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Post by PTBartman on Nov 5, 2023 20:47:32 GMT -5
Sure. Just have IYO and Kairi beat her so bad she becomes sympathetic. She does a Sgt Slaughter, I want my country back promo, goes on a Lex Express-like bus tour to hug all of her fans, and has a prophetic vision when the ghost of Billy Gunn visits her and tells her the good was right there with her all along and she's ready to return. (and yeah in the UK she's getting cheered no matter what) Billy Gunn dressed as Glinda the Good Witch.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 6, 2023 23:50:40 GMT -5
All the women on Smackdown are heels. Some might get cheered, but everyone has been behaving heel-like for quite some time. They tell us Bianca is a face, and she gets cheered, but her EST gimmick is a heel gimmick. The only thing that makes her a face is she does not ever cheat. They try to tell us Charlotte is a face too, but that is laughable. Come to think of it, Raw's women are all heels too with the exception of Raquel. EST is a cocky babyface gimmick- that *is* a thing, pretty much Okada as the Rainmaker.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 7, 2023 12:58:43 GMT -5
All the women on Smackdown are heels. Some might get cheered, but everyone has been behaving heel-like for quite some time. They tell us Bianca is a face, and she gets cheered, but her EST gimmick is a heel gimmick. The only thing that makes her a face is she does not ever cheat. They try to tell us Charlotte is a face too, but that is laughable. Come to think of it, Raw's women are all heels too with the exception of Raquel. Maxxine is a face. As to the question of the thread, They turned Miz into a babyface in a manner of a week. Bayley shouldn’t be too difficult.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 7, 2023 13:06:41 GMT -5
Ehhh probably not. The problem is that as commentary pointed out, Bayley was the one who chased KAIRI out of WWE in the first place. So if Bayley gets ousted, then it's likely out of revenge, and entirely justified. That's never stopped the H-man. Lest we forget babyface Randy Orton of 2004. You can be a prick, but if your prick friends turn on you, apparently you're no longer a prick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 13:14:33 GMT -5
Ehhh probably not. The problem is that as commentary pointed out, Bayley was the one who chased KAIRI out of WWE in the first place. So if Bayley gets ousted, then it's likely out of revenge, and entirely justified. That's never stopped the H-man. Lest we forget babyface Randy Orton of 2004. You can be a prick, but if your prick friends turn on you, apparently you're no longer a prick. But this is a bit more trickier situation though. KAIRI has legit claim to beat the shit outta Bayley and IYO has always had Bayley in her way even though IYO tells her to stay away. And Cole made sure to mention what Bayley did to KAIRI and they didn't attack Bayley or do anything antagonistic towards her. Need Joshidown on friday to get here so I can see how this progresses.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 7, 2023 13:19:02 GMT -5
Anyone can turn face. Heels have attempted murder or any number of heinous actions then been cheered as faces just months if not weeks later many times over the years.
If she does hopefully she shows a little remorse/sympathy first though rather than just being beatdown by some heels then suddenly being a face. Current Jey Uso and MJF I think are good examples of becoming faces but still acknowledging at times that hey, you were a prick for a long time and screwed over a lot of people and not everyone will forgive you. Compared to like 2004 Randy Orton or 2016 Seth Rollins when it was treated like we were all just supposed to immediately embrace them because other heels attacked them despite showing zero remorse for anything they did.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 7, 2023 13:32:14 GMT -5
All the women on Smackdown are heels. Some might get cheered, but everyone has been behaving heel-like for quite some time. They tell us Bianca is a face, and she gets cheered, but her EST gimmick is a heel gimmick. The only thing that makes her a face is she does not ever cheat. They try to tell us Charlotte is a face too, but that is laughable. Come to think of it, Raw's women are all heels too with the exception of Raquel. Maxxine is a face. As to the question of the thread, They turned Miz into a babyface in a manner of a week. Bayley shouldn’t be too difficult. To be fair, Miz has reached the level where the fans will boo him when they're "supposed to" , but their hearts aren't in it anymore. They want to cheer the guy
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Post by gl83 on Nov 7, 2023 13:54:20 GMT -5
Anyone can turn face. Heels have attempted murder or any number of heinous actions then been cheered as faces just months if not weeks later many times over the years. If she does hopefully she shows a little remorse/sympathy first though rather than just being beatdown by some heels then suddenly being a face. Current Jey Uso and MJF I think are good examples of becoming faces but still acknowledging at times that hey, you were a prick for a long time and screwed over a lot of people and not everyone will forgive you. Compared to like 2004 Randy Orton or 2016 Seth Rollins when it was treated like we were all just supposed to immediately embrace them because other heels attacked them despite showing zero remorse for anything they did. Don't forget Sasha Banks in 2020. She was just as much of a dick as Bayley, but because Bayley stabbed her in the back, she became a Face without even repenting for all of the things she did previously.
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