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Post by Celexa Bliss on Oct 29, 2023 8:11:14 GMT -5
I mean, not being funny, if a movie intends to have an intermission, it would be edited as such because that’s the intention of the people making it. And if someone put a lot of work into making it work in the time that makes sense for the run time they’re aiming for and someone just decides to cut the flow off, yeah, I’d be pissed too. And frankly, it’s not easy to say “if it’s three hours, it’s full of padding” because I’ve seen lots of movies that are three hours that have wizzed by and 90 minute movies that feel like they last forever and that’s all to do with how the film is put together, acted and edited. Trying to put stuff like that into boxes seems as disingenuous as every time we talk about how long wrestling PPVs should be because it’s not as simple as putting stuff in a timeframe and calling it a day. There’s way more of it than that. I get exactly what you're saying. While I joked about the reactions, I think it is reasonable for the director/studio to insist a film be shown as they intended it to be. And to the point about long films being padded, I sat through all three hours of Endgame and it only felt like an hour and a half. Some films just need that extra time to tell a story.
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Post by mystermystery on Oct 29, 2023 10:51:20 GMT -5
Just for reference: Thelma Schoonmaker is one of the most decorated editors in film history. She co-holds the records for Best Film Editing awards and Most Nominations. She's also Martin Scorsese's go-to editor since Raging Bull (so over 40 years), so it's essentially a partnership at this point. So, yeah, I get it. Like most people who are pretty good at their jobs, she hates to see people screwing with it no matter how many people are like "Why does it matter?"
Best Film Editing 1970 Woodstock 1980 Raging Bull (Won) 1990 Goodfellas 2002 Gangs of New York 2004 The Aviator (Won) 2006 The Departed (Won) 2011 Hugo 2019 The Irishman
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Post by dreidemy on Oct 29, 2023 13:58:01 GMT -5
I think that anything over 2 hours can get a 7min break
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 29, 2023 16:18:03 GMT -5
I mean, not being funny, if a movie intends to have an intermission, it would be edited as such because that’s the intention of the people making it. And if someone put a lot of work into making it work in the time that makes sense for the run time they’re aiming for and someone just decides to cut the flow off, yeah, I’d be pissed too. And frankly, it’s not easy to say “if it’s three hours, it’s full of padding” because I’ve seen lots of movies that are three hours that have wizzed by and 90 minute movies that feel like they last forever and that’s all to do with how the film is put together, acted and edited. Trying to put stuff like that into boxes seems as disingenuous as every time we talk about how long wrestling PPVs should be because it’s not as simple as putting stuff in a timeframe and calling it a day. There’s way more of it than that. I get exactly what you're saying. While I joked about the reactions, I think it is reasonable for the director/studio to insist a film be shown as they intended it to be. And to the point about long films being padded, I sat through all three hours of Endgame and it only felt like an hour and a half. Some films just need that extra time to tell a story. Like, don’t get me wrong, intermissions would be fun to be as a thing, just for the sake of potentially theaters making more money or letting people rest but they should be done with the narrative of the film and the intention of those producing it in mind. Heck, Scorsese allegedly wanted one in Killers but Apple thought it’d be too “old timey” which isn’t a surprise from the same sort of people who think people only care about franchises and spend months of a time not producing any new works and delaying unreleased stuff because they can’t stop a work stoppage.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 29, 2023 17:22:23 GMT -5
I’ve been calling for a return for movie intermissions for years now. Big releases are pretty much all coming in at the 140+ minute mark now, building in a 5-10 minute break would likely encourage more people to experience movies in the theatre and it also gives the theatre a chance to get people to double dip on snacks. It’s win win in my opinion
When what’s essentially a children’s movie in Spiderverse 2 is coming in at 140 minutes I think we’re really getting out of hand with movie lengths. I would dread trying to take a couple 8 year olds to that movie
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Post by Bo Rida on Oct 29, 2023 17:40:59 GMT -5
I'm all for intermissions but only if they're short and the cinema doesn't run ads during them. I can see them becoming more frequent and longer for that reason like TV.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 29, 2023 17:48:33 GMT -5
An intermission is the perfect time to tell you about Nord VPN!
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Oct 29, 2023 17:53:06 GMT -5
Just for reference: Thelma Schoonmaker is one of the most decorated editors in film history. She co-holds the records for Best Film Editing awards and Most Nominations. She's also Martin Scorsese's go-to editor since Raging Bull (so over 40 years), so it's essentially a partnership at this point. So, yeah, I get it. Like most people who are pretty good at their jobs, she hates to see people screwing with it no matter how many people are like "Why does it matter?" Best Film Editing 1970 Woodstock 1980 Raging Bull (Won) 1990 Goodfellas 2002 Gangs of New York 2004 The Aviator (Won) 2006 The Departed (Won) 2011 Hugo 2019 The Irishman I don't give a shit. She can f*** right off. EDIT: Okay, that was a bit knee-jerk. But the attitude stinks. I know people with disabilities who love going to the cinema but really struggle to sit there for two hours, a 10 minute intermission every hour could make things so more welcoming. 3 hour movies are just impossible. Just wait until these "auteurs" discover accessible screenings and obviously will come out against them, because their work is supposed to be "difficult".
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 29, 2023 17:55:54 GMT -5
If Scorsese himself was open to the idea of an intermission for the film but he was talked out of it by the suits, that kinda throws the whole "artistic integrity" argument out the window for this particular movie.
Then again, I've seen a whole one movie in theaters since the pandemic started and I can't say I feel like I'm really missing anything besides paying an arm and a leg for the experience.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Oct 29, 2023 17:57:08 GMT -5
I’ve been calling for a return for movie intermissions for years now. Big releases are pretty much all coming in at the 140+ minute mark now, building in a 5-10 minute break would likely encourage more people to experience movies in the theatre and it also gives the theatre a chance to get people to double dip on snacks. It’s win win in my opinion When what’s essentially a children’s movie in Spiderverse 2 is coming in at 140 minutes I think we’re really getting out of hand with movie lengths. I would dread trying to take a couple 8 year olds to that movie I'd totally buy another drink, I've always run out by the half-way point. Probably bored by popcorn by then too, and would get something else. Cinemas would make more money. Which is what Marty wants.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 29, 2023 17:58:11 GMT -5
.................. No, if I'm watching five hours worth of TV, I'm definitely getting up at some point to piss, take a walk, get a snack, etc. This comment is shades of that parody of Russell Crowe on South Park. "My cinema is poetry, and you don't interrupt my poetry, you testicle!"
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 29, 2023 18:02:40 GMT -5
I’ve been calling for a return for movie intermissions for years now. Big releases are pretty much all coming in at the 140+ minute mark now, building in a 5-10 minute break would likely encourage more people to experience movies in the theatre and it also gives the theatre a chance to get people to double dip on snacks. It’s win win in my opinion When what’s essentially a children’s movie in Spiderverse 2 is coming in at 140 minutes I think we’re really getting out of hand with movie lengths. I would dread trying to take a couple 8 year olds to that movie I'd totally buy another drink, I've always run out by the half-way point. Probably bored by popcorn by then too, and would get something else. Cinemas would make more money. Which is what Marty wants. I don’t touch my popcorn or drink until the movie proper starts, and I still usually run out somewhere between 60 and 90 minutes in. Plus I’m never at single screen theatres anymore, where you can see the screen right up until you walk into the bathroom and still hear everything while you pee. It’s a f***ing mile to walk to the bathroom at the multiplex I go to
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Post by ANuclearError on Oct 29, 2023 18:04:45 GMT -5
I feel like this is something that can be easily solved by just having a conversation between cinema and studio.
Like, I've heard anecdotes of cinemas pausing for intermission mid-sentence, which is obviously dumb, but I feel like most auteurs would agree "Yeah, if you need a quick 5 minutes during this work, now's a good time".
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Post by Urn Anderson on Oct 29, 2023 18:19:29 GMT -5
Either way the increased prominence in recent years of auteurs going, "No, you will watch my movie THIS specific way and any other method is wrong," is really goddamn obnoxious and the sooner theaters as the primary movie market die the better. Thank you for encapsulating my feelings perfectly. This is how I've felt about all of it. Nolan, Jenkins, Scorsese, all of them. I just can't stand these people sticking their noses up so high they'd drown in the rain, demanding our $16 ticket price with decreasing levels of comfort or (in the case of the directors screeching about going to theaters or else during a pandemic) actual safety. I hate that I can only like this post once.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Oct 29, 2023 18:27:37 GMT -5
Thank you for encapsulating my feelings perfectly. This is how I've felt about all of it. Nolan, Jenkins, Scorsese, all of them. I just can't stand these people sticking their noses up so high they'd drown in the rain, demanding our $16 ticket price with decreasing levels of comfort or (in the case of the directors screeching about going to theaters or else during a pandemic) actual safety. I hate that I can only like this post once. Nolan needs a slap for his shitty audio mixes too. I don't care if it's intended that way, if I can't hear the dialogue then what's the point?
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Post by MiLB Fan on Oct 29, 2023 19:12:16 GMT -5
I'm all for intermissions but only if they're short and the cinema doesn't run ads during them. I can see them becoming more frequent and longer for that reason like TV. That’s what we had during the 70mm version of The Hateful Eight. The first half ended and then the screen was blank until Part 2 was ready to start. The only problem was that no one knew how long the intermission was, so it was a gamble if you wanted to step outside without missing anything. A simple countdown clock on the screen would have helped.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 29, 2023 19:23:48 GMT -5
I'm all for intermissions but only if they're short and the cinema doesn't run ads during them. I can see them becoming more frequent and longer for that reason like TV. That’s what we had during the 70mm version of The Hateful Eight. The first half ended and then the screen was blank until Part 2 was ready to start. The only problem was that no one knew how long the intermission was, so it was a gamble if you wanted to step outside without missing anything. A simple countdown clock on the screen would have helped. Feel like I'd be fine with ads during it since most people are going to leave the theatre anyways, and the ones sticking around are probably on their phones. But a timer in the corner, or at least a card at the beginning with "the film will resume in 10 minutes" or something would be good.
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Post by J. Hova on Oct 29, 2023 19:31:05 GMT -5
I haven't watched a movie in a theater in over a decade. With all of that said, the only logical conclusion is to piss in your pants or better yet wait until you finish the popcorn and use the bucket.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 29, 2023 19:45:54 GMT -5
better yet wait until you finish the popcorn and use the bucket. I’m not proud, but I’ve done that at a concert before. My seat was right in front of the bar, so I could get up and grab drinks without going out to the concourse and after half a dozen or so beers in the middle of a Green Day concert I quietly whipped it out and filled one of my empty beer glasses and tucked it right under my seat where it couldn’t get kicked. Thank god they serve beer with lids at the MTS Centre
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Oct 29, 2023 19:48:23 GMT -5
I haven't seen KotFM yet, but I'd urinate at the theatre before the movie starts. Then I'd go again after the movie if I needed to.
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