Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 1, 2023 14:49:26 GMT -5
The New Day with their second WWE Tag Team title run. Won the title back as heels, then turned face during the run up to WM32.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Nov 1, 2023 18:28:16 GMT -5
In 2000 Edge and Christian won their first tag titles as faces/tweeners and then a month later also played that role in their very first title defense on PPV against X-Pac and Road Dogg (whom were part of biggest heel faction at the time), then another month later had fully turned heel with the whole: reek of awesomeness/flash photography/five second pose bit.
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Nr1Humanoid
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Nov 2, 2023 10:31:34 GMT -5
In their third reign did Demolition have any matches as faces except the one where they won the title or did they turn immediately?
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chrom
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Post by chrom on Nov 2, 2023 10:52:30 GMT -5
In their third reign did Demolition have any matches as faces except the one where they one the title or did they turn immediately? They defended The Titles against The Bolsheviks as faces.
Don't ask after losing in 18 seconds at WMVI how The Bolsheviks were warranted a title shot
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Nov 2, 2023 17:03:23 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan was a face when he cashed in the Money in the Bank on Big Show, then turned heel over the next few weeks leading up the Royal Rumble, and was fully heel by Elimination Chamber.
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Oak: Certified Jade Hater
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Nov 2, 2023 23:37:28 GMT -5
ROH was terrible with this. Joe is arguably the first since he was somewhat a heel but I’d argue he was a face when he lost to Aries. Punk won the title as a face and immediately turned heel. Nigel won the title as a face and went heel after a few injuries. Tyler Black turned heel during his run too.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Nov 3, 2023 9:16:37 GMT -5
Does Lesnar in 2002 count? Started as heel but ended as a face when he lost the title that night I would say he was definitely a tweener during his feud with the Big Show in the build up.
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Ozman
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Post by Ozman on Nov 3, 2023 10:54:43 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler was a heel when he cashed in his Money In The Bank contract on Alberto Del Rio for the World Heavyweight Title the night after WrestleMania in 2013. By the time Ziggler lost it back to Del Rio, both men had made a double turn.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Nov 3, 2023 13:27:38 GMT -5
Demolition turned heel during their last reign. And turned face during their first reign.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 3, 2023 13:36:38 GMT -5
Same with Orton’s first title win except it was reverse. He was heel when he won the title and turned face the night after when evolution turned on him One of the most baffling booking choices ever to me is Orton's promo at the beginning of the show the night after he won the title. If you knew he was going to get kicked out of the heel stable at the end of the night and is going to be going face then why not have him cut a somewhat humble promo to set the stage? They had already started in that direction too when he shook Benoit's hand the previous night. Instead though he cuts a completely heel promo trashing the crowd saying they will never accomplish anything in their lives. So 2 hours later when he gets beat down it gets a lot of pops and why wouldn't it? He wasn't sympathetic in the slightest. If anything him getting beatdown was comeuppance for his promo earlier. Babyface turns that are reactive rather than proactive rarely make sense to me. Orton (and Rollins in 2016) was quite happy benefitting from heels helping him screw over the faces all the time and would have continued doing it. It only stopped because he got kicked out. No wonder they had rocky face runs to begin with. At least they got it right with Batista. HHH didn't beat him down and kick him out. Batista made the choice himself that he'd had enough and powerbombed him through the table. I kinda wonder if they learned something from the Orton debacle because pretty much every beat that failed on with Orton, they nailed perfectly with Batista when he turned. The timing, the build, the turn itself, all of it was *mwah*
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Nov 4, 2023 6:42:18 GMT -5
ROH was terrible with this. Joe is arguably the first since he was somewhat a heel but I’d argue he was a face when he lost to Aries. Punk won the title as a face and immediately turned heel. Nigel won the title as a face and went heel after a few injuries. Tyler Black turned heel during his run too. And more recently, both Claudio and Yuta won the World and Pure titles as faces, then turned heel during their reigns.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 4, 2023 8:36:42 GMT -5
Cody Rhodes turning on Hardcore Holly as RAW Tag Champ to gift Teddy Jr the other tag belt.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Nov 4, 2023 9:28:43 GMT -5
The 89-90 period with Luger is when he had turned heel and probably was gonna remain there for a while but he had to turn face after Sting's injury. I believe this is where Flair allegedly told the other booking committee members, "Either one of you shits out a top babyface or we're turning Luger."
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CMWaters
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 4, 2023 9:34:44 GMT -5
Speaking of Luger though, what alignment would we consider him for his early to mid 1996 WCW Tag Title run with Sting?
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 6, 2023 11:52:30 GMT -5
TNA had wrestlers win the title as a face and go heel, like the DDP example above. Pretty sure that win pre dated Russo but it seems to be a Russo trademark move. The belt "corrupting" whoever holds it. Speaking of... David Arquette, won as a face, turned heel in the match he lost it.
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chrom
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Post by chrom on Nov 6, 2023 13:54:28 GMT -5
Speaking of Luger though, what alignment would we consider him for his early to mid 1996 WCW Tag Title run with Sting? Started off winning it as heel then turned face when he left the Dungeon of Doom
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Nov 6, 2023 14:22:59 GMT -5
Didn't CM Punk start his over 1 year reign in WWE as a face and end up a heel?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 6, 2023 19:55:30 GMT -5
Nick Aldis kind of in his second NWA title run. He started as a tweener but went full heel by the end of his first year as champion.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 6, 2023 19:57:59 GMT -5
ROH was terrible with this. Joe is arguably the first since he was somewhat a heel but I’d argue he was a face when he lost to Aries. Punk won the title as a face and immediately turned heel. Nigel won the title as a face and went heel after a few injuries. Tyler Black turned heel during his run too. See I think in a long run like Joe or Nigel that makes sense, but Goddamn you're right about that. I'd say Joe turned face around spring of '04 during his feud with Homicide after the fireball incident.
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Mr Captain Falcon
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Nov 6, 2023 22:48:35 GMT -5
I'm assuming you meant his WWF title reigns, which would be false. He turned at survivor series 94 and won the belt days later. He lost the belt at survivor series 95 and immediately turned heel after. HOWEVER you are indeed correct that diesel did turn during a title reign as he turned face prior to he and HBK relinquishing the tag titles.
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