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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 12:34:04 GMT -5
It’s a bizarre punt on the question either way. All he has to say is “I’d rather not comment on it, but I wish him well.” Simple. Whether he actually wishes him well or not is irrelevant. Just say it and move on. Instead, you come across like a drama queen when you freak out and say “I CANT SAY ANYTHING! ITS IN LEGAL! CANT TALK, WONT TALK, ALL IN LONDON” Wow really? If he legally can't talk about it that would be an accurate response wouldn't it? Even if he can't legally talk about it, there's a better response than "I can't legally talk about this matter." That tone makes THAT the headline and now folks are spinning about it. Something as simple as: "I can't really go into too much detail, I wish him well, but I'm here to talk about our next big AEW PPV, etc. etc." That doesn't break an NDA. Tony is a terrible f***ing spokesperson when he gets into territory that is even remotely awkward. I feel pretty confident that he's prob not taking advice from his PR folks.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 28, 2023 12:37:12 GMT -5
I feel like banning him is kind of a slippery slope because he's not a bullshit artist/bad person quite like the folks over at Ringside News, but I definitely take what he says with a big ol' grain of salt My honest read on the guy after also having seen him in the NWA thread and how he writes about stuff there is that he's actually just kind of a gullible weirdo who has trouble understanding how to vet the things his sources says and repeating the sort of stuff better reporters have a good sense on filtering out. He kinda just reports everything he's told instead of running it through any sort of filter or leaving things on the table that aren't necessary. Which works really well for Punk getting his inner monologue out to the world that way and letting the details like buying people Nandos after the show become the main takeaways from his reporting. Pair it with a style that comes off at once too florid for wrestling journalism but also not compellingly capable of doing interesting things with his words, and you get a dude whose every report seems just packed full of mistakes even a message board full of people can generally tell is just sort of off. Which is all to say, he's not a grifter, and he's maybe actually too sincere, earnest, gullible, and proud of his work to actually become some Xero News bullshit, but don't take him very seriously anyway because he all of those things combine to make for a dude who is absolutely getting taken for a ride by every source. I think some of the perception comes from that for quite a few of us, our first exposure to him was his role as the launching point in the Gripebomb. You'd think after how that went down, he wouldn't want much to do with Punk. But then he let Punk lead him along by the nose through everything that came after, and it comes off a certain kind of way.
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Post by uewfigfed on Nov 28, 2023 12:37:49 GMT -5
Wow really? If he legally can't talk about it that would be an accurate response wouldn't it? Even if he can't legally talk about it, there's a better response than "I can't legally talk about this matter." That tone makes THAT the headline and now folks are spinning about it. Something as simple as: "I can't really go into too much detail, I wish him well, but I'm here to talk about our next big AEW PPV, etc. etc." That doesn't break an NDA. Tony is a terrible f***ing spokesperson when he gets into territory that is even remotely awkward. I feel pretty confident that he's prob not taking advice from his PR folks. Look at what you’ve written out, then look how much shorter just saying what the fact is. Some of y’all are just out for blood, it’s crazy
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 12:39:35 GMT -5
Even if he can't legally talk about it, there's a better response than "I can't legally talk about this matter." That tone makes THAT the headline and now folks are spinning about it. Something as simple as: "I can't really go into too much detail, I wish him well, but I'm here to talk about our next big AEW PPV, etc. etc." That doesn't break an NDA. Tony is a terrible f***ing spokesperson when he gets into territory that is even remotely awkward. I feel pretty confident that he's prob not taking advice from his PR folks. Look at what you’ve written out, then look how much shorter just saying what the fact is. Some of y’all are just out for blood, it’s crazy I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." People cued in immediately on the "legal" part of the comment and it's how he always does it. It always has the same result. That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood.
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Post by uewfigfed on Nov 28, 2023 12:41:33 GMT -5
Look at what you’ve written out, then look how much shorter just saying what the fact is. Some of y’all are just out for blood, it’s crazy I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood. Well I’m this instance, this executive chose to speak plainly, cest la vie.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 12:43:43 GMT -5
I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood. Well I’m this instance, this executive chose to speak plainly, cest la vie. Yep, shit happens. Have a good day.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 28, 2023 12:50:45 GMT -5
Even if he can't legally talk about it, there's a better response than "I can't legally talk about this matter." That tone makes THAT the headline and now folks are spinning about it. Something as simple as: "I can't really go into too much detail, I wish him well, but I'm here to talk about our next big AEW PPV, etc. etc." That doesn't break an NDA. Tony is a terrible f***ing spokesperson when he gets into territory that is even remotely awkward. I feel pretty confident that he's prob not taking advice from his PR folks. Look at what you’ve written out, then look how much shorter just saying what the fact is. Some of y’all are just out for blood, it’s crazy Tony Khan created competition to WWE, therefore he is a terrible person and deserves bad things.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 28, 2023 12:52:56 GMT -5
CM Punk is reportedly “a chill hang” and “willing to share his snacks with friends.”
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 12:53:24 GMT -5
CM Punk is reportedly “a chill hang” and “willing to share his snacks with friends.” "He leaves free Spindrifts and muffins for everyone."
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Post by Stu on Nov 28, 2023 12:59:59 GMT -5
Look at what you’ve written out, then look how much shorter just saying what the fact is. Some of y’all are just out for blood, it’s crazy I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." People cued in immediately on the "legal" part of the comment and it's how he always does it. It always has the same result. That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood. As a professional journalist, I get what you're saying. Your version would make us think "Meh, Tony gave a stereotypical PR response" and, at most, try to get him to explain why he can't comment. But his version would make us immediately think "There's an NDA. We need to figure out its terms and how those work."
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 13:08:38 GMT -5
I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." People cued in immediately on the "legal" part of the comment and it's how he always does it. It always has the same result. That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood. As a professional journalist, I get what you're saying. Your version would make us think "Meh, Tony gave a stereotypical PR response" and, at most, try to get him to explain why he can't comment. But his version would make us immediately think "There's an NDA. We need to figure out its terms and how those work." Right, what he does just invites more questions. It wasn't meant to be a critique of Tony as a person, just something I noticed about his behavior. For a billionaire, Tony does genuinely seem like a nice person with a good heart, I think sometimes there are certain situations where he just can't get out of his own way. Anyways, back to Punk in WWE.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 28, 2023 13:09:34 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that we don't have any dirtsheet news about what he ate at catering last night.
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Post by uewfigfed on Nov 28, 2023 13:15:04 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that we don't have any dirtsheet news about what he ate at catering last night. Or what kinda gift cards he gave to the women’s roster
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 28, 2023 13:17:13 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that we don't have any dirtsheet news about what he ate at catering last night. Muffins of course
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 28, 2023 13:21:36 GMT -5
So there's been a debate here.
Did you like the original Cult of Personality he used from 2011-2014 or the new 2023 remastered version for his second run?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 28, 2023 13:22:46 GMT -5
I feel like Tony can't really win here. If he goes into further detail he'd be a petty bitch who can't take it that Punk has gone. I think his answer was exactly what it needed to be. Shuts down conversation and invites no follow-up questions
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Post by Fade on Nov 28, 2023 13:23:38 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that we don't have any dirtsheet news about what he ate at catering last night. Or what kinda gift cards he gave to the women’s roster Target or Starbucks; bonus if it’s both cuz most targets got a sbux in them.
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Post by uewfigfed on Nov 28, 2023 13:28:22 GMT -5
So there's been a debate here. Did you like the original Cult of Personality he used from 2011-2014 or the new 2023 remastered version for his second run? I’m a sucker for the dirtier sound of the classic, but that’s any song really. You ever hear the re-recording of ruff ryders anthem!? Yikes lol
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Nov 28, 2023 13:30:17 GMT -5
I work in public relations and provided my opinion on the statement based on how I've prepared executives to talk with press. The tone of the statement I gave is more positive than "oh, I can't talk about it legally." People cued in immediately on the "legal" part of the comment and it's how he always does it. It always has the same result. That's all I'm saying. I'm not out for blood. As a professional journalist, I get what you're saying. Your version would make us think "Meh, Tony gave a stereotypical PR response" and, at most, try to get him to explain why he can't comment. But his version would make us immediately think "There's an NDA. We need to figure out its terms and how those work." As someone who also works in PR/comms, I thought that Tony was actively trying to say "there's a lot I want to say but I can't". Which is never what I'd suggest but some clients/execs want to cause a shitstorm
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Post by Andew9001 on Nov 28, 2023 13:31:15 GMT -5
CM Punk is reportedly “a chill hang” and “willing to share his snacks with friends.” Bht are those snacks chips or crisps?
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