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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 27, 2023 23:35:43 GMT -5
They are going to make so much money this Christmas with that shirt.
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Post by Perd on Nov 27, 2023 23:36:12 GMT -5
It’s just impossible not to consider almost everything he said after he left. So the whole welcoming home the prodigal thing just falls flat. Because you know, if this goes sour, he’ll be cutting a promo, at whatever company will have him, talking shit about WWE and telling the crowd that this is where he’s meant to be. I know it’s pro wrestling. It’s almost entirely built on bullshit. But a person's markeom can only be stretched so far.
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Post by Fade on Nov 27, 2023 23:36:38 GMT -5
I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but this version of his shirt just sold out. Insane.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 27, 2023 23:37:24 GMT -5
To be fair the last time he was doing a deluded face thing that people thought was leading to a heel turn he got fired before they could get to the full turn part (if that was how it was supposed to play out in AEW) so I wouldn't blame some people being sceptical that he's actually going to end up heel.
I think that's the plan though. It'll be interesting to see if fans play along if that's the case and cheer Seth/boo Punk or if the novelty of Punk being just back will result in him being cheered no matter what.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 27, 2023 23:37:50 GMT -5
It’s just impossible not to consider almost everything he said after he left. So the whole welcoming home the prodigal thing just falls flat. Because you know, if this goes sour, he’ll be cutting a promo, at whatever company will have him, talking shit about WWE and telling the crowd that this is where he’s meant to be. I know it’s pro wrestling. It’s almost entirely built on bullshit. But a person's markeom can only be stretched so far. Then call me Reed Richard because... I hope Elizabeth Olsen kicks my ass?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 27, 2023 23:40:24 GMT -5
To be fair the last time he was doing a deluded face thing that people thought was leading to a heel turn he got fired before they could get to the full turn part (if that was how it was supposed to play out in AEW) so I wouldn't blame some people being sceptical that he's actually going to end up heel. I think that's the plan though. It'll be interesting to see if fans play along if that's the case and cheer Seth/boo Punk or if the novelty of Punk being just back will result in him being cheered no matter what. kinda felt like the crowd themselves weren't really into it for a bit there or were waiting for something to happen a fast tracked heel turn might work
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Nov 27, 2023 23:41:36 GMT -5
That promo had no passion or soul.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 27, 2023 23:41:49 GMT -5
It’s just impossible not to consider almost everything he said after he left. So the whole welcoming home the prodigal thing just falls flat. Because you know, if this goes sour, he’ll be cutting a promo, at whatever company will have him, talking shit about WWE and telling the crowd that this is where he’s meant to be. I know it’s pro wrestling. It’s almost entirely built on bullshit. But a person's markeom can only be stretched so far. Yeah, he basically cut almost the same promo in AEW only taking a few shots at WWE there... and buying people Ice cream... He'll show up in NWA talking about how dumb the Khans are and HHH and how now he's free to be the real him!
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Post by crazydom on Nov 27, 2023 23:42:25 GMT -5
I think the fact that the promo just had such obvious lies like Punk hinting everyone was so happy to see him (besides that evil Seth of course) made it fall flat. Punk is at his best when he's blurring the lines between reality and kayfabe. He could have done the "I love the fans" stuff without the rest of the promo falling into such cheesy bullshit.
It's what makes his final lines even weirder, because his final lines seemed more like the guy who came back to Collision and gave that first promo (and say what you will but that promo was a trillion times better than this), but everything before that didn't have the same tone.
And maybe that's the point and he's turning heel? But I honestly doubt it.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Nov 27, 2023 23:46:25 GMT -5
Hopefully the Punk shirt shows up on euroshop because it would cost me $70 otherwise
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 27, 2023 23:48:39 GMT -5
That promo had no passion or soul. Something something Cody Rhodes.
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Post by lockedontarget on Nov 27, 2023 23:50:43 GMT -5
His entire AEW run was “hey he’s kinda being an asshole this is totally leading to a big heel turn” but he kinda just kept on being the big face that wins every feud.
It was a lot like Cody’s AEW run, really.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
We live in a world where a lot of people see “telling it like it is” and being an arrogant jerk as an admirable trait. We live in a world where a lot of people use the term “All Friends Wrestling” as a derisive name for AEW. We live in a world where a lot of people justify the WWE becoming a willing arm of the Saudi propaganda machine because it makes them money.
I think there’s a good chance that Punk thinks being the edgy guy who cares about making bank and isn’t afraid to be cruel makes him a cool badass hero and there’s plenty of fans that will buy into that.
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Post by khali on Nov 27, 2023 23:50:54 GMT -5
Aw yeah, we’re already unsure if he’s teasing a heel turn or just really lacking in self awareness. All we need is for him to carry around a mysterious bag again and we’re at peak Collision CM Punk. Tell me when I’m telling lies.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 27, 2023 23:56:00 GMT -5
What do CM Punk and Beth Pheonix have in common? No passion.
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Post by raymondo316 on Nov 27, 2023 23:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Nov 27, 2023 23:59:13 GMT -5
can we change the thread title to CM PUNK IS BACK JACK, YET TO BE SACKED
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2023 0:00:22 GMT -5
It’s just impossible not to consider almost everything he said after he left. So the whole welcoming home the prodigal thing just falls flat. Because you know, if this goes sour, he’ll be cutting a promo, at whatever company will have him, talking shit about WWE and telling the crowd that this is where he’s meant to be. I know it’s pro wrestling. It’s almost entirely built on bullshit. But a person's markeom can only be stretched so far. Yeah, he basically cut almost the same promo in AEW only taking a few shots at WWE there... and buying people Ice cream... He'll show up in NWA talking about how dumb the Khans are and HHH and how now he's free to be the real him! I feel like if the WWE run goes tits up, he probably goes to TNA next. NJPW would sound like the move for money, but Steel's in Impact, and he comes off as really blatantly indifferent and ignorant as to the Japanese wrestling scene. Obviously, TNA cannot pay him AEW or WWE money, but they're probably closer to something he can justify to himself than MLW or NWA, and if he isn't going to likely care about going to Japan, I doubt Mexico is going to be any more enticing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2023 0:02:12 GMT -5
His entire AEW run was “hey he’s kinda being an asshole this is totally leading to a big heel turn” but he kinda just kept on being the big face that wins every feud. It was a lot like Cody’s AEW run, really. I’ll believe it when I see it. We live in a world where a lot of people see “telling it like it is” and being an arrogant jerk as an admirable trait. We live in a world where a lot of people use the term “All Friends Wrestling” as a derisive name for AEW. We live in a world where a lot of people justify the WWE becoming a willing arm of the Saudi propaganda machine because it makes them money. I think there’s a good chance that Punk thinks being the edgy guy who cares about making bank and isn’t afraid to be cruel makes him a cool badass hero and there’s plenty of fans that will buy into that. Cody at least let people like Sting, Jake Roberts, etc, take him down a peg and put people over, even if it didn't go where it could have or should have. Punk's was a lot more selfish by comparison.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 28, 2023 0:02:30 GMT -5
Oh man, I don't miss MJF trying to make "PG Punk" a thing. 😂
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Post by Fade on Nov 28, 2023 0:02:34 GMT -5
Headshot, MJF time traveler confirmed. The things is the act was working for the most part in early AEW but the elite stuff hurt him just as much as it hurt everyone else. The mask is off so to speak.
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