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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 8, 2024 23:03:27 GMT -5
How did they decide to pick Nikka Bella over Brie Bella for this show?
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jan 8, 2024 23:04:39 GMT -5
I know Okada was never showing up but every time Nakamura mentioned "bringing Chaos" I had a little hope
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 8, 2024 23:06:40 GMT -5
You can thank them later. No joke, when I saw their team name abbreviated as "P.E." in WCW, it made me think "Physical Education", and that my elementary school P.E. teacher was going to become their valet. I actually marked for them winning the Tag Belts from Harlem Heat.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 8, 2024 23:06:58 GMT -5
I guess a very house show-esque main event & finish isn't too bad to fill time before the Rumble.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 8, 2024 23:07:58 GMT -5
No joke, when I saw their team name abbreviated as "P.E." in WCW, it made me think "Physical Education", and that my elementary school P.E. teacher was going to become their valet. I actually marked for them winning the Tag Belts from Harlem Heat. Wish they were given the same chance in WWF. Imagine a fatal four way TLC. Dudleyz vs. Edge and Christian vs. Hardyz vs. Public Enemy They really had a chance to be the 4th team in that era to hang with the other 3.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 8, 2024 23:11:13 GMT -5
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 8, 2024 23:19:04 GMT -5
Here are my RAW Thoughts & Facts & Stats:
I love the graphics for Cody Rhodes VS Shinsuke Nakamura. Tremendous segment with Drew McIntyre & CM Punk. I love every minute of it. And for the record, they have never wrestled each other 1-on-1 in their Career. They teamed up in multi-man matches & were in Battle Royals & Royal Rumbles. Tommaso Ciampa VS Finn Balor was awesome. I can't wait for #DIY VS Judgment Day for the Tag Team Titles in the near future. FACTS: This was Tommaso Ciampaโs 1st Raw of 2024, his 1st match overall since #DIY & The Miz defeated Imperium on December 11, 2023, & 1st 1-on-1 Match since he lost to Ludwig Kaiser on Raw on November 13, 2023. This was Tommaso Ciampaโs 7th 1-on-1 Match in a row against a foreign wrestler on Raw (he wrestled Ricochet & Riddick Moss on Main Event) after he lost to Bronson Reed (July 24, 2023), Shinsuke Nakamura (July 31, 2023), defeated Reed (August 28, 2023), defeated Giovanni Vinci (September 18, 2023), defeated Ludwig Kaiser (September 25, 2023), lost to GUNTHER (October 2, 2023), & lost to Ludwig Kaiser (November 13, 2023) & was the 1st time he wrestled an Irish wrestler since his last match against Finn Balor on NXT on November 27, 2019. This was Finn Balorโs 1st Raw of 2024, his 1st match overall since The Judgment Day defeated The Creed Brothers on Raw on December 18, 2023 & 1st 1-on-1 Match since he defeated AJ Styles on Smackdown on September 15, 2023 & 1st on Raw since he lost to Cody Rhodes on August 14, 2023. This was the 1st match between 2 former NXT Champions on Raw since Sami Zayn VS Drew McIntyre on December 4, 2023 & 1st between 2 former 2-time NXT Champions since Ciampa VS Shinsuke Nakamura on July 31, 2023. This was the 2nd 1-on-1 Match between them after NXT on November 27, 2019, which was won by Balor. Good promo by Becky Lynch. I don't mind her & Nia Jax continuing the feud after they had a good match last week. Kofi Kingston VS Ludwig Kaiser was great. I don't mind the Double Count Out. Kingston took out Giovanni Vinci. Kaiser took out Kingston. I really hope this leads to the return of Big E to take on GUNTHER. That would be incredible. FACTS: This was Kofi Kingstonโs 2nd week in a row on Raw & 1st 1-on-1 Match since he lost to Ivar on Raw on October 9, 2023. This was the 1st time he wrestled a German wrestler in his Career. This was Ludwig Kaiserโs 2nd week in a row on Raw & 1st 1-on-1 Match since he lost to Jey Uso on Raw on December 18, 2023. This was the 1st match of 2024 to take place between 2 wrestlers who wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & wrestled in a Tag Team Match & now a Singles Match. This was the 1st Count Out & Double Count Out of 2024 & 2nd No Contest of 2024. I said I wasn't going to be negative in 2024. So, I will say this. An OK segment with Nia Jax & Rhea Ripley to tease the future. Even in recaps, The Rock's promo gives me goosebumps. Fun brawl with Cody Rhodes & Shinsuke Nakamura. Kayden Carter & Katana Chance VS Chelsea Green & Piper Niven was really good. I like the finishing sequence. I also love Chelsea using her husband's move. FACTS: This was the 1st Womenโs Tag Team Championship Match of 2024 & 1st since Kayden Carter & Katana Chance VS Chelsea Green & Piper Niven on Raw on December 18, 2023. This was Kayden Carter & Katana Chanceโs 1st Raw of 2024 & their 1st match overall since they defeated Chelsea Green & Piper Niven on December 18, 2023. This was Kayden Carter & Katana Chanceโs 1st Womenโs Tag Team Championship Defense, so if they would have lost, they would have been the 1st since Liv Morgan & Raquel Rodriguez who lost to Sonya Deville & Chelsea Green on Raw on July 17, 2023 to lose in their 1st Defense. As of Raw, Kayden Carter & Katana Chanceโs Womenโs Tag Team Championship Reign has lasted 20 Days, so if they lose, they would have been the 1st to lose in 20 Days, which is the 4th Shortest Reign of All-Time ahead of Asuka & Alexa Bliss (10/31-22 โ 11/5/22, 5 Days), Aliyah & Raquel Rodriguez (8/29/22 โ 9/12/22, 14 Days), & Liv Morgan & Raquel Rodriguez (7/1/23 โ 7/17/23, 16 Days). This will be Chelsea Green & Piper Nivenโs 1st Raw of 2024 & their 1st match overall since they lost to Kayden Carter & Katana Chance on Raw on December 18, 2023. If they would have won, they would have been the 5th team to be a 2-time Womenโs Tag Team Champions after Sasha Banks & Bayley, Shayna Baszler & Nia Jax, Damage CTRL, & Liv Morgan & Raquel Rodriguez & 1st since Morgan & Rodriguez, but 12th & 13th women to be 2-time Womenโs Tag Team Champions. This was the 3rd 2-on-2 Match between them after Raw on August 21, 2023 (won by Green & Niven) & December 18, 2023 (won by Carter & Chance), so Carter & Chance won 2 & Green & Niven won 1. The Womenโs Tag Team Championship has never changed hands in 2024, with the last title change taking place on Raw on December 18, 2023, when Carter & Chance defeated Chelsea Green & Piper Niven. It has changed hands 23 times in History. R-Truth is hilarious. What an awesome segment. Happy early birthday to R-Truth. He will turn 52 on January 19. Good promo by The Judgment Day. The Miz VS JD McDonagh was a solid match. R-Truth was hysterical as always. FACTS: This was The Mizโs 2nd week in a row on Raw, his 1st 1-on-1 Match on Raw since he lost to GUNTHER on December 18, 2023 & the 1st time he wrestled 2 foreign wrestlers back-to-back on Raw since he defeated Akira Tozawa & lost to Drew McIntyre on September 11 & October 2, 2023. This was the 1st time that The Miz wrestled an Irish wrestler since he defeated Sheamus on Smackdown on January 15, 2019. This was JD McDonaghโs 2nd week in a row on Raw. This was JD McDonaghโs 1st 1-on-1 Match on Raw since he lost to R-Truth on December 18, 2023. This was the 2nd match of 2024 to take place between 2 wrestlers who wrestled 2 weeks in a row on Raw & wrestled in a Tag Team Match & now a Singles Match. Excellent promo by Seth Rollins. I actually like Jinder Mahl coming out. I don't mind a match between them at Royal Rumble as it could be good & they had good matches in NXT in 2012 when Rollins won the NXT Title & in 2018 on Raw when Rollins was IC Champ. Otis VS Ivar was a fun meaty match. Both men move like cruiserweights. Incredible. Also, Otis was amazing for doing that World's Strongest Slam. FACTS: This was Otis' 1st Raw of 2024, 1st match overall The Alpha Academy defeated The Meta-Four on NXT on December 5, 2023, 1st Raw since a Tag Team Turmoil Match on November 27, 2023, & 1st 1-on-1 Match since he lost to Shinsuke Nakamura on November 13, 2023. This was the 1st time he wrestled another 1-named wrestler since he lost to GUNTHER on August 14, 2023. This was Ivar's 1st Raw of 2024, his 2nd match of 2024 after he lost to Johnny Gargano on Main Event on January 4, making him the 1st wrestler to wrestle on Main Event & Raw in 2024, & 1st Raw since he defeated Akira Tozawa on December 18, 2023. This was the 1st time he wrestled a 1-named wrestler since he lost to Ricochet on Smackdown on April 7, 2023, which was also in Portland. This was the 1st match between 2 1-named wrestlers of 2024 & 1st since Otis VS GUNTHER on August 14, 2023. Jey's promo was annoying but interesting confrontation with Bronson Reed. Next week's Raw looks great with Seth Rollins VS Jinder Mahal. Why wait for the Rumble, though Mahal hasn't been on PPV since he lost to Drew McIntyre at SummerSlam in 2021. Also, I like Awesome Truth VS The Judgment Day & DIY VS McDonagh & Mysterio to continue to build to a future Tag Team Title Match, as well as the return of GUNTHER. Cody Rhodes VS Shinsuke Nakamura was a fun match. I like Cody's cousin, Berkley Ottman getting involved by getting misted. Hopefully this will end their feud so Rhodes can concentrate on the Royal Rumble. FACTS: This was the 1st Street Fight of 2024 & the 1st since R-Truth VS JD McDonagh on Raw on December 18, 2023. This was Cody Rhodesโ 1st Raw match & main event of 2024 & 1st match overall since he defeated Shinsuke Nakamura by Disqualification on Raw on December 11, 2023. This was Cody Rhodes's 2nd No DQ/Street Fight/No Holds Barred Match in his Career & 1st since he lost to Randy Orton Smackdown on November 4, 2011, giving him a No DQ/Street Fight Record of 1-1-0. This was Shinsuke Nakamuraโs 1st Raw match of 2024 & 1st match overall since he lost to Cody Rhodes by Disqualification on Raw on December 11, 2023. This was Shinsuke Nakamura's 2nd No DQ/Street Fight/No Holds Barred Match in his Career & 1st since he wrestled AJ Styles to a No Contest at Backlash on May 6, 2018, giving him a No DQ/Street Fight Record of 0-1-1. This was the 2nd 1-on-1 Match between them after Raw on December 11, 2023, which was won by Rhodes.
Here are my RAW Match Rankings: 1) Cody Rhodes VS Shinsuke Nakamura 2) Tommaso Ciampa VS Finn Balor 3) Kofi Kingston VS Ludwig Kaiser 4) The Miz VS JD McDonagh 5) Otis VS Ivar 6) Kayden Carter & Katana Chance VS Chelsea Green & Piper Niven
Overall another solid Raw with a lot of great wrestling as we continue the Road to Royal Rumble & WrestleMania.
Enjoy Barmageddon. I will be back tomorrow night for NXT.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jan 9, 2024 0:07:02 GMT -5
I hope all of you haters had fun in the live thread without me, but tomorrow night, DADDY'S HOME.
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