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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 13, 2024 18:30:00 GMT -5
They need Roddy to beat OC for the International title and KOR is apparently expected to return in 2 month at least. I am absolutely down for Roddy to beat OC, but I really hope him and the Kingdom get back to goofy. Roddy’s gotta get a new fictional injury or OC’s gotta hit him with some DDTs to get that neck back in a brace. Something. I’m totally willing to give them time with this, especially since he still shouts Adam’s name, but I need Roddy pretending he’s crippled after miraculously being able to win a match.
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Post by chrom on Jan 13, 2024 18:35:13 GMT -5
Midcard Mafia and I stand by that statement. You can’t have Taven and Bennett and Roddy go from those bitchmade comedy goof skits to “threats to the company”. And I hate to see Wardlow in another faction cause that tells me TK doesn’t have a f***ing clue to do with this dude who people want to cheer. I can't understand how he is failing to book Wardlow. For years, from The Wild Samoans to Vader to Mil Muertes, destructive hoss wrestlers are the easiest guys to book.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 13, 2024 18:45:09 GMT -5
Midcard Mafia and I stand by that statement. You can’t have Taven and Bennett and Roddy go from those bitchmade comedy goof skits to “threats to the company”. And I hate to see Wardlow in another faction cause that tells me TK doesn’t have a f***ing clue to do with this dude who people want to cheer. I can't understand how he is failing to book Wardlow. For years, from The Wild Samoans to Vader to Mil Muertes, destructive hoss wrestlers are the easiest guys to book. Wardlow's story and momentum got completely curtailed by the MJF drama and Wardlow has since found little to no momentum, and they've tried quite a few different feuds and avenues to get him there.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 13, 2024 21:02:25 GMT -5
I honestly cant think of a way to undo all the work put into the International Title than Roddy beating OC for it.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Jan 14, 2024 0:54:09 GMT -5
I don't get mad when I see talent or angles that do nothing for me take up so much space on my wrestling program anymore, I just change the channel.
Undisputed Kingdom is so cliched, rehashed, overdone, and full of talent (not all, but at least half) I don't think I could possibly care less about that I just immediately close out of my FiteTV app as soon as any of them show up on my screen.
I think the whole thing is pure ass from top to bottom, sorry.
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Post by Rave on Jan 14, 2024 0:55:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but for me heel Cole absolutely sucks the fun out of everything.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 14, 2024 0:59:28 GMT -5
I honestly cant think of a way to undo all the work put into the International Title than Roddy beating OC for it. If it was the first reign, sure, the second reign? I don't really see that undoing the work? Roddy has been over for months, he's a great in ring worker as well Roddy might be the most deserving of a belt of all these guys right now for the work he put in this year.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Jan 14, 2024 1:03:42 GMT -5
I honestly cant think of a way to undo all the work put into the International Title than Roddy beating OC for it. If it was the first reign, sure, the second reign? I don't really see that undoing the work? Roddy has been over for months, he's a great in ring worker as well Roddy might be the most deserving of a belt of all these guys right now for the work he put in this year.
Roddy was over being a comedic dumbass who just yelled "AAADDAAAAMMMM" a lot. Whatever this is with Cole's new faction is just back to "meh" for me.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 14, 2024 1:07:52 GMT -5
If it was the first reign, sure, the second reign? I don't really see that undoing the work? Roddy has been over for months, he's a great in ring worker as well Roddy might be the most deserving of a belt of all these guys right now for the work he put in this year.
Roddy was over being a comedic dumbass who just yelled "AAADDAAAAMMMM" a lot. Whatever this is with Cole's new faction is just back to "meh" for me.
He's still doing the name shouting thing, and he's still getting a crowd reaction with it. He dropped the Neck Strong part but he was smart not to drop all of it.
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Post by bearned on Jan 14, 2024 2:27:55 GMT -5
I don't get mad when I see talent or angles that do nothing for me take up so much space on my wrestling program anymore, I just change the channel. Undisputed Kingdom is so cliched, rehashed, overdone, and full of talent (not all, but at least half) I don't think I could possibly care less about that I just immediately close out of my FiteTV app as soon as any of them show up on my screen. I think the whole thing is pure ass from top to bottom, sorry. We are about two weeks into this (not including they mystery stuff before the reveal), the number of tantrums about how bad they are is insane.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 14, 2024 2:42:21 GMT -5
I don't get mad when I see talent or angles that do nothing for me take up so much space on my wrestling program anymore, I just change the channel. Undisputed Kingdom is so cliched, rehashed, overdone, and full of talent (not all, but at least half) I don't think I could possibly care less about that I just immediately close out of my FiteTV app as soon as any of them show up on my screen. I think the whole thing is pure ass from top to bottom, sorry. We are about two weeks into this (not including they mystery stuff before the reveal), the number of tantrums about how bad they are is insane. I'm shocked by it too Like when Cole was revealed as The Devil, the reaction seemed pretty tepid, and expected, hell, the people in the faction itself seemed expected And now that they're on screen it feels like people are ready to call this DOA, not working, a complete failure, and want nothing to do with any of the talents For all I know, and all we know, this could be a flop of a stable we shit on in a few months time, but all they've done since forming is have Cole cut two promos (Which I thought were pretty good at promoting the group) and present them winning some matches, our first real movement is Roddy officially challenging Orange, which is the exact stuff Cole promised in his promos, and now people don't even seem to want him to take the International Belt... Because he's slightly toned down the silliness? Dude just screamed "PRESTOOOON!" in a promo tonight, that part of Roderick is still there. They aren't even at the top of the card hogging up the spotlight right now, I can't imagine how angry people would be if they were, if they're already this fed up with them having matches with *Checks notes* Bryan Keith...
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 14, 2024 3:24:40 GMT -5
sure this whole stable just officially started but I totally get why people would be sour on them immediately. they’ve made two things that a lot of people liked on the shows (kingdom hijinks and cole hijinks) into if not boring, much more muted characters so far.
super serious faction after the work some of these guys have done the last year is not exactly appealing to me at least. I honest to god think Wardlow is going to bring all of these guys down to his heat level if they’re not careful and that’s even with hoping Roddy takes the International title soon.
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Post by deezy on Jan 14, 2024 7:17:21 GMT -5
sure this whole stable just officially started but I totally get why people would be sour on them immediately. they’ve made two things that a lot of people liked on the shows (kingdom hijinks and cole hijinks) into if not boring, much more muted characters so far. super serious faction after the work some of these guys have done the last year is not exactly appealing to me at least. I honest to god think Wardlow is going to bring all of these guys down to his heat level if they’re not careful and that’s even with hoping Roddy takes the International title soon. To me it seemed like Wardlow wanted to be anywhere but with Undisputed Kingdom during their promo Wednesday night. Just looked so uninterested in everything.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 14, 2024 9:07:00 GMT -5
Sure they just got revealed but let's face it, the Kingdom and Roddy were already teaming before this and Wardlow was floundering before the reveal. So what we're seeing isn't exactly new. And honestly I was muting the TV during all the ADAAAAAM mess when Roddy was doing it originally, so can't say I was too entertained by him before. So in my case you have 3 dudes I muted every time they were on screen, a guy I haven't been entertained by since he turned on MJF and Adam Cole who was super fresh as a face and is super stale as a leader of a heel faction. Can't say I'm into this story right now.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 14, 2024 10:33:00 GMT -5
I expect them to be the top Heel faction in AEW 3 months from now.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Jan 14, 2024 11:20:11 GMT -5
I don't get mad when I see talent or angles that do nothing for me take up so much space on my wrestling program anymore, I just change the channel. Undisputed Kingdom is so cliched, rehashed, overdone, and full of talent (not all, but at least half) I don't think I could possibly care less about that I just immediately close out of my FiteTV app as soon as any of them show up on my screen. I think the whole thing is pure ass from top to bottom, sorry. We are about two weeks into this (not including they mystery stuff before the reveal), the number of tantrums about how bad they are is insane.
If you think "I don't like this, I think it sucks, and I'm changing the channel" is a tantrum, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 14, 2024 11:23:48 GMT -5
sure this whole stable just officially started but I totally get why people would be sour on them immediately. they’ve made two things that a lot of people liked on the shows (kingdom hijinks and cole hijinks) into if not boring, much more muted characters so far. super serious faction after the work some of these guys have done the last year is not exactly appealing to me at least. I honest to god think Wardlow is going to bring all of these guys down to his heat level if they’re not careful and that’s even with hoping Roddy takes the International title soon. To me it seemed like Wardlow wanted to be anywhere but with Undisputed Kingdom during their promo Wednesday night. Just looked so uninterested in everything. The only interesting payoff about this angle is Wardlow ripping on Cole about how he and max deserve each other, because they are exactly the same and that he planned on f***ing up Cole from the start.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Jan 14, 2024 11:39:14 GMT -5
To me it seemed like Wardlow wanted to be anywhere but with Undisputed Kingdom during their promo Wednesday night. Just looked so uninterested in everything. The only interesting payoff about this angle is Wardlow ripping on Cole about how he and max deserve it other, because they are exactly the same and that he planned on f***ing up Cole from the start.
So, Wardlow was on track to basically follow the Batista trajectory, by my estimates. Yeah, things got curtailed by Max's issues in '22 and then delayed further by having to strike while the iron was hot in terms of Max's face turn in '23, but that was the natural evolution of the story from the start.
Wardlow has been in: The Inner Circle, The Pinnacle, and NOW we can add the Undisputed Kingdom. That's 3 factions, and while the first 2 made sense in terms of the slow-burn turn they were building to between him and MJF, now it all just reeks of "Undisputed Era needs a heavy, Wardlow's available and he hates Max, soo...."
I usually defend a lot of Tony Khan's booking decisions since I do understand he likes to book long term and it's usually for the betterment of the product, but he's let Wardlow twist in the wind and cool down with stop-start booking to the point that if the dude left at the end of his contract I'd cheer him on for it.
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Post by bearned on Jan 14, 2024 11:58:30 GMT -5
We are about two weeks into this (not including they mystery stuff before the reveal), the number of tantrums about how bad they are is insane. If you think "I don't like this, I think it sucks, and I'm changing the channel" is a tantrum, then I don't know what to tell you.
Immediately closing your tv app and declaring them ‘ass’ because they show up seems a bit ridiculous to me but each to their own I guess. How would you even know how bad it was if you don’t watch it anyway?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 14, 2024 12:30:58 GMT -5
The only interesting payoff about this angle is Wardlow ripping on Cole about how he and max deserve it other, because they are exactly the same and that he planned on f***ing up Cole from the start. So, Wardlow was on track to basically follow the Batista trajectory, by my estimates. Yeah, things got curtailed by Max's issues in '22 and then delayed further by having to strike while the iron was hot in terms of Max's face turn in '23, but that was the natural evolution of the story from the start.
Wardlow has been in: The Inner Circle, The Pinnacle, and NOW we can add the Undisputed Kingdom. That's 3 factions, and while the first 2 made sense in terms of the slow-burn turn they were building to between him and MJF, now it all just reeks of "Undisputed Era needs a heavy, Wardlow's available and he hates Max, soo...." I usually defend a lot of Tony Khan's booking decisions since I do understand he likes to book long term and it's usually for the betterment of the product, but he's let Wardlow twist in the wind and cool down with stop-start booking to the point that if the dude left at the end of his contract I'd cheer him on for it.
I wouldn't say Wardlow was in the inner circle. Max was barely on it much less Wardlow. I did enjoy the Wardlow Hager matches tho
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