CM Punk 2023–? Return Thread: Bracelet Chaser Arc

[Some Guy]

Jan 17, 2024 1:06:07 GMT -5 Jedi-El of Tomorrow said:

Jan 16, 2024 17:31:07 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I have not seen anything from Punk in WWE that is different to how Punk looked when he first came into AEW

He was happy then, he was emotional then, he was rejuvenated then too, and he has been barely there to really gauge exactly how much he's feeling it and how happy and healthy he is in comparison to other times

Obviously I hope he is, so we don't have any further issues with the dude, but I think it's way too early to tell.

Yep, I've said it before, what's gonna happen the first time that Punk faces some adversity or somebody doesn't want to completely listen to him? For the first 6 months in AEW he was happy and everything looked to be good, but then one little line from Hangman and he lost his mind. The guy thought one chop from Hangman was too stiff, what's gonna happen when he faces Drew or Gunther?

I feel like this is the 90th time this has been explained but Punk does not care if he faces stiff shots. He faced Joe a lot and Joe is very stiff. The issue with the Hangman punch was that he didn't trust Hangman going into the match and that's why he didn't like him punching him wrong. He won't care about Gunther or Drew or whatever being stiff because again, he will go in trusting them.

[Saiyanic Panic]

Page knife-edge chopped him in the mouth. Chipped one of his few remaining teeth when there were already bad feelings between both guys. I know I've had my turn poking fun but I'd be ticked off too.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 18, 2024 3:39:23 GMT -5 Saiyanic Panic said:

Page knife-edge chopped him in the mouth. Chipped one of his few remaining teeth when they were already bad feelings between both guys. I know I've had my turn poking fun but I'd be ticked off too.

It was still an accident he took personally and continued to take personally when that's all it was, Hangman wasn't trying to shoot on him

I get being upset it happened cause it was a mistake, but at the same time Punk didn't just get upset, it cascaded into a complete and total implosion we're all more then aware of at this point, and a deep seeded loathing of multiple people

It sucks, it really does, Punk went beyond rational thought after a point in AEW and I hope to everything that it doesn't happen here.

[Saiyanic Panic]

I want to see Punk get bodied by Gunther.

1) To show he doesn't necessarily implode upon impact.

2) It sounds like a good use of my TV time.

[Renslayer]

Jan 17, 2024 18:00:03 GMT -5 Abdullah said:

Jan 17, 2024 17:35:27 GMT -5 Venti said:

I think Punk will be fine in WWE.

He lasted around 7 years there before finally having enough, and that was after being burnt out on the constant grind, having a staph infection or whatever it was and being hurt. Plus, those were the days where folks like Vince, Ace, and Dunn were in charge.

Those guys all being gone will likely help matters. Especially if Punk and HHH let their past be water under the bridge.

And if they give him a part-timer, light schedule. By all means, do cool matches with him and stuff and get him in there with the newer opponents like in AEW.

But he doesn’t need to be all over the shows. I think, purely for the sake of enjoying him, it would be a mistake to have him a regular member of the roster like it’s 2012. I don’t think he can do that anymore.

I think what also helps is there's a lot more depth on the roster now as compared to 2012-2014. You can afford to rest him, let him do other things, etc.

[chazraps]

[Renslayer]

When we get punk & cody, 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[Lizuka #BLM]

So that promo basically consisted of...

Punk: I hope we can still be friends.
Cody: Agreed.
Punk: By the way you're a fraud and I live up to your dad more than you.
Cody: I am CM Punk.
Punk: GRRR.
Cody: GRRR.

[ChitownKnight]

Punk and Cody are perfect foils for eachother

[06vwgti]

"I can separate business from personal."

[HIM]

Tonight was the first night it felt like he was starting to show who he truly was. He and Cody work well off each other.

[Perd]

You know who's going to be upset on Sunday morning? Gunther, when he gets to the stadium and realizes the show was last night.

[Pooh Carlson]

Jan 22, 2024 23:35:40 GMT -5 06vwgti said:

"I can separate business from personal."

"I'm your friend but if I ever see you in the ring I can beat you, don't cha know, YEAH YEAH YEAH........ YOUR MUSTACHE IS CROOKED!"

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I'm sure Punk vs Cody will be a good match but I can't help but feel Punk is PAINFULLY one note since he came back from Brawl Out and honestly, even before it, since Hangman's feud, where it felt like a lot of his weaknesses have been more and more exposed as a person

He used to be very genuine and authentic and that was the hook to his entire persona and aura. Now that a lot of people are very aware of how inauthentic he actually is, when he says shit like "I can separate business from personal" just as a most recent example, it falls flat, because he's a f***ing hypocrite

So much shit CM Punk's said now has about two previous years of baggage to it where you can simply point and show he's either lying or completely fake in what he's trying to convey, and it's just dull to sit through because since he's returned to WWE it's felt about as one note as it gets, and I'm hoping maybe Cody can spark it into something more, but I'm not confident. It just feels kinda cooked and tiring to me right now.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 23, 2024 1:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm sure Punk vs Cody will be a good match but I can't help but feel Punk is PAINFULLY one note since he came back from Brawl Out and honestly, even before it, since Hangman's feud, where it felt like a lot of his weaknesses have been more and more exposed as a person

He used to be very genuine and authentic and that was the hook to his entire persona and aura. Now that a lot of people are very aware of how inauthentic he actually is, when he says shit like "I can separate business from personal" just as a most recent example, it falls flat, because he's a f***ing hypocrite

So much shit CM Punk's said now has about two previous years of baggage to it where you can simply point and show he's either lying or completely fake in what he's trying to convey, and it's just dull to sit through because since he's returned to WWE it's felt about as one note as it gets, and I'm hoping maybe Cody can spark it into something more, but I'm not confident. It just feels kinda cooked and tiring to me right now.

I don't disagree, but it seems like they've put somewhat of a muzzle on Punk to fit into what WWE is. The only reason "The Pipebomb" happened was because Punk was 100% leaving before he got serious mainstream coverage and forced WWE into having to resign him and give him what he wants.

You're right, it feels cooked. There's a nod and a wink for fans who follow the backstage goings on, you know, enough to tickle their balls, not enough to get them off. The average fan just likes seeing two stars interact.

Forgive the expression, but Punk is clearly in a place being run by adults and it shows.

[King Devitt: What Plants Crave]

Jan 23, 2024 1:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm sure Punk vs Cody will be a good match but I can't help but feel Punk is PAINFULLY one note since he came back from Brawl Out and honestly, even before it, since Hangman's feud, where it felt like a lot of his weaknesses have been more and more exposed as a person

He used to be very genuine and authentic and that was the hook to his entire persona and aura. Now that a lot of people are very aware of how inauthentic he actually is, when he says shit like "I can separate business from personal" just as a most recent example, it falls flat, because he's a f***ing hypocrite

So much shit CM Punk's said now has about two previous years of baggage to it where you can simply point and show he's either lying or completely fake in what he's trying to convey, and it's just dull to sit through because since he's returned to WWE it's felt about as one note as it gets, and I'm hoping maybe Cody can spark it into something more, but I'm not confident. It just feels kinda cooked and tiring to me right now.

oh wait, CM PUNK said that?!

I thought it being referenced a couple of posts above was a sick burn Cody gave to him.

No f***ing way Punk can say that with a straight face. Full on horse shit and there are plenty of public receipts to prove it.

Then again if he is playing a full of shit babyface I guess it tracks...

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 23, 2024 1:35:07 GMT -5 King Devitt: What Plants Crave said:

Jan 23, 2024 1:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm sure Punk vs Cody will be a good match but I can't help but feel Punk is PAINFULLY one note since he came back from Brawl Out and honestly, even before it, since Hangman's feud, where it felt like a lot of his weaknesses have been more and more exposed as a person

He used to be very genuine and authentic and that was the hook to his entire persona and aura. Now that a lot of people are very aware of how inauthentic he actually is, when he says shit like "I can separate business from personal" just as a most recent example, it falls flat, because he's a f***ing hypocrite

So much shit CM Punk's said now has about two previous years of baggage to it where you can simply point and show he's either lying or completely fake in what he's trying to convey, and it's just dull to sit through because since he's returned to WWE it's felt about as one note as it gets, and I'm hoping maybe Cody can spark it into something more, but I'm not confident. It just feels kinda cooked and tiring to me right now.

oh wait, CM PUNK said that?!

I thought it being referenced a couple of posts above was a sick burn Cody gave to him.

No f***ing way Punk can say that with a straight face. Full on horse shit and there are plenty of public receipts to prove it.

Then again if he is playing a full of shit babyface I guess it tracks...

Punk has made it very clear how it easy it is to work the fans because you're all still tied up in "he said this in 2011" and he said this "On AOW" and then he said this in "AEW", then said this on Raw.

He's making his money to look after himself and April or AJ or his wife, or whatever won't offend you, for the rest of their lives, which is what you should be doing.

This is why we're called marks.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 23, 2024 1:34:38 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Jan 23, 2024 1:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm sure Punk vs Cody will be a good match but I can't help but feel Punk is PAINFULLY one note since he came back from Brawl Out and honestly, even before it, since Hangman's feud, where it felt like a lot of his weaknesses have been more and more exposed as a person

He used to be very genuine and authentic and that was the hook to his entire persona and aura. Now that a lot of people are very aware of how inauthentic he actually is, when he says shit like "I can separate business from personal" just as a most recent example, it falls flat, because he's a f***ing hypocrite

So much shit CM Punk's said now has about two previous years of baggage to it where you can simply point and show he's either lying or completely fake in what he's trying to convey, and it's just dull to sit through because since he's returned to WWE it's felt about as one note as it gets, and I'm hoping maybe Cody can spark it into something more, but I'm not confident. It just feels kinda cooked and tiring to me right now.

I don't disagree, but it seems like they've put somewhat of a muzzle on Punk to fit into what WWE is. The only reason "The Pipebomb" happened was because Punk was 100% leaving before he got serious mainstream coverage and forced WWE into having to resign him and give him what he wants.

You're right, it feels cooked. There's a nod and a wink for fans who follow the backstage goings on, you know, enough to tickle their balls, not enough to get them off. The average fan just likes seeing two stars interact.

Forgive the expression, but Punk is clearly in a place being run by adults and it shows.

AEW's run fine, and it's continued to be run fine with plenty of older vets and younger talents

Just not a talent who thinks the galaxy of himself and turns into an absolute erupting sun when his way is even questioned

Granted, yes, Khan gave him way too much slack and that wasn't the right call. But Punk could have taken that slack and proven everyone wrong and not tied himself into a further knot and set the place on fire on the way out, and he just didn't. He acted like one of the most immature people I've honestly ever seen. In no avenue was he ever the bigger person, or trying to make the place better, just himself, and it showed

In WWE, it's his last real chance at the big time because of how hard he burned that bridge. He's not here because he wants to be, he's here because he has to be, and that's what makes everything he's said so tiring and hollow and contradictory to all the shit he said in AEW about WWE as well

You said it in another post, he'll do whatever he can to make money, he said it in his return promo. He cares about himself first and the world second outside of maybe his wife, Larry, and Ace Steel for some reason.

He'll always have a contingency of fans who cheer him no matter how hard he self destructs, so in reality as long as he behaves, which he'll be forced to in WWE, he'll likely end his career on a better note then he would have in AEW, and he needs that more then he could have ever admit. The damage is done and I don't think there's any repairing it, but he'll sure try and make the narrative as sugarcoated as he can... we'll see how long it truly lasts.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 23, 2024 1:54:03 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jan 23, 2024 1:34:38 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

I don't disagree, but it seems like they've put somewhat of a muzzle on Punk to fit into what WWE is. The only reason "The Pipebomb" happened was because Punk was 100% leaving before he got serious mainstream coverage and forced WWE into having to resign him and give him what he wants.

You're right, it feels cooked. There's a nod and a wink for fans who follow the backstage goings on, you know, enough to tickle their balls, not enough to get them off. The average fan just likes seeing two stars interact.

Forgive the expression, but Punk is clearly in a place being run by adults and it shows.

AEW's run fine, and it's continued to be run fine with plenty of older vets and younger talents

Just not a talent who thinks the galaxy of himself and turns into an absolute erupting sun when his way is even questioned

Granted, yes, Khan gave him way too much slack and that wasn't the right call. But Punk could have taken that slack and proven everyone wrong and not tied himself into a further knot and set the place on fire on the way out, and he just didn't. He acted like one of the most immature people I've honestly ever seen. In no avenue was he ever the bigger person, or trying to make the place better, just himself, and it showed

In WWE, it's his last real chance at the big time because of how hard he burned that bridge. He's not here because he wants to be, he's here because he has to be, and that's what makes everything he's said so tiring and hollow and contradictory to all the shit he said in AEW about WWE as well

You said it in another post, he'll do whatever he can to make money, he said it in his return promo. He cares about himself first and the world second outside of maybe his wife, Larry, and Ace Steel for some reason.

He'll always have a contingency of fans who cheer him no matter how hard he self destructs, so in reality as long as he behaves, which he'll be forced to in WWE, he'll likely end his career on a better note then he would have in AEW, and he needs that more then he could have ever admit. The damage is done and I don't think there's any repairing it, but he'll sure try and make the narrative as sugarcoated as he can... we'll see how long it truly lasts.

Self destructs what? The only way you can type something like that is if you became under the belief he was on your side instead of his own.

He's not your friend. He is a character on TV. You can hate or enjoy that as much as you like as much as you like or hate Mr Ed, Dennis the Menace, Homer Simpson, Al Bundy, that monkey from Friends, KITT, or whatever Pamela Andersons' tits were called.

Even if Punk is being authentic, he does not care about you.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 23, 2024 2:03:04 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Jan 23, 2024 1:54:03 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

AEW's run fine, and it's continued to be run fine with plenty of older vets and younger talents

Just not a talent who thinks the galaxy of himself and turns into an absolute erupting sun when his way is even questioned

Granted, yes, Khan gave him way too much slack and that wasn't the right call. But Punk could have taken that slack and proven everyone wrong and not tied himself into a further knot and set the place on fire on the way out, and he just didn't. He acted like one of the most immature people I've honestly ever seen. In no avenue was he ever the bigger person, or trying to make the place better, just himself, and it showed

In WWE, it's his last real chance at the big time because of how hard he burned that bridge. He's not here because he wants to be, he's here because he has to be, and that's what makes everything he's said so tiring and hollow and contradictory to all the shit he said in AEW about WWE as well

You said it in another post, he'll do whatever he can to make money, he said it in his return promo. He cares about himself first and the world second outside of maybe his wife, Larry, and Ace Steel for some reason.

He'll always have a contingency of fans who cheer him no matter how hard he self destructs, so in reality as long as he behaves, which he'll be forced to in WWE, he'll likely end his career on a better note then he would have in AEW, and he needs that more then he could have ever admit. The damage is done and I don't think there's any repairing it, but he'll sure try and make the narrative as sugarcoated as he can... we'll see how long it truly lasts.

Self destructs what? The only way you can type something like that is if you became under the belief he was on your side instead of his own.

He's not your friend. He is a character on TV. You can hate or enjoy that as much as you like as much as you like or hate Mr Ed, Dennis the Menace, Homer Simpson, Al Bundy, that monkey from Friends, KITT, or whatever Pamela Andersons' tits were called.

Even if Punk is being authentic, he does not care about you.

He doesn't need to be my friend for me to say he's self destructed before, like live on camera. And that's why I said if he does that again that's really it for him, and this is his last chance. Hence why I said this whole run feels so hollow and he feels on autopilot, because this is the position he himself put himself in.

He's not just "A character on TV I can like or hate", he's a very real person who has tried to altar the lives of other very real people in the places he's worked. He's not a fake character you can just handwave away either. He's not my friend, and I didn't say I cared about him

But I certainly care about the quality of the show I'm watching and how much he might effect it, like he has in the past and basically laughed it off only to get rewarded with yet another chance he doesn't deserve. There's a difference between a character that is fictional or even a character that is entirely separate from the actor. CM Punk is a more escalated version of Phil Brooks, and one of his whole things has always been how authentic he is, how REAL he is compared to other wresters "Playing pretend". Well if you wanna be real, then people are gonna judge you for when you f*** up in reality too since it's so close to how you play that character as CM Punk, as yourself. Especially when you show no growth or sign of change in learning from all the shit that he has done to get to this point.

And so far, that is what CM Punk is, and his on screen character by and large has suffered badly for it. Everything is one giant hypocritical shitpile. So I don't care if he doesn't care about me or isn't my friend, I think it's very fair to criticize him and doubt that he'll not self destruct again even in a more restrained place as WWE with the way he has acted on and off camera in the last two years, completely imploding his image and his perception to a lot of people.