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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Dec 17, 2023 17:12:42 GMT -5
Cousin Mel poisoned Grandma's homemade fruitcakes, which caused her get run over by a reindeer in the first place. She found and hid the note Santa left, explaining the situation, causing the family to believe Grandma was dead. She then tried to convince a grieving Grandpa to sell the store, then when Grandma turned up alive, she and her lawyer kidnapped her and hid her way, then convinced Grandpa to sue Santa for her disappearance. I think Uncle Frank has some competition. And don't forget the absolute auditory torture that is the "Grandpa's gonna sue the pants off of Santa" song, that alone is enough to push her over the top.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Dec 17, 2023 18:37:46 GMT -5
Cousin Mel poisoned Grandma's homemade fruitcakes, which caused her get run over by a reindeer in the first place. She found and hid the note Santa left, explaining the situation, causing the family to believe Grandma was dead. She then tried to convince a grieving Grandpa to sell the store, then when Grandma turned up alive, she and her lawyer kidnapped her and hid her way, then convinced Grandpa to sue Santa for her disappearance. I think Uncle Frank has some competition. And don't forget the absolute auditory torture that is the "Grandpa's gonna sue the pants off of Santa" song, that alone is enough to push her over the top. I was thinking about that lol almost included it, but opted to keep things joke free.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 17, 2023 20:40:39 GMT -5
Sam The Butcher cheated on Alice for a younger woman.
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Post by Andew9001 on Dec 17, 2023 21:09:08 GMT -5
The conciege from Home Alone 2 was a bigger heel. He went into a guests room without permission and confronted a child who stole a credit card just to make himself feel good about being right instead of calling the police first. Franks a dick and a cheapskate but the conciege was on a different level. Nah, I mostly side with the concierge. He obviously overstepped his authority by sneaking into a room but he technically was within his limits to do so if he suspected something was amiss. The fact that Kevin concocted a scheme to scare him when Kevin could have easily called him out on sneaking into other people's rooms. If anything, the concierge was dumb in not waiting until Kevin was on his little limo cruise to inspect his room and notice a lack of adult luggage. And eventually the concierge was proven right. Once he confronted Kevin on the stolen credit card, Kevin could have easily just stayed there and explained the situation, AND potentially nabbed the Sticky Bandits with the help of the police. Instead, Kevin stages a terror threat at the hotel and immediately lands in the hands of the Sticky Bandits. Heck, Kevin could have again caught the Sticky Bandits in the act of robbing the toy store with the help of the police if he decided to, but he felt the need to physically punish them, some acts that would otherwise kill a normal person. In both situations, Kevin almost got murdered by trying to go at it alone, only to bailed out by a stranger. No sympathy. Guy could've gotten the limo driver to bring him back to the hotel and into the arms of the police. Instead he called the limo back, left a child alone in the middle of New York and confronted him just so he could be smug about being right that Kevin was lieing. Remember he was all smug when Kevins parents finally turned up. "I made the discovery." Thinking about it though everyone is kind of a dick in Home Alone 2. Buzz is a dick at the recital, all the family take his side, the Bandits want to rob from sick children, the hotel staff are all either a combination of dumb, smug or rude and Kevins traps went from being innocent and fun to downright attempted murder. Still my favourite Christmas movie.
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Post by tirtefaa on Dec 17, 2023 21:36:14 GMT -5
Thinking about it though everyone is kind of a dick in Home Alone 2. Buzz is a dick at the recital, all the family take his side, the Bandits want to rob from sick children, the hotel staff are all either a combination of dumb, smug or rude and Kevins traps went from being innocent and fun to downright attempted murder. Still my favourite Christmas movie. The first movie works because Kevin is mostly innocent. There's a few things he could have handled better, but for the most part it's all in the beginning. Only thing I didn't like Kevin doing was him antagonizing the pizza delivery guy, who didn't do anything to him. The second movie? While Kevin didn't start the issue at the Christmas recital, he magnified it, up to where a prop fell on an innocent woman's head, potentially injuring her. He should have been apologetic just for that. In the first movie, he was reactionary in the moment because his pizza was eaten, a totally understandable reaction for any kid. In the second movie, he got all the way back to the house where he let Buzz still get his goat. Then when he gets on the plane, he rudely puts his headphones on while someone is trying to talk to him, thus missing the announcement about his destination. So now he's in New York. He can very easily explain the situation and hopefully get reconnected to his family. This isn't like the first movie where there was a small part of him that thought his family disappeared, it's a situation he could control. So what's he do? He takes a cab to go into the city. Kevin then books a luxurious hotel room, draws attention to himself multiple times. As I already mentioned, Kevin creates elaborate traps that make situations worse. Again, simply going to the authorities who are alluded to multiple times throughout the film, but Kevin puts his own health in danger. And the worst part of it is that he's rewarded for it. First movie is great. I've grown to hate the second movie.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 17, 2023 21:56:29 GMT -5
Phil Hartman in Jingle All The Way makes Uncle Frank look like Cindy Lou Who. Phil Hartman in Jingle All The Way was more of a perv.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 17, 2023 22:27:01 GMT -5
Thinking about it though everyone is kind of a dick in Home Alone 2. Buzz is a dick at the recital, all the family take his side, the Bandits want to rob from sick children, the hotel staff are all either a combination of dumb, smug or rude and Kevins traps went from being innocent and fun to downright attempted murder. Still my favourite Christmas movie. The first movie works because Kevin is mostly innocent. There's a few things he could have handled better, but for the most part it's all in the beginning. Only thing I didn't like Kevin doing was him antagonizing the pizza delivery guy, who didn't do anything to him. The second movie? While Kevin didn't start the issue at the Christmas recital, he magnified it, up to where a prop fell on an innocent woman's head, potentially injuring her. He should have been apologetic just for that. In the first movie, he was reactionary in the moment because his pizza was eaten, a totally understandable reaction for any kid. In the second movie, he got all the way back to the house where he let Buzz still get his goat. Then when he gets on the plane, he rudely puts his headphones on while someone is trying to talk to him, thus missing the announcement about his destination. So now he's in New York. He can very easily explain the situation and hopefully get reconnected to his family. This isn't like the first movie where there was a small part of him that thought his family disappeared, it's a situation he could control. So what's he do? He takes a cab to go into the city. Kevin then books a luxurious hotel room, draws attention to himself multiple times. As I already mentioned, Kevin creates elaborate traps that make situations worse. Again, simply going to the authorities who are alluded to multiple times throughout the film, but Kevin puts his own health in danger. And the worst part of it is that he's rewarded for it. First movie is great. I've grown to hate the second movie. If the pizza guy thought he was being shot at, wouldn't he have called the cops? And they had gone out there once before when Kate first called the police, that should have been evidence that somebody was home. Also, something that never seems to get brought up: they have a doggy door (through which Kevin attacks the Wet Bandits with the BB gun), but where was the dog?
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Post by tirtefaa on Dec 17, 2023 22:35:08 GMT -5
If the pizza guy thought he was being shot at, wouldn't he have called the cops? And they had gone out there once before when Kate first called the police, that should have been evidence that somebody was home. Also, something that never seems to get brought up: they have a doggy door (through which Kevin attacks the Wet Bandits with the BB gun), but where was the dog? Yeah, the pizza guy was a funny gag, but it's not in Kevin's character to do that without provocation. Maybe if the pizza guy was prying into the house or something, but as it stands, yeah it could cause more issues for Kevin than solve. I think the dog thing was either a deleted scene or something that was in the script that never got filmed from what I remember.
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Post by fg on Dec 17, 2023 23:44:19 GMT -5
The conciege from Home Alone 2 was a bigger heel. He went into a guests room without permission and confronted a child who stole a credit card just to make himself feel good about being right instead of calling the police first. Franks a dick and a cheapskate but the conciege was on a different level. Not to mention on a side note, the concierge were the finest idiots in New York. When they thought that Kevin’s Dad had a machine gun (Unbeknownst to them they were listening to a fictional movie), they ran out the door, ducked as “machine gun fire” was heard and NOT ONE of them called the cops. The head concierge said to the guests (who also heard the “machine gun fire” and also not called the cops): “STAY IN YOUR ROOMS! THERES AN INSANE GUEST WITH A GUN!” Ok, I can understand warning the guests but not calling the cops?
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Post by fg on Dec 17, 2023 23:45:37 GMT -5
If the pizza guy thought he was being shot at, wouldn't he have called the cops? And they had gone out there once before when Kate first called the police, that should have been evidence that somebody was home. Also, something that never seems to get brought up: they have a doggy door (through which Kevin attacks the Wet Bandits with the BB gun), but where was the dog? Yeah, the pizza guy was a funny gag, but it's not in Kevin's character to do that without provocation. Maybe if the pizza guy was prying into the house or something, but as it stands, yeah it could cause more issues for Kevin than solve. I think the dog thing was either a deleted scene or something that was in the script that never got filmed from what I remember. It’s also possible that they had a dog but it died or ran away before the movie started.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Dec 18, 2023 0:42:44 GMT -5
The first movie works because Kevin is mostly innocent. There's a few things he could have handled better, but for the most part it's all in the beginning. Only thing I didn't like Kevin doing was him antagonizing the pizza delivery guy, who didn't do anything to him. The second movie? While Kevin didn't start the issue at the Christmas recital, he magnified it, up to where a prop fell on an innocent woman's head, potentially injuring her. He should have been apologetic just for that. In the first movie, he was reactionary in the moment because his pizza was eaten, a totally understandable reaction for any kid. In the second movie, he got all the way back to the house where he let Buzz still get his goat. Then when he gets on the plane, he rudely puts his headphones on while someone is trying to talk to him, thus missing the announcement about his destination. So now he's in New York. He can very easily explain the situation and hopefully get reconnected to his family. This isn't like the first movie where there was a small part of him that thought his family disappeared, it's a situation he could control. So what's he do? He takes a cab to go into the city. Kevin then books a luxurious hotel room, draws attention to himself multiple times. As I already mentioned, Kevin creates elaborate traps that make situations worse. Again, simply going to the authorities who are alluded to multiple times throughout the film, but Kevin puts his own health in danger. And the worst part of it is that he's rewarded for it. First movie is great. I've grown to hate the second movie. If the pizza guy thought he was being shot at, wouldn't he have called the cops? And they had gone out there once before when Kate first called the police, that should have been evidence that somebody was home. Also, something that never seems to get brought up: they have a doggy door (through which Kevin attacks the Wet Bandits with the BB gun), but where was the dog? It’s easy to miss, but near the beginning of the film when Kate is talking on the phone, she says “no we’re not bringing the dog we’re putting him in a kennel—hey hey hey! Kevin, out of the room!”
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Dec 18, 2023 5:21:42 GMT -5
(without getting too political) Nowadays modern audiences can handwave away all the wackiness at Plaza Hotel in Home Alone 2 when they realize which polarizing public figure legit owned the place.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 18, 2023 9:19:45 GMT -5
I’d say they goes to whoever plays the music at the malls.
In all seriousness, I’ve heard that in an early draft of the script there was going to be more explanation for why the McCallister’ are loaded, that they are from generational wealth, but Frank got written out, hence his asshole behavior throughout the movie. And in the end it would be revealed that he hired the burglars to ransack his brothers house out of spite.
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Post by Rise on Dec 18, 2023 15:15:26 GMT -5
Just watched both Home Alone's for the first time in years. Uncle Frank is amazing
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 18, 2023 16:22:40 GMT -5
Considering that an original idea for the first movie was for Frank to have hired the Wet Bandits to rob Peter, yeah, I'd say Frank sucks
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 18, 2023 19:20:13 GMT -5
Considering that an original idea for the first movie was for Frank to have hired the Wet Bandits to rob Peter, yeah, I'd say Frank sucks I could see a version where Frank hired them to rob his own house as part of an insurance scam, and Kevin got left behind at his place, ultimately exposing him. But ultimately having him go to New York was a more marketable idea, and Macaulay would’ve been too old for a third sequel that did that.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 19, 2023 0:21:08 GMT -5
The conciege from Home Alone 2 was a bigger heel. He went into a guests room without permission and confronted a child who stole a credit card just to make himself feel good about being right instead of calling the police first. Franks a dick and a cheapskate but the conciege was on a different level. Not to mention on a side note, the concierge were the finest idiots in New York. When they thought that Kevin’s Dad had a machine gun (Unbeknownst to them they were listening to a fictional movie), they ran out the door, ducked as “machine gun fire” was heard and NOT ONE of them called the cops. The head concierge said to the guests (who also heard the “machine gun fire” and also not called the cops): “STAY IN YOUR ROOMS! THERES AN INSANE GUEST WITH A GUN!” Ok, I can understand warning the guests but not calling the cops? If I'm given to understand NYC in the early 90's, open gunfire was pretty routine, sunrise, sunset.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Dec 19, 2023 9:13:26 GMT -5
Thinking about it though everyone is kind of a dick in Home Alone 2. Buzz is a dick at the recital, all the family take his side, the Bandits want to rob from sick children, the hotel staff are all either a combination of dumb, smug or rude and Kevins traps went from being innocent and fun to downright attempted murder. Still my favourite Christmas movie. The first movie works because Kevin is mostly innocent. There's a few things he could have handled better, but for the most part it's all in the beginning. Only thing I didn't like Kevin doing was him antagonizing the pizza delivery guy, who didn't do anything to him. The second movie? While Kevin didn't start the issue at the Christmas recital, he magnified it, up to where a prop fell on an innocent woman's head, potentially injuring her. He should have been apologetic just for that. In the first movie, he was reactionary in the moment because his pizza was eaten, a totally understandable reaction for any kid. In the second movie, he got all the way back to the house where he let Buzz still get his goat. Then when he gets on the plane, he rudely puts his headphones on while someone is trying to talk to him, thus missing the announcement about his destination. So now he's in New York. He can very easily explain the situation and hopefully get reconnected to his family. This isn't like the first movie where there was a small part of him that thought his family disappeared, it's a situation he could control. So what's he do? He takes a cab to go into the city. Kevin then books a luxurious hotel room, draws attention to himself multiple times. As I already mentioned, Kevin creates elaborate traps that make situations worse. Again, simply going to the authorities who are alluded to multiple times throughout the film, but Kevin puts his own health in danger. And the worst part of it is that he's rewarded for it. First movie is great. I've grown to hate the second movie. The pizza guy didn't bring more cheese pizza.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Dec 19, 2023 20:22:55 GMT -5
The first movie works because Kevin is mostly innocent. There's a few things he could have handled better, but for the most part it's all in the beginning. Only thing I didn't like Kevin doing was him antagonizing the pizza delivery guy, who didn't do anything to him. The second movie? While Kevin didn't start the issue at the Christmas recital, he magnified it, up to where a prop fell on an innocent woman's head, potentially injuring her. He should have been apologetic just for that. In the first movie, he was reactionary in the moment because his pizza was eaten, a totally understandable reaction for any kid. In the second movie, he got all the way back to the house where he let Buzz still get his goat. Then when he gets on the plane, he rudely puts his headphones on while someone is trying to talk to him, thus missing the announcement about his destination. So now he's in New York. He can very easily explain the situation and hopefully get reconnected to his family. This isn't like the first movie where there was a small part of him that thought his family disappeared, it's a situation he could control. So what's he do? He takes a cab to go into the city. Kevin then books a luxurious hotel room, draws attention to himself multiple times. As I already mentioned, Kevin creates elaborate traps that make situations worse. Again, simply going to the authorities who are alluded to multiple times throughout the film, but Kevin puts his own health in danger. And the worst part of it is that he's rewarded for it. First movie is great. I've grown to hate the second movie. The pizza guy didn't bring more cheese pizza. And he kept running over their statue. Screw that guy.
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