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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 10, 2024 9:34:14 GMT -5
I dunno, I can't honestly judge these guys fairly when the target of their animosity is still out recovering from injury and they're pretty much limited in their aim as a result. Thing is, they had a promo setting out multiple targets, and a few weeks down the line, we have them getting not even 2 minutes of screen time, backstage, not even showing the attack, of an already injured man, who is a friend of one of their targets. OK MJF is injures, have them go all out on OC while seeding stuff for Wardlow to actually go after the world title. Or Wardlow and the... ugh... Kingdom try to isolate the bang bang scissor gang and go for the 6 man belts. 1 guy inside and 1 guy outside are injured, if they weren't going to pivot on who the devil is, adapt angles so they have something to do.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 10, 2024 9:49:30 GMT -5
They already have a three-way match scheduled for the World Title at Revolution. There is really no reason they couldn't incorporate Wardlow into that angle and turn it into a four-way.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 10, 2024 9:58:16 GMT -5
They already have a three-way match scheduled for the World Title at Revolution. There is really no reason they couldn't incorporate Wardlow into that angle and turn it into a four-way. Wardlow is injured, that'd be the reason. Torn Meniscus was the diagnosis and he's likely gonna be recovering until Aprilish Could change, depends on how he recovers, he was walking around on Rampage this week
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 10, 2024 10:01:47 GMT -5
I dunno, I can't honestly judge these guys fairly when the target of their animosity is still out recovering from injury and they're pretty much limited in their aim as a result. Thing is, they had a promo setting out multiple targets, and a few weeks down the line, we have them getting not even 2 minutes of screen time, backstage, not even showing the attack, of an already injured man, who is a friend of one of their targets. OK MJF is injures, have them go all out on OC while seeding stuff for Wardlow to actually go after the world title. Or Wardlow and the... ugh... Kingdom try to isolate the bang bang scissor gang and go for the 6 man belts. 1 guy inside and 1 guy outside are injured, if they weren't going to pivot on who the devil is, adapt angles so they have something to do. Assuming that Roddy and the Kingdom are going after the BBSG soon given they're getting Trios wins for rank purposes. So there's that Whether or not Roddy beats Orange will remain to be seen, it just sucks Wardlow got hurt because the Komander match was him really starting to show some flare to his matches I liked, shitty timing. Wardlow was definitely going after the world title and racking up wins to get to the top of the rankings for it likely for directly after Revolution. So Undisputed Kingdom is in a situation where unless they get some new members they probably have to not wait for Wardlow to heal and run through Roddy and the Kingdom potentially doing some belt collecting attempts. Definitely down for them winning the Trios belts, they're a really fun in ring Trios Team
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 10, 2024 10:08:26 GMT -5
They already have a three-way match scheduled for the World Title at Revolution. There is really no reason they couldn't incorporate Wardlow into that angle and turn it into a four-way. There is, it's that the angle would be shittier if he was in it
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Post by Dub H on Feb 10, 2024 10:09:13 GMT -5
I only feel bad for the best friends that were given the impossible task of making people care about the UK
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 10, 2024 10:26:42 GMT -5
I only feel bad for the best friends that were given the impossible task of making people care about the UK Wasn't impossible to me, their match was great, Roddy/Orange is going to be a great match I feel like an alien on another planet sometimes for simply thinking The Kingdom are good wrestlers lol
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 10, 2024 15:41:08 GMT -5
I enjoyed their No DQ match with Action Andretti/Darius Martin but other than that they're just deeply uninteresting workers altogether.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 10, 2024 15:59:24 GMT -5
I only feel bad for the best friends that were given the impossible task of making people care about the UK Wasn't impossible to me, their match was great, Roddy/Orange is going to be a great match I feel like an alien on another planet sometimes for simply thinking The Kingdom are good wrestlers lol They're good wrestlers, but not the world-destroyers they're being presented as. And it sucks big time that Roddy finally tapped into something beyond Wrestler McWrestleface guy but is now back to Wrestler McWrestleface guy.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 10, 2024 18:08:34 GMT -5
Wasn't impossible to me, their match was great, Roddy/Orange is going to be a great match I feel like an alien on another planet sometimes for simply thinking The Kingdom are good wrestlers lol They're good wrestlers, but not the world-destroyers they're being presented as. And it sucks big time that Roddy finally tapped into something beyond Wrestler McWrestleface guy but is now back to Wrestler McWrestleface guy. But he's not completely, he's still doing dumb things and screaming peoples names. The only thing he got rid of was the neckbrace all things really considered And they're not being presented as world-destroyers, they're a group of bullies, they've always been a group of bullies using numbers. That's what they continue to be especially down their leader.
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 10, 2024 18:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Feb 10, 2024 18:25:02 GMT -5
Even his tweets are bland
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Post by DSR on Feb 10, 2024 20:33:35 GMT -5
I only feel bad for the best friends that were given the impossible task of making people care about the UK Wasn't impossible to me, their match was great, Roddy/Orange is going to be a great match I feel like an alien on another planet sometimes for simply thinking The Kingdom are good wrestlers lol *while wearing a Matt Taven t-shirt* Nanu, nanu.
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Post by ghost on Feb 10, 2024 23:02:58 GMT -5
Yeah nothing about that group is redeeming at all to me. I'm a fan of Wardlow's, but he's been marginalized to the point where I'm not sure he can ever get back the momentum he had previously, even if they push him to the main event scene. They should have done that a year and a half ago. Hopefully once MJF comes back, they do that feud without the title involved. I have a feeling Khan can't wait to put the belt on Cole, but I think you have to run with Swerve at this point and go from there.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 11, 2024 2:37:04 GMT -5
To me it feels like the goose is cooked with this group. A month ago Adam Cole says the Undisputed Kingdom is going to take over, and Wardlow is going to go after the AEW belt. Last week it takes Wardlow 5 minutes to beat Kommander, and Wardlow may have legitimately injured himself in the match. What are we even doing here? Last year's devil angle into the United Kingdom has been a real bust. That's not exactly Wardlow's fault or AEW's that he got hurt in the Komander match, a match that had Wardlow look the best he's been in ages and was a showcase of his character work. Komander barely did anything but get slaughtered for five minutes. But is exactly AEW's fault though? Wardlow's injury is the culmination of several bad, unnecessary booking decisions that led to that moment. - Wrestling in a meaningless TV match - Against a lower card luchador - And it took Wardlow takes 5 minutes to beat Kommander - All to keep what negligible heat exists on what is basically already a lower midcard stable - And Wardlow looks like a goober being a part of another stable - When his solo career has already kind of floundered because of his wonky booking - And the manager of the stable Wardlow is a part of can't wrestle because of a bum leg - And the main wrestler the stable is feuding with his out because of injuries - And I'm unconvinced the leader of the stable didn't actually need to be the guy in the devil mask in the first place While hindsight is always 20/20, in AEW foresight is sometimes booking with your eyes closed. There have been several points over the past few months when an agent or a wrestler could have said to TK "hey, let's not do this with Wardlow," and January 31st was the time to do it before Wardlow got injured. For basically nothing. And it would be even more of a waste if Wardlow's overness at his peak wasn't already so wasted.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 11, 2024 4:14:37 GMT -5
That's not exactly Wardlow's fault or AEW's that he got hurt in the Komander match, a match that had Wardlow look the best he's been in ages and was a showcase of his character work. Komander barely did anything but get slaughtered for five minutes. But is exactly AEW's fault though? Wardlow's injury is the culmination of several bad, unnecessary booking decisions that led to that moment. - Wrestling in a meaningless TV match - Against a lower card luchador - And it took Wardlow takes 5 minutes to beat Kommander - All to keep what negligible heat exists on what is basically already a lower midcard stable - And Wardlow looks like a goober being a part of another stable - When his solo career has already kind of floundered because of his wonky booking - And the manager of the stable Wardlow is a part of can't wrestle because of a bum leg - And the main wrestler the stable is feuding with his out because of injuries - And I'm unconvinced the leader of the stable didn't actually need to be the guy in the devil mask in the first place While hindsight is always 20/20, in AEW foresight is sometimes booking with your eyes closed. There have been several points over the past few months when an agent or a wrestler could have said to TK "hey, let's not do this with Wardlow," and January 31st was the time to do it before Wardlow got injured. For basically nothing. And it would be even more of a waste if Wardlow's overness at his peak wasn't already so wasted. Why the f*** does it matter that it took him five minutes to beat Komander? That's so f***ing insulting to Komander who has always been presented as a threat in ring and just challenged for the International Title like four days before this match. Undisputed Kingdom in storyline chose to pick Komander's bones for not beating Orange and refusing their handshakes Wardlow played with his food, Komander hit like one meaningful move which Wardlow kicked out of. The entire match was designed to get Wardlow's new hammy style over and it f***ing worked pretty well judging by the crowd and online reaction. I wont argue the other points but I just feel like constantly harping on how long it took Wardlow to beat a guy AEW's built up well in the midcard who he dominated to show shit off and be gassed up by Cole, is just unfair.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 11, 2024 4:17:34 GMT -5
This is definitely an example of where it really wouldn't have hurt to pivot on angle. And still wouldn't.
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Post by CeilingFan on Feb 11, 2024 9:23:30 GMT -5
Here is how I would book UK :
Darby Allin and Sting defeat the Young Bucks at Revolution. The Tag Team Championship is declared vacant and there is a tournament, to be won by Taven and Bennett.
Roderick Strong wins the International Title at Revolution.
Swerve wins the World Title and is targeted by Wardlow, which leads to a war between Undisputed Kingdom and Mogul Embassy.
Does anyone agree?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 11, 2024 9:26:46 GMT -5
That's not exactly Wardlow's fault or AEW's that he got hurt in the Komander match, a match that had Wardlow look the best he's been in ages and was a showcase of his character work. Komander barely did anything but get slaughtered for five minutes. But is exactly AEW's fault though? Wardlow's injury is the culmination of several bad, unnecessary booking decisions that led to that moment. - Wrestling in a meaningless TV match - Against a lower card luchador - And it took Wardlow takes 5 minutes to beat Kommander - All to keep what negligible heat exists on what is basically already a lower midcard stable - And Wardlow looks like a goober being a part of another stable - When his solo career has already kind of floundered because of his wonky booking - And the manager of the stable Wardlow is a part of can't wrestle because of a bum leg - And the main wrestler the stable is feuding with his out because of injuries - And I'm unconvinced the leader of the stable didn't actually need to be the guy in the devil mask in the first place While hindsight is always 20/20, in AEW foresight is sometimes booking with your eyes closed. There have been several points over the past few months when an agent or a wrestler could have said to TK "hey, let's not do this with Wardlow," and January 31st was the time to do it before Wardlow got injured. For basically nothing. And it would be even more of a waste if Wardlow's overness at his peak wasn't already so wasted. Okay "guy wrestled a match" does not make his injury the booking's fault.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 11, 2024 9:42:14 GMT -5
Here is how I would book UK : Darby Allin and Sting defeat the Young Bucks at Revolution. The Tag Team Championship is declared vacant and there is a tournament, to be won by Taven and Bennett. Roderick Strong wins the International Title at Revolution. Swerve wins the World Title and is targeted by Wardlow, which leads to a war between Undisputed Kingdom and Mogul Embassy. Does anyone agree? At the end of the day, in my opinion the biggest problem with the stable are that Taven, Bennett and Strong are three of the biggest charisma vacuums in the business today. I don't see how giving them strong pushes and title reigns fixes any of that.
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