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Post by Goldash #BLM on Nov 27, 2023 23:25:12 GMT -5
Promo was okay, it was fine. Nothing he hasn't done before and no controversy in the least. Perhaps his reference to the love he feels in the locker room is his "shot", but that could have meant anything.
This guy used to be my undisputed favorite. I still own his merch, even if it's shrunken from a decade of washes. But in 2023 I barely believe what he's saying. Maybe this is the "character" of CM Punk talking, the late-stage Punk who wants to put everyone and their mom over.
But this is the same guy who once said he was burnt out from the touring, that hated the micromanagement, that preferred Starbucks' health insurance. He's saying he's changed. HHH, supposedly the man who 'always hated' Punk, said as much about WWE itself.
I can't believe I'm going to use the most cliched line here...but I'm waiting to see how this plays out. Who knows where this will be by Mania.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 27, 2023 23:25:53 GMT -5
Didn't hate it, it was just very generic. I don't care to hear him taking shots at AEW anyway, both sides just need to move on. I’d bet a paycheck that Phil’s working under some kinda of NDA about his time in AEW. ‘Cause if anyone can get Phil to shut the f*** up it’s the Khan’s (most likely) God Tier attorneys and the fear of losing a buncha money for popping off at the mouth. If that's the case, it's a shame they couldn't shut his shit up with he was on their books.
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Post by Fade on Nov 27, 2023 23:26:07 GMT -5
Didn't hate it, it was just very generic. I don't care to hear him taking shots at AEW anyway, both sides just need to move on. I’d bet a paycheck that Phil’s working under some kinda of NDA about his time in AEW. ‘Cause if anyone can get Phil to shut the f*** up it’s the Khan’s (most likely) God Tier attorneys and the fear of losing a buncha money for popping off at the mouth. Yea I stayed offline today so I was surprised at the amount ppl thought he’d “shoot” regarding AEW
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 27, 2023 23:26:21 GMT -5
WWE running with that money line.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 27, 2023 23:26:54 GMT -5
Didn't care for that at all. It would've been a solid promo if he were a heel, but I didn't buy a single f***ing word of it as a sincere face. I thought that was the point. He was already called a hypocrite by Seth earlier. He's being fake/delusional about being back home for the fans but really it's about the spotlight/money. The mask fully slipped with the final line off-mic. I don't think that was supposed to be a promo for someone whose about to have a babyface run. I'd be shocked if he's not full heel by the Rumble. Well narrative wise anyways. Some crowds might still cheer him depending on the city.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 27, 2023 23:26:57 GMT -5
Didn't care for that at all. It would've been a solid promo if he were a heel, but I didn't buy a single f***ing word of it as a sincere face. He's pretty much just transplanted his late-AEW shtick wholesale into WWE, cause we were all obviously dying to see how that f***ing snooze-a-thon turned out. That said, if he unironically turns up next week with an Xed out version of Seth's belt then I might be back on board. Yeah, if I hadn't religiously watched every second of his AEW run I probably would've liked that promo more but to me it just felt like "Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, can't help but feel I've heard him say this before......"
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Post by HIM on Nov 27, 2023 23:27:57 GMT -5
Unless they're really not setting up Seth as the match, I think the promo would have been helped tremendously by Punk addressing Seth directly. Promo just felt aimless and like a rushed, low energy version of the AEW promos he did multiple times. But they are Seth addressed Punk in his promo saying he is ignoring him and focusing on his world title and CM Punk in his promo said everyone welcomed him back with open arms, well almost everyone They got a two month Rumble feud to build this on and potentially 4 months if this drags until Mania Yep, this. It's a slow burn from all sides. This is Punk in WWE. Dude's heel turn in 2012 was so slow people didn't even know he turned heel until Lawler had a heart attack. In this case the promo was subdued, pretty simple and to the point. He's here to do his job, make money and do what he can.
I'll also say the fact he's taking orders and toning stuff down is proof he's listening to them (at least now). Like, I'm glad we got this rather than some f*** You 5000 promo.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Nov 27, 2023 23:28:05 GMT -5
Didn't hate it, it was just very generic. I don't care to hear him taking shots at AEW anyway, both sides just need to move on. I’d bet a paycheck that Phil’s working under some kinda of NDA about his time in AEW. ‘Cause if anyone can get Phil to shut the f*** up it’s the Khan’s (most likely) God Tier attorneys and the fear of losing a buncha money for popping off at the mouth. Indeed, it seems like anyone who has ever met Tony Khan has an NDA of some kind, which I don't blame him for but is gonna make shoot interviews in the next 15 years pretty dull.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 27, 2023 23:28:10 GMT -5
Feel like I've jackknifed into a convo from Collision 5 months ago. Is he heel? Is he face? Who can tell? Do you actually care?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Nov 27, 2023 23:28:25 GMT -5
I’d bet a paycheck that Phil’s working under some kinda of NDA about his time in AEW. ‘Cause if anyone can get Phil to shut the f*** up it’s the Khan’s (most likely) God Tier attorneys and the fear of losing a buncha money for popping off at the mouth. If that's the case, it's a shame they couldn't shut his shit up with he was on their books. In this mental kayfabe/theory I’m betting that Shad’s attorneys were used on this one….which is just a hole different level of legal killer. The kinda dudes that bill out at, like, 10k an hour n shit.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 27, 2023 23:28:32 GMT -5
Didn't care for that at all. It would've been a solid promo if he were a heel, but I didn't buy a single f***ing word of it as a sincere face. I thought that was the point. He was already called a hypocrite by Seth earlier. He's being fake/delusional about being back home for the fans but really it's about the spotlight/money. The mask fully slipped with the final line off-mic. I don't think that was supposed to be a promo for someone whose about to have a babyface run. I'd be shocked if he's not full heel by the Rumble. Well narrative wise anyways. Some crowds might still cheer him depending on the city. To be fair, I was curling tonight and I got home in time to see Punk and that was it. I haven't seen anything else of Raw, or even read a recap yet. Didn't realize he had already been addressed on the show
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 27, 2023 23:28:39 GMT -5
WWE running with that money line. well that does make it better because the best way to go about this imo is delusional voice of the voiceless who is actually corporate and all about the money even for people who like cm punk i seriously doubt many found that to be authentic tonight
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Nov 27, 2023 23:29:05 GMT -5
WWE running with that money line. Sure. Because one of their writers wrote it for him.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 27, 2023 23:29:56 GMT -5
WWE running with that money line. well that does make it better because the best way to go about this imo is delusional voice of the voiceless who is actually corporate and all about the money even for people who like cm punk i seriously doubt many found that to be authentic tonight The hints are there. 2011 CM Punk would never want a separate locker room, he WAS the voice of the voiceless. 2023 CM Punk sold out. That's pretty clear.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 27, 2023 23:30:38 GMT -5
well that does make it better because the best way to go about this imo is delusional voice of the voiceless who is actually corporate and all about the money even for people who like cm punk i seriously doubt many found that to be authentic tonight The hints are there. 2011 CM Punk would never want a separate locker room, he WAS the voice of the voiceless. 2023 CM Punk sold out. That's pretty clear. keep the shooty stuff at a minimum and it could work, they already have a bajillion mega over faces
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Post by ToyfareMark on Nov 27, 2023 23:31:34 GMT -5
I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but this version of his shirt just sold out.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 27, 2023 23:32:20 GMT -5
I didn't see the promo so I can't say for sure, maybe it reads different than the AEW stuff, but if we're back into "Punk is hinting at a heel turn" territory and it turns out he's just kinda washed on the mic when he doesn't have a top notch feud to light a fire under his ass, then it's going to be the funniest shit. Compeltely inescapable. Time is a flat circle.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Nov 27, 2023 23:34:25 GMT -5
Yeah he's a delusional asshole who thinks he's a face despite being the most sanctimonious prick on the roster.
No clue what character he's playing doe
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 27, 2023 23:34:51 GMT -5
I didn't see the promo so I can't say for sure, maybe it reads different than the AEW stuff, but if we're back into "Punk is hinting at a heel turn" territory and it turns out he's just kinda washed on the mic when he doesn't have a top notch feud to light a fire under his ass, then it's going to be the funniest shit. Compeltely inescapable. Time is a flat circle. you should watch it, it's actually quite comical in a new way when you think about how the previous return promos were
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Post by Fade on Nov 27, 2023 23:35:35 GMT -5
Feel like I've jackknifed into a convo from Collision 5 months ago. Is he heel? Is he face? Who can tell? Do you actually care? Everyone’s clinging to the “I’m not here to make friends, I’m here to make money” line. A.) that seemed improvised more than “part of the character”. He was playing Mr Wholesome guy the whole time. B.) if it is, wooof. Punks just being punk but if that’s the case punk is an a guy trying to play John Cena when he’s really punk. Crowd want the asshole. Ppl are right, that was his collision run and reaction.
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