gl83
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Post by gl83 on Jan 6, 2024 11:40:55 GMT -5
Here are some things I'd like to see them do with the briefcase: 1. Cash-in attempt. The champ immediately gets themselves disqualified to retain. 2. Mr/Ms. MitB earns a legitimate title shot, but also has the brief case 3. Similar to above, but Mr/Ms. MiTB wins the title without using the briefcase, and has the briefcase as insurance 4. I agree faces should not do cheap cash-ins. A Face winner says, "I'm going to main event Summer Slam" 5. A cash-in during the Royal Rumble! (This backfires because the ref doesn't know what to do and they make the Rumble for the title, they force the champ to enter the Rumble as next entrant) 6. R Truth cashes it in for the 24/7 title (Or better yet R Truth wins the Rumble and challenges for the 24/7 title, to end Nikki Cross' HIStoric (425 day, as of today) reign They did #2 with Edge when he won the Gold Rush tournament to challenge Batista for the WHC, while still being in possession of the MITB briefcase.
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tirtefaa
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 6, 2024 13:16:28 GMT -5
Edge- great tenure and an exciting cash in, followed by a disappointing quick title reign.
Rob Van Dam- great build for the PPV, followed by a fun win, then busted for drugs.
Mr. Kennedy- got injured and Edge took his briefcase and cashed in on Taker, not as exciting as beating Cena.
CM Punk- came out of nowhere, really amazed he won, unfortunately once he lost it, he was relegated back to the midcard.
CM Punk- led to an excellent heel turn, and while he did lose the title quickly, he did get it back shortly thereafter.
Jack Swagger- an awful mistake, both the briefcase and the WHC were devalued by letting him win.
*At this point they had multiple briefcases and it got incredibly cluttered and less unique. Despite being fresher, a lot of these blends together and are hard to distinguish.*
Kane- cashed in the same night on Mysterio... it's whatever. I think there's other ways to get the same result with Kane without him needing the briefcase, just felt like weak booking.
The Miz- this suffered from a lengthy forgettable title reign. Had he won and lost the belt in quick fashion, I think he could have been more of a main event mainstay.
Daniel Bryan- was it exciting to see Bryan win? Yeah. Was it done in a tired cliche fashion? Absolutely. Led to a great heel turn, but then we saw what happened as WrestleMania.
Alberto Del Rio- this is the guy they decided to help end the Summer of Punk. Another lame cash in and forgettable title reign.
Dolph Ziggler- another "shocking" cash in. I know a lot of people liked this...but at this point there were enough successful cash in's that ended up not helping the briefcase holder.
John Cena- done more to further a storyline. I can't overall complain, but like Kane I think they could have gotten there without the briefcase.
Damien Sandow- what happens when you light a fire under someone and immediately snuff it out so hard that the person never fully recovers.
Randy Orton- oh look, Randy is cashing in on Daniel Bryan right after he won the WWE title. How exciting! I'm so happy that Randy Orton is champion again for the 34th time.
Seth Rollins- solid choice and an exciting cash in at WrestleMania that wasn't a quick 30 second match? Awesome! Unfortunately he would end up vacating the title due to injury several months later.
Sheamus- another quick cash in after Roman won the title. Did nothing for Sheamus other than bump up his title reigns.
Dean Ambrose- can't complain but again a quick cash in, and then had a title reign where it felt like the office didn't care that much.
Carmella- it was okay I guess, I hardly remember it happening.
Baron Corbin- felt like they didn't have a plan, and it didn't do him any good, if anything he's remained stagnant since losing his cash in.
Alexa Bliss- Alexa beats a beaten down opponent. Is this Groundhog Day?
Braun Strowman- I forgot this even happened, did you? I swear, anything that Braun did usually left my brain after 20 seconds.
Bayley- another quick cash in. I guess this was done to give Charlotte a title "reign" in order to stat pad....then she would lose it to Charlotte who lost it back to her quickly again. Ridiculous.
Brock Lesnar- I like the boom box stuff, but yet another out of left field booking decision to just give him the briefcase to begin with.
Asuka- given the circumstances, this was fine.
Otis- if the goal was to never have him go any further, why even give him the briefcase? Can I also just say I hate the fact that you can lose the briefcase to someone else as if it in of itself is a title?
Nikki- cashes in after another grueling match. It's Groundhog Day.
Big E- another lame cash in, making him look like a chump from the getgo. I really like Big E, but they set him up to be a terrible champion who wasn't credible.
Liv Morgan- another quick cash in after Ronda defended their title. Ugh.
Austin Theory- like Baron Corbin, it's like this wasn't thought through and he lost his cash in like a chump.
Damian Priest- we'll see what happens, but I'm expecting more of the same.
Iyo Sky- cashed in on a champion who just won a grueling 20 minute match. Won the title in 5 seconds. Been there a million times.
That's 30 briefcases in just 18 years. And most of them were either underwhelming or led to a disappointing booking. I would actually prefer if it wasn't an annual thing, maybe do it every other year with the off year being used for King of the Ring or something. Or flipflop both between the men's and women's, so there's only ever one floating briefcase at one time.
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4real
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Post by 4real on Jan 6, 2024 13:22:45 GMT -5
Priest I think has a lot of similarities to Edge’s MITB reign. He’s in the same kind of spot Edge was in 2005/6 where he seems ready to be Champion but needs that one thing to put it over the top. His cash in did exactly that and made Edge a star. He seems over shadowed by a lot of big stars coming back from injury or other ventures (Punk, Rock)
Also Edge was injured for a few months before his cash in so fans hadn’t really got sick of him at that point and his heel run was still relatively fresh. Priest is on Raw in the same matches every week and teasing the cash in often. He still has a lot of time to cash in as well (just under 7 months) so this could in theory go on for a while and it already feels like forever.
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Ozman
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Post by Ozman on Jan 6, 2024 16:16:04 GMT -5
Edge being the first Money In The Bank winner is the reason we have the surprise cash in. The surprise cash in fit his “ultimate opportunist” gimmick. The way RVD did his 2006 cash in was the probably original premise. Even Kennedy originally announced in advance that he’d cash in at the following year’s WrestleMania. With both Kennedy and Undertaker getting hurt, they pivoted back to Edge in 2007 with another surprise cash in, which we still have today.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jan 6, 2024 17:11:31 GMT -5
Edge being the first Money In The Bank winner is the reason we have the surprise cash in. The surprise cash in fit his “ultimate opportunist” gimmick. The way RVD did his 2006 cash in was the probably original premise. Even Kennedy originally announced in advance that he’d cash in at the following year’s WrestleMania. With both Kennedy and Undertaker getting hurt, they pivoted back to Edge in 2007 with another surprise cash in, which we still have today. The original premise was for MITB to be "the winner gets any wish fulfilled," and not just a title shot. The original plan for the first MITB was to have RVD win and wish for ECW to return, which would have been the storyline impetus for One Night Stand. After he got hurt, they made the pivot to make it work for Edge's new heel gimmick
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 6, 2024 17:40:05 GMT -5
There is no creativity to this thing and so it becomes played out despite the great matches. It’s kind of why I’m glad there’s no real obvious outcome for Priest’s run here. There’s never been the story of someone sitting on/being stuck with the briefcase so long that it’s nearly at the one year expiry limit. Explore that while you’ve had a somewhat organic method to get there.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 6, 2024 17:50:04 GMT -5
I think they will end up having Priest cash in on Gunther at this rate. I don't get where the idea of "Priest has been booked like a chump as the MITB holder" has come from. Dude's been pinned only THREE times since he won the briefcase six months ago, once to Rollins and twice to Rhodes (one of those being WarGames). For a concept that would often see its holder get pinned that many times in a single week of television, that is remarkable restraint in comparison. Is it because there's no obvious successful outcome at this time? Like, you're not expecting him to beat Reigns, Rollins, Rhodes OR Punk in a cash-in scenario for the belt in the next six months, so it's bad booking?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 18:00:26 GMT -5
I think they will end up having Priest cash in on Gunther at this rate. I don't get where the idea of "Priest has been booked like a chump as the MITB holder" has come from. Dude's been pinned only THREE times since he won the briefcase six months ago, once to Rollins and twice to Rhodes (one of those being WarGames). For a concept that would often see its holder get pinned that many times in a single week of television, that is remarkable restraint in comparison. Is it because there's no obvious successful outcome at this time? Like, you're not expecting him to beat Reigns, Rollins, Rhodes OR Punk in a cash-in scenario for the belt in the next six months, so it's bad booking? I think it more has to do with the logic gaps with him holding it. I mean how many times has he had a perfect oppurtunity to cash in and for some reason never did....the seth and Nakamura feud is the most recent obvious time when he had a whole bunch of times to cash in but just didn't with Seth being laid out numerous times. Like atleast previous holders felt like they took the oppurtunity immediately every time they had an opening where as with Priest it feels like he will only attempt when the company suddenly remembers oh yea he still has the MITB. Like I think it was on this past Raw where he attempted to cash in...only to get thwarted and just stands outside the ring even though Seth is clearly worn and JD had the numbers advantage but nope he just stood there as the show went off the air.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 6, 2024 19:57:22 GMT -5
I think they will end up having Priest cash in on Gunther at this rate. I don't get where the idea of "Priest has been booked like a chump as the MITB holder" has come from. Dude's been pinned only THREE times since he won the briefcase six months ago, once to Rollins and twice to Rhodes (one of those being WarGames). For a concept that would often see its holder get pinned that many times in a single week of television, that is remarkable restraint in comparison. Is it because there's no obvious successful outcome at this time? Like, you're not expecting him to beat Reigns, Rollins, Rhodes OR Punk in a cash-in scenario for the belt in the next six months, so it's bad booking? For me, it's more about being unsuccessful in his attempts over the last 6 months and that he might go the same route as Theory did last year. Then again, maybe he'll be successful and beat Rollins or whoever the World Champ is at the time.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 6, 2024 20:49:12 GMT -5
Has anyone actually claimed the Mania main event with it yet? Not interrupting a match but declaring the match weeks in advance? I only remember RVD doing anything similar.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Jan 6, 2024 21:33:59 GMT -5
Why doesn’t he ever try it on Roman?
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Post by 4real on Jan 7, 2024 5:50:17 GMT -5
Has anyone actually claimed the Mania main event with it yet? Not interrupting a match but declaring the match weeks in advance? I only remember RVD doing anything similar. Didn’t Mr Kennedy do that when he won the briefcase? Although since he was a heel I was under the suspicion he was lying and would have cashed in whenever if he hadn’t got injured.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2024 6:05:42 GMT -5
Has anyone actually claimed the Mania main event with it yet? Not interrupting a match but declaring the match weeks in advance? I only remember RVD doing anything similar. Didn’t Mr Kennedy do that when he won the briefcase? Although since he was a heel I was under the suspicion he was lying and would have cashed in whenever if he hadn’t got injured. Yeah, he’d called his shot for WM24 pretty much as soon as he won it, so while he had it they actually had a countdown timer come up during his entrance referencing that. Circumstances being what they were, he probably would’ve cashed in early in a typical heel way, if only he didn’t get injured himself.
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Post by jp49er80 on Jan 7, 2024 6:20:44 GMT -5
Its never been the same since Big Show called it the Money In The Briefcase Bank
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Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 7, 2024 9:08:00 GMT -5
They need to dust off the RVD approach. Have the briefcase holder actually declare the day they will challenge, call the champion out.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 7, 2024 9:32:53 GMT -5
Has anyone actually claimed the Mania main event with it yet? Not interrupting a match but declaring the match weeks in advance? I only remember RVD doing anything similar. Didn’t Mr Kennedy do that when he won the briefcase? Although since he was a heel I was under the suspicion he was lying and would have cashed in whenever if he hadn’t got injured. I thought for sure Daniel Bryan was going to do it and challenge Hall of Pain Mark Henry. Considering what happened instead helped skyrocket him to superstardom maybe it was for the best.
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