and won the Rumble it was just all downhill from there. I don't know if her heart wasn't in it but she just lost her groove and never obtained it again. The matches were dreadful and even her team with Shayna never really took off.
I'm sure the WwE would have loved to have pulled the trigger on The 4 Horsewomen of NXT vs The 4 Horsewomen of MMA but considering how Marina Shafir and Jessamyn Duke progressed i just don't think it was ever a plausable outcome.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 29, 2023 0:01:54 GMT -5
First run was actually pretty good
Her second run felt abysmal and was both mishandled by booking and it just felt like she wasn't really feeling it
I'm curious if she keeps at it where she could potentially end up
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 29, 2023 0:14:20 GMT -5
But then around Survivor Series with the whole "Becky Lynch is an avocardo toast eating millenial who stole my panties" and the negative reation she got at that event seemed like it took the wind out of her sails. It always fascinates how the crowd turned against Rousey at Survivor Series 2018 the way they did as the match was against Flair, who had just spent the previous three months copping all the shit because of how the crowd were getting behind Lynch against the tide of WWE trying to make her the storyline heel. I'd have thought if neither were popular we'd have been looking at a Lesnar v Goldberg WM20 situation here.
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Post by theironyuppie on Oct 29, 2023 0:59:02 GMT -5
But then around Survivor Series with the whole "Becky Lynch is an avocardo toast eating millenial who stole my panties" and the negative reation she got at that event seemed like it took the wind out of her sails. It always fascinates how the crowd turned against Rousey at Survivor Series 2018 the way they did as the match was against Flair, who had just spent the previous three months copping all the shit because of how the crowd were getting behind Lynch against the tide of WWE trying to make her the storyline heel. I'd have thought if neither were popular we'd have been looking at a Lesnar v Goldberg WM20 situation here.
It's easy to forget that Charlotte was popular in 2018, it's just that Becky was on another level at the time. Probably the best proof of this is the second Mixed Match Challenge. They were taping episodes after Smackdowns with crowds heavily favouring Becky, but the fans at the MMC still got behind Charlotte when she was tagging with AJ and Jeff Hardy. Also, if you watch the 2018 MITB match, the crowd likes Charlotte except whenever she's against Becky.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 29, 2023 1:15:32 GMT -5
So what did you think of her WWE career? I'll say it: she's lucky that first leg was filled with choreographed "paint by numbers" wrestling because without it, she'd look like she looked in her latter half. She was a big name but she wasn't it. Overhyped, like I'm sure some other wrestlers would get the same if they had that same treatment. It was kinda ruined by VKM, when he threw in Charlotte to the Mania Main Event, when she had nothing to do with the story. I think that a straight one-on-one match would have honestly been worse, like as an actual match and build. Like, remember that this is the same woman who thought the best way to promote the match was to claim Becky stole her underwear at some mysterious point. It also was a thing where if it was Becky vs Ronda, the outcome was glaringly obvious. Including Charlotte meant many fans thought she'd be the "get out of jail free card", that Becky could just pin her or that Charlotte would steal the outcome as the golden child Vince and Triple H love stapling accolades to. Charlotte can get tedious sometimes, but her inclusion added structure and intrigue, even if she was a third wheel.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 29, 2023 6:19:36 GMT -5
People are underselling Ronda's sheer influence here and underselling what a caring and thoughtful person she is out of ring. Before Ronda became a huge MMA star, she revolutionized a heel hook move in judo that she named after her aunt, Sandra, who tragically passed from cancer when she was young. For more information, google 'Ronda Rousey Sandy hook'
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Post by papagiorgio on Oct 29, 2023 7:56:48 GMT -5
Like others have said, the first round was pretty awesome, but the second round was not. It seems odd that Becky and Ronda never had a PLE match in the second go around after the somewhat controversial finish to the Wrestlemania triple threat main event (which I assume was actually a botch). She should have beat Liv at SummerSlam. She also should have lost to Becky, not Charlotte (multiple times), at some point.
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