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Post by mistery on Dec 1, 2023 23:55:12 GMT -5
I’ve been on this board for 18 years, and I’ve learned many things. One of them is that there isn’t one booking criticism in existence that doesn’t get completely dismissed if it’s to the benefit for one’s favourite talent instead. I feel like the issue with “Super Bianca” isn’t with the concept of one talent effortlessly beating others as a concept, no no no, it’s that it isn’t “Super Iyo” instead. The fact we’re already shitting on the possible babyface turn for Bayley that we’ve been GAGGING FOR for the sheer fact that she’s probably gonna beat Kai, Sane and Asuka to get it over is also insane to me. If this is conduct unbecoming of a mod, so be it, but CHILL THE ACTUAL F*** OUT. Shit’s not real, stop acting like it is. Or, and hear me out here, people are bitching about the awful booking going on here. Hell, remember one of the reasons why Kairi signed with WWE again? Because she assumed she would be booked better under Triple H. Well that all went out the window tonight. She's been back for less than a month and is already being booked like a complete loser again. There was literally no reason to have any of the women in Damage CTRL job tonight other than "lets make Bianca and friends look strong". It's infuriating and as a fan of a lot of the women in Damage CTRL, this has been going on for over a year at this point. I wonder how long it'll be until YOU realize that the booking surrounding these women is incredibly poor? It's been a year at this point. Let's look at just a few points of Damage CTRL's run on the main roster: Debut at Summerslam, immediately get ran off by Bianca the night after. Bayley goes on to lose every single title match. Damage CTRL doesn't win the tag title tournament, instead WWE opted for a god awful swerve putting the tag titles on Aliyah and Raquel, when everyone wanted them on Iyo and Dakota. Bayley loses another title match, and Damage CTRL lose the tag titles to Alexa and Asuka for a week. Regain them at Crown Jewel. Just to go on to lose at War Games. Bayley loses another title match at TLC against Bianca. 2023 doesn't start off hot for them either. Because they lose to Lita and Becky, and then to Lita, Becky, and Trish at Wrestlemania, despite the fact that Lita was hot ass in the ring during her entire run and dragged everything down. Iyo wins MITB and wins the WWE Women's Title, but not before losing to damn near every other woman on Smackdown. But wait, it gets worse. Iyo wins the title, but then can't beat Charlotte clean, because god forbid Charlotte put someone over clean. Bianca returns soon after, and Kairi returns, and we get War Games this year. Damage CTRL has all of the hype heading into it...just to lose to Bianca and friends. Again. And now we are at tonight where Bianca completely geeks out Kairi. Starting to notice a trend here? Not ONCE has Damage CTRL ever won a feud. It's always been them jobbing to Bianca and Charlotte ever since they formed, with a small break to job to Becky, Lita, and Trish. I'm sorry, but fans of Damage CTRL have every single right in the world to complain right now, because WWE creative has absolutely failed them, especially considering the talent in the group.
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Post by HIM on Dec 2, 2023 1:01:18 GMT -5
This is probably my last post on the subject for now since this thread has turned bad. I had an open Friday night so I was curious based on the negative response towards them so I decided to check out their W/Ls and judging the responses about the group, you'd think they've been losing all the time since they've formed. Come to find out it's the opposite. From the beginning it's just from Dakota's POV starting from when she and Iyo first wrestled on Raw last year post-SS and then afterwards going into Iyo.
So Dakota... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}- Beat Dana and Tamina - Beat Dana - Beat Alexa and Asuka - Lost to Aliyah and Raquel (Tag Titles) - Beat Alexa, Asuka and Bianca (Clash at the Castle) - Beat Aliyah and Raquel (Won Tag Titles) - Lost to Raquel - Beat Candice - Beat Raquel, Roxanne and Shotzi - Beat Bianca and Candice (Tag Defense) - Beat Raquel and Shotzi - Lost to Alexa and Asuka (Lost Tag Titles) - Beat Alexa and Asuka (Tag Titles Regained) - Lost War Games Match - Lost to Candice - Beat Liv and Tegan (Tag Titles Regained) - Beat Becky and Mia - Lost Royal Rumble Match - Lost to Becky and Lita (Lost Tag Titles) - Lost to Becky, Lita and Trish (Wrestlemania) - Lost to Liv and Raquel - Lost to Bianca - Lost to Bianca, Liv and Raquel - Beat Liv and Raquel - Lost to Liv and Raquel (Tag Titles) - Dakota sidelined due to injury Besides the small initial loss against Aliyah and Raquel, they (Dakota and Iyo) were winning most of their matches until War Games. After after that, they picked up afterwards and then only started really taking Ls until around WM season which was against Becky, Lita and Trish. This says that while they're dope, they're not "legends dope." This is just on their side of the group because while Iyo and Dakota were doing well, Bayley was really only facing Bianca and taking Ls besides beating her once. Other things she did during this? Beat Aliyah, Raquel, Alexa, Shotzi, Asuka, Rhea, Mia and Becky once. Basically, Bayley was good at beating others but she faced Bianca for most of the time until WM season, kept taking Ls and then took more Ls from Becky, Lita and Trish. Now this is what happened after Dakota was injured. Iyo immediately started facing Bianca for the belt. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}- Lost to Bianca (Title Match) - Lost to Raquel and Shotzi - Lost Fatal-4-Way (Tag Title Match) - Beat Shotzi - Lost to Zelina - Won MITB Briefcase - Lost to Charlotte - Lost to Zelina - Beat Bianca (Title Match at Summerslam) - Lost to Bianca and Charlotte - Beat Zelina (Title Defense) - Lost to Charlotte and Shotzi - Beat Asuka (Title Match) - Lost to Asuka and Charlotte - Beat Asuka and Charlotte (Title Match) - Beat Charlotte (Title Match) - Beat Bianca at Crown Jewel (Title Match) - Draw after Asuka turned - Lost War Games Match For Bayley post-WM, I'm not even going to name it all since it's just her taking all Ls besides beating Shotzi and Zelina twice. The truth is Dakota and Iyo actually get these Ws. It's Bayley who's been failing since the jump since she's mostly facing about Bianca, Becky and legends. Anyone else she faces? She beats. The current storyline is that Bayley's losses from the beginning has finally started affecting the group so this is even more proof that Bayley's going to turn face and finally get some much needed Ws because she, unlike Iyo and Dakota, has been losing more than anyone.
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The problem is that it feels as though as people aren't caring about who in this group wins and loses matches, basically they only care about who's "super strong and dominant" because if that's the case then we'd hear more emphasis on Iyo and Dakota winning. They win but they're just not super strong and dominant like Bianca, Becky and Charlotte who have been faces since Damage CTRL has been around. Bayley is really the main one in this group's who's been consistently losing but apparently her storyline isn't important? Man I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me. We need to be taking care of the Bayley stuff and then getting back to the others because she's been looking way worse than them the entire time this group's been formed. That's my 2 cents.
But I'm out, yall be good.
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Post by schma on Dec 2, 2023 4:03:00 GMT -5
I feel like if the story is about how Bayley is their weak link and she is why they're failing, then they should have gotten the better of the faces at the top of the show when Bayley was absent. If they're getting schooled both when Bayley is present and when she isn't, does that really help this Bayley weak link storyline?
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 2, 2023 6:08:24 GMT -5
Or, and hear me out here: You have Charlotte, Becky, and Bianca lose matches! It won't harm them, and it builds up more women. You can't have The Avengers lose matches with this Bayley stuff. We gotta get Bayley out of the mix first and once that happens, then the babyfaces will take Ls because Bayley's causing issues for them. Besides that, nobody in Damage CTRL is built up enough to where the crowd believes they should be able to beat them besides Asuka and even if Asuka wins there's really no excuse to ditch Bayley yet.
We can't have a random SD where Bianca gets beaten by Kairi. Nobody is going to believe that. You have to build up to it because it's taken years to build Bianca up to that level while Kairi just came back and isn't being looked at as strong.
They ain’t being “built up” by having Charlotte and co steamroll them constantly. As for Bayley, Triple H needs to get to the point. There’s zero reason to keep dragging it his out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 7:37:53 GMT -5
We are in an endless stupid cycle.
Heels need to beat babyfaces and vice versa to get their heat the basic principle in wrestling.
But the heels have no heat for the babyfaces to get because the babyfaces have given and done absoloutley nothing but completely trounce them over and over and over and over and the heels can't consistently generate any heat because they get trounced by the babyfaces before they even get a chance to.
Idk anymore other than lastnight was just a whole lot of bs and puts this entire thing right back to square f***ing one.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 2, 2023 7:43:51 GMT -5
I’ve been on this board for 18 years, and I’ve learned many things. One of them is that there isn’t one booking criticism in existence that doesn’t get completely dismissed if it’s to the benefit for one’s favourite talent instead. I feel like the issue with “Super Bianca” isn’t with the concept of one talent effortlessly beating others as a concept, no no no, it’s that it isn’t “Super Iyo” instead. The fact we’re already shitting on the possible babyface turn for Bayley that we’ve been GAGGING FOR for the sheer fact that she’s probably gonna beat Kai, Sane and Asuka to get it over is also insane to me. If this is conduct unbecoming of a mod, so be it, but CHILL THE ACTUAL F*** OUT. Shit’s not real, stop acting like it is. Or, and hear me out here, people are bitching about the awful booking going on here. Hell, remember one of the reasons why Kairi signed with WWE again? Because she assumed she would be booked better under Triple H. Well that all went out the window tonight. She's been back for less than a month and is already being booked like a complete loser again. There was literally no reason to have any of the women in Damage CTRL job tonight other than "lets make Bianca and friends look strong". It's infuriating and as a fan of a lot of the women in Damage CTRL, this has been going on for over a year at this point. I wonder how long it'll be until YOU realize that the booking surrounding these women is incredibly poor? It's been a year at this point. Let's look at just a few points of Damage CTRL's run on the main roster: Debut at Summerslam, immediately get ran off by Bianca the night after. Bayley goes on to lose every single title match. Damage CTRL doesn't win the tag title tournament, instead WWE opted for a god awful swerve putting the tag titles on Aliyah and Raquel, when everyone wanted them on Iyo and Dakota. Bayley loses another title match, and Damage CTRL lose the tag titles to Alexa and Asuka for a week. Regain them at Crown Jewel. Just to go on to lose at War Games. Bayley loses another title match at TLC against Bianca. 2023 doesn't start off hot for them either. Because they lose to Lita and Becky, and then to Lita, Becky, and Trish at Wrestlemania, despite the fact that Lita was hot ass in the ring during her entire run and dragged everything down. Iyo wins MITB and wins the WWE Women's Title, but not before losing to damn near every other woman on Smackdown. But wait, it gets worse. Iyo wins the title, but then can't beat Charlotte clean, because god forbid Charlotte put someone over clean. Bianca returns soon after, and Kairi returns, and we get War Games this year. Damage CTRL has all of the hype heading into it...just to lose to Bianca and friends. Again. And now we are at tonight where Bianca completely geeks out Kairi. Starting to notice a trend here? Not ONCE has Damage CTRL ever won a feud. It's always been them jobbing to Bianca and Charlotte ever since they formed, with a small break to job to Becky, Lita, and Trish. I'm sorry, but fans of Damage CTRL have every single right in the world to complain right now, because WWE creative has absolutely failed them, especially considering the talent in the group. Okay, you're clearly not having fun watching this show anymore, judging by the tone of your Damage CTRL posts. So why keep torturing yourself?
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Post by J is Justice on Dec 2, 2023 7:58:00 GMT -5
I feel like if the story is about how Bayley is their weak link and she is why they're failing, then they should have gotten the better of the faces at the top of the show when Bayley was absent. If they're getting schooled both when Bayley is present and when she isn't, does that really help this Bayley weak link storyline? Maybe the point is Kairi, etc, are blaming Bayley for their failings when it isn't actually Bayley's fault. Like, I watched the clip from last night and Bayley didn't actually do anything wrong—it was all on Kairi. Basically, the rest of Damage CTRL are using Bayley as a scapegoat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 8:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 2, 2023 9:53:46 GMT -5
I feel like if the story is about how Bayley is their weak link and she is why they're failing, then they should have gotten the better of the faces at the top of the show when Bayley was absent. If they're getting schooled both when Bayley is present and when she isn't, does that really help this Bayley weak link storyline? Maybe the point is Kairi, etc, are blaming Bayley for their failings when it isn't actually Bayley's fault. Like, I watched the clip from last night and Bayley didn't actually do anything wrong—it was all on Kairi. Basically, the rest of Damage CTRL are using Bayley as a scapegoat. Which is fine and a good catalyst for a Bayley face turn.
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Post by schma on Dec 2, 2023 10:15:37 GMT -5
Maybe the point is Kairi, etc, are blaming Bayley for their failings when it isn't actually Bayley's fault. Like, I watched the clip from last night and Bayley didn't actually do anything wrong—it was all on Kairi. Basically, the rest of Damage CTRL are using Bayley as a scapegoat. Which is fine and a good catalyst for a Bayley face turn. Although, if it isn't actually Bayley's fault then it kinda makes the others look like fools for kicking her to the curb for that reason. There are plenty of other valid reasons for them to have bad blood or for Io or Dakota to powerplay her, especially with Kairi now in the mix.
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Post by papagiorgio on Dec 2, 2023 10:15:55 GMT -5
I feel like if the story is about how Bayley is their weak link and she is why they're failing, then they should have gotten the better of the faces at the top of the show when Bayley was absent. If they're getting schooled both when Bayley is present and when she isn't, does that really help this Bayley weak link storyline? Maybe the point is Kairi, etc, are blaming Bayley for their failings when it isn't actually Bayley's fault. Like, I watched the clip from last night and Bayley didn't actually do anything wrong—it was all on Kairi. Basically, the rest of Damage CTRL are using Bayley as a scapegoat. This is what the announcers were also pointing out.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 2, 2023 10:18:32 GMT -5
Or, and hear me out here, people are bitching about the awful booking going on here. Hell, remember one of the reasons why Kairi signed with WWE again? Because she assumed she would be booked better under Triple H. Well that all went out the window tonight. She's been back for less than a month and is already being booked like a complete loser again. There was literally no reason to have any of the women in Damage CTRL job tonight other than "lets make Bianca and friends look strong". It's infuriating and as a fan of a lot of the women in Damage CTRL, this has been going on for over a year at this point. I wonder how long it'll be until YOU realize that the booking surrounding these women is incredibly poor? It's been a year at this point. Let's look at just a few points of Damage CTRL's run on the main roster: Debut at Summerslam, immediately get ran off by Bianca the night after. Bayley goes on to lose every single title match. Damage CTRL doesn't win the tag title tournament, instead WWE opted for a god awful swerve putting the tag titles on Aliyah and Raquel, when everyone wanted them on Iyo and Dakota. Bayley loses another title match, and Damage CTRL lose the tag titles to Alexa and Asuka for a week. Regain them at Crown Jewel. Just to go on to lose at War Games. Bayley loses another title match at TLC against Bianca. 2023 doesn't start off hot for them either. Because they lose to Lita and Becky, and then to Lita, Becky, and Trish at Wrestlemania, despite the fact that Lita was hot ass in the ring during her entire run and dragged everything down. Iyo wins MITB and wins the WWE Women's Title, but not before losing to damn near every other woman on Smackdown. But wait, it gets worse. Iyo wins the title, but then can't beat Charlotte clean, because god forbid Charlotte put someone over clean. Bianca returns soon after, and Kairi returns, and we get War Games this year. Damage CTRL has all of the hype heading into it...just to lose to Bianca and friends. Again. And now we are at tonight where Bianca completely geeks out Kairi. Starting to notice a trend here? Not ONCE has Damage CTRL ever won a feud. It's always been them jobbing to Bianca and Charlotte ever since they formed, with a small break to job to Becky, Lita, and Trish. I'm sorry, but fans of Damage CTRL have every single right in the world to complain right now, because WWE creative has absolutely failed them, especially considering the talent in the group. Okay, you're clearly not having fun watching this show anymore, judging by the tone of your Damage CTRL posts. So why keep torturing yourself? Best thing I ever did was just change the channel or tune out the minute Charlotte and/or Bianca come on screen. Women's wrestling discussions are crazy I say, the stanning for certain women/groups is on another level...
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 2, 2023 11:00:23 GMT -5
Which is fine and a good catalyst for a Bayley face turn. Although, if it isn't actually Bayley's fault then it kinda makes the others look like fools for kicking her to the curb for that reason. There are plenty of other valid reasons for them to have bad blood or for Io or Dakota to powerplay her, especially with Kairi now in the mix. The issue is, they still look like fools. Your top heel group should not look like a bunch of bumbling idiots. They need to be an actual threat.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 2, 2023 12:17:12 GMT -5
I feel like if the story is about how Bayley is their weak link and she is why they're failing, then they should have gotten the better of the faces at the top of the show when Bayley was absent. If they're getting schooled both when Bayley is present and when she isn't, does that really help this Bayley weak link storyline? Maybe the point is Kairi, etc, are blaming Bayley for their failings when it isn't actually Bayley's fault. Like, I watched the clip from last night and Bayley didn't actually do anything wrong—it was all on Kairi. Basically, the rest of Damage CTRL are using Bayley as a scapegoat. That’s what I was thinking too, but then they added another wrinkle to the story last night. Bayley is obviously isolated and alone now and is trying her best to show everyone that she’s a team player and wants to help them succeed; IYO is obviously very belligerent and aggressive towards Bayley and is treating her like trash; but, now you have Dakota noticing how alone Bayley is and was concerned and worried about her before IYO interrupted their conversation and ordered Bayley to stay backstage, furthering the divide.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 18:09:37 GMT -5
Real interesting how it felt lastnight that IYO might have underminded even Dakota because she was initially the one who suggested for Bayley to be out there with KAIRI only for IYO to basically put her foot down and tell Bayley to stay in the back. Once IYO took charge , Dakota basically followed her lead...it is like IYO just lets Dakota do what she do but once IYO speaks up Dakota shows she follows her. And it is the first time I can remember where IYO took serious charge like that and everyone basically followed her and the look on Bayleys face is her struggling to accept her power is steadily slipping away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 21:36:28 GMT -5
Dakota come out here look at this. IT'S A GIANT BIANCA HEAD CHASING KAIRI QUICK GET THE DYNAMITE! Oh yea some yikes comment is there to but look at the giant bianca head...10 OUTTA 10 CLC EDIT NOW IT IS A GIANT CHARLOTTE!...NEVER THOUGHT THAT THING COULD LOOK ANY MORE RIGID LOPSIDED AND PLASTIC SINCE THE SHOW ERA.
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Post by clc on Dec 2, 2023 21:55:02 GMT -5
Dakota come out here look at this. IT'S A GIANT BIANCA HEAD CHASING KAIRI QUICK GET THE DYNAMITE! Oh yea some yikes comment is there to but look at the giant bianca head...10 OUTTA 10 CLC EDIT NOW IT IS A GIANT CHARLOTTE!...NEVER THOUGHT THAT THING COULD LOOK ANY MORE RIGID LOPSIDED AND PLASTIC SINCE THE SHOW ERA. I saw the new Godzilla movie and I've been thinking about it all weekend!
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Dec 2, 2023 22:30:22 GMT -5
We aren’t really going down this road of “Wrestler is racist for being booked to fake win a fake wrestling match over a wrestler of a racial minority”, are we? Please tell me we’re not, because that’s a fast-track right to nobody taking your opinion in any way seriously.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 3, 2023 10:43:05 GMT -5
Real interesting how it felt lastnight that IYO might have underminded even Dakota because she was initially the one who suggested for Bayley to be out there with KAIRI only for IYO to basically put her foot down and tell Bayley to stay in the back. Once IYO took charge , Dakota basically followed her lead...it is like IYO just lets Dakota do what she do but once IYO speaks up Dakota shows she follows her. And it is the first time I can remember where IYO took serious charge like that and everyone basically followed her and the look on Bayleys face is her struggling to accept her power is steadily slipping away. It’s funny because prior to this past Smackdown it felt like the modus operandi of Damage Ctrl was to string Bayley along before finally plunging the dagger into her when her usefulness came to an end. But it seems, particularly with the OG 3, that they each have their own motives. Bayley is trying to put on a “brave face” and act like everything’s fine, but we can plainly see how sad and upset she is by being isolated and abandoned by everyone(like in the earlier segment where Bayley was upset that they didn’t bring her along when they confronted Bianca)and is trying to show everyone that she can help and be a contributing member of the faction. However the more she tries, the more they push her away. IYO is very antagonistic and hostile towards Bayley as evidenced by those 2 backstage segments. Demanding to know why she wasn’t with them when they confronted Bianca and then later interrupting Dakota’s conversation with Bayley and ordering her to stay behind. She definitely views Bayley as a liability with her constant refusal to follow orders and get involved. Dakota is the one caught in the middle. In the earlier segment she tried to bridge the gap between both sides by having Bayley come out with Kairi so she can feel like she’s still part of the team. And later when Bayley was acting all mopey and depressed, Dakota went from happily hyping up Kairi to being worried and concerned about Bayley. Even though she did fall-in-line with IYO, she still gave Bayley a reassuring pat on the back of support. So you got Bayley who's trying to show everyone that she can still be a valuable and contributing member of the group; IYO, who views Bayley as a liability and wants to get rid of Bayley; and then there's Dakota who wants to keep Bayley around and is desperately trying to mend the cracks within. It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes because it seems like those 3 are the main actors in this play.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 11:16:24 GMT -5
Real interesting how it felt lastnight that IYO might have underminded even Dakota because she was initially the one who suggested for Bayley to be out there with KAIRI only for IYO to basically put her foot down and tell Bayley to stay in the back. Once IYO took charge , Dakota basically followed her lead...it is like IYO just lets Dakota do what she do but once IYO speaks up Dakota shows she follows her. And it is the first time I can remember where IYO took serious charge like that and everyone basically followed her and the look on Bayleys face is her struggling to accept her power is steadily slipping away. It’s funny because prior to this past Smackdown it felt like the modus operandi of Damage Ctrl was to string Bayley along before finally plunging the dagger into her when her usefulness came to an end. But it seems, particularly with the OG 3, that they each have their own motives. Bayley is trying to put on a “brave face” and act like everything’s fine, but we can plainly see how sad and upset she is by being isolated and abandoned by everyone(like in the earlier segment where Bayley was upset that they didn’t bring her along when they confronted Bianca)and is trying to show everyone that she can help and be a contributing member of the faction. However the more she tries, the more they push her away. IYO is very antagonistic and hostile towards Bayley as evidenced by those 2 backstage segments. Demanding to know why she wasn’t with them when they confronted Bianca and then later interrupting Dakota’s conversation with Bayley and ordering her to stay behind. She definitely views Bayley as a liability with her constant refusal to follow orders and get involved. Dakota is the one caught in the middle. In the earlier segment she tried to bridge the gap between both sides by having Bayley come out with Kairi so she can feel like she’s still part of the team. And later when Bayley was acting all mopey and depressed, Dakota went from happily hyping up Kairi to being worried and concerned about Bayley. Even though she did fall-in-line with IYO, she still gave Bayley a reassuring pat on the back of support. So you got Bayley who's trying to show everyone that she can still be a valuable and contributing member of the group; IYO, who views Bayley as a liability and wants to get rid of Bayley; and then there's Dakota who wants to keep Bayley around and is desperately trying to mend the cracks within. It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes because it seems like those 3 are the main actors in this play. The other factors here is Asuka and KAIRI and with that I mean lets go back to when Asuka joined DC , IYO nore KAIRI were aware...so like Asuka has always felt like a bit of a wild card playing along with things. It seems the least likely scenario...but what if Dakota split off with Bayley and KAIRI and Asuka split off back to just being the KABUKI warriors and IYO is left on her own. Again not likely the direction they are going but with all 3 of the OG Dmg Cntrl seemingly in this for different reasons it almost seems like it maybe could be a possibility that we see a faction split off multiple ways instead of just 1 and that would be a first right? a faction that splits multiple ways like that but I am probably wrong on that there had to be atleast 1 in history.
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