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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jan 11, 2024 15:04:34 GMT -5
Darby Allin being the one guy to never betray Sting is pretty funny. But yeah, I figured his final match would be a tag match. He is going to be a few weeks shy of his 65th birthday at the time of his PPV. As great as he's looked, I just don't think he has the ability to have a long singles match anymore. I'm genuinely surprised that people thought he'd do a singles match. He's done 0 since joining AEW and was on record saying he doesn't think he can do one, doesn't want to, and wants to go out tagging with Darby. It's weird that his whole AEW run, that's been pretty much unanimously well received, followed the same formula and people would want to change it for his final match. People decide on something (in this case - stings last match would be a singles match) while ignoring either all the pertinent “clues” that don’t fit their narrative and/or, and definitely so in this case, ignore one or more parties outright saying the thing they want to see will not happen. Then they get pissy/pissed/outright angry when the thing they had convinced themselves was gonna happen doesn’t happen because it was never once even planned let alone discussed by the people who make these decisions. Or, as I call, “The Mephisto” (if you’re not familiar about the theorizing/discourse around ‘Wandavision’ when it was first airing on Disney…whew. Consider yourselves lucky.)
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Post by Cyno on Jan 11, 2024 15:32:43 GMT -5
I'm genuinely surprised that people thought he'd do a singles match. He's done 0 since joining AEW and was on record saying he doesn't think he can do one, doesn't want to, and wants to go out tagging with Darby. It's weird that his whole AEW run, that's been pretty much unanimously well received, followed the same formula and people would want to change it for his final match. People decide on something (in this case - stings last match would be a singles match) while ignoring either all the pertinent “clues” that don’t fit their narrative and/or, and definitely so in this case, ignore one or more parties outright saying the thing they want to see will not happen. Then they get pissy/pissed/outright angry when the thing they had convinced themselves was gonna happen doesn’t happen because it was never once even planned let alone discussed by the people who make these decisions. Or, as I call, “The Mephisto” (if you’re not familiar about the theorizing/discourse around ‘Wandavision’ when it was first airing on Disney…whew. Consider yourselves lucky.) I call it "The Nintendo Direct" for very similar reasons lol.
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Post by chrom on Jan 11, 2024 15:37:56 GMT -5
They almost overshot the tables they had set up last night, they missed the first one and were lucky to hit the second one
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 11, 2024 15:59:22 GMT -5
Darby Allin being the one guy to never betray Sting is pretty funny. But yeah, I figured his final match would be a tag match. He is going to be a few weeks shy of his 65th birthday at the time of his PPV. As great as he's looked, I just don't think he has the ability to have a long singles match anymore. I'm genuinely surprised that people thought he'd do a singles match. He's done 0 since joining AEW and was on record saying he doesn't think he can do one, doesn't want to, and wants to go out tagging with Darby. It's weird that his whole AEW run, that's been pretty much unanimously well received, followed the same formula and people would want to change it for his final match. It's probably as simple as people not having seen the interview(s) where he said that.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 11, 2024 16:09:01 GMT -5
AEW has been really good to Sting his entire run. They've let him do his thing and add to his legacy without really putting any pressure on him to carry the company or anything like that. He's been treated like the legend and star attraction that he is and he's obviously enjoyed himself immensely. They even employed Ric Flair for him.
Whatever Sting's final match is, it's going to be something Sting wants to do. That's really the most important part of it all.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Jan 11, 2024 16:18:10 GMT -5
Flair is gonna turn on Sting again and be the Buck’s manager isn’t he? i'd be surprised if you're wrong, they're gonna put him somewhere and where else can he go when sting retires? unfortunately a home is not one of the available choices to my knowledge
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Jan 12, 2024 6:00:12 GMT -5
Cannot wait for these douches to goof on the "I'm sorry I love you." superkick and then Sting kicks out at like 1 before a big mega powerup moment. Sting needs to f***ing win that match. The Bucks get nothing from it. Do this spot, let Sting kill em and call it a day. Not every legend needs to lose on the way out. I agree 100% with that. If it was an up & coming team that needed the rub have Sting go out on his back. However The Young Bucks will lose nothing if Sting & Darby win. If Sting is going to lose his last match have The Righteous win, or Silver & Reynolds, even 2.0, not a team already in the conversation as one of the best teams of all time.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Jan 12, 2024 6:06:19 GMT -5
Flair is gonna turn on Sting again and be the Buck’s manager isn’t he? I'd be down for that...only if Flair shaves his head and starts calling himself Daddy Warbucks. (Or better yet Daddy WOOOOOBucks.)
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Post by doomish on Jan 12, 2024 18:26:12 GMT -5
Sting needs to f***ing win that match. The Bucks get nothing from it. Do this spot, let Sting kill em and call it a day. Not every legend needs to lose on the way out. I agree 100% with that. If it was an up & coming team that needed the rub have Sting go out on his back. However The Young Bucks will lose nothing if Sting & Darby win. If Sting is going to lose his last match have The Righteous win, or Silver & Reynolds, even 2.0, not a team already in the conversation as one of the best teams of all time. Selfishly, I cannot think of a worse scenario than Sting going out to the Young Bucks.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 12, 2024 19:15:54 GMT -5
Sting hasn't lost a single match in his AEW run and he's wrestling a team that are so okay with losing, they put over Private Party when nobody really knew who they were.
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Post by KME on Jan 12, 2024 19:54:16 GMT -5
Whatever happens will be what Sting wants to happen I imagine, think Tony would like him to go out with a win, its always felt to me like they've tried to do almost the exact opposite of him being bought into WWE and being jobbed out immediately as 'the WCW guy' to HHH, the way everyone always feared he would be. He's always been booked as strong as anybody m, had a load of freedom and he never loses. So if he does lose I reckon that will have been his call, that he wants to go out looking at the lights and I'd be fine with that. The Bucks would be a contentious choice for that role because it would upset a lot of people and as funny as that would be...maybe not the route you want to take. I don't think anger at someone's retirement angle is ever going to be desired no matter how shitty a lot of the people who'd be most angry by it undoubtedly are (the Cornette acolytes namely).
The Bucks, much like Kenny, put guys over all the time, no doubt they'd be cool with losing, wouldn't hurt them in the slightest, and it's what I think will happen. They feel like a very logical choice as a team well worthy of the match that also don't need, or probably want, the win, but since they were apparently handpicked by Sting I don't think that's why they've been picked, he likely just thinks he can have a great match with them, and whatever the result is will depend on how strongly he feels about it. Don't know enough about Sting outside the ring to know if he's super old school and would be adamant about losing his last match, if he's not then I definitely expect he and Darby to win.
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Post by jm on Jan 12, 2024 19:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2024 20:15:15 GMT -5
I agree 100% with that. If it was an up & coming team that needed the rub have Sting go out on his back. However The Young Bucks will lose nothing if Sting & Darby win. If Sting is going to lose his last match have The Righteous win, or Silver & Reynolds, even 2.0, not a team already in the conversation as one of the best teams of all time. Selfishly, I cannot think of a worse scenario than Sting going out to the Young Bucks. Going out to one of the top tag teams in the world, one of the founders of the company, and two guys who will make him look incredible more then most teams, is not a bad way to go out honestly If it had to be a tag match, there weren't more better picks that they haven't already faced. The Bucks could use retiring Sting for this new run, and no wrestler retiring should really end their careers with a win imo
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2024 20:15:44 GMT -5
Sting hasn't lost a single match in his AEW run and he's wrestling a team that are so okay with losing, they put over Private Party when nobody really knew who they were. His last match should probably be when he loses though, that seems like the point.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 12, 2024 20:26:24 GMT -5
Sting hasn't lost a single match in his AEW run and he's wrestling a team that are so okay with losing, they put over Private Party when nobody really knew who they were. His last match should probably be when he loses though, that seems like the point. Normally I'd agree but this entire run has been a feel good party run. Let's finish it off with a feel good win as well.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2024 20:27:57 GMT -5
His last match should probably be when he loses though, that seems like the point. Normally I'd agree but this entire run has been a feel good party run. Let's finish it off with a feel good win as well. I think the Bucks should win, but if this is all being booked and picked by Sting, he'll do what he thinks matters more.
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Post by doomish on Jan 13, 2024 8:59:41 GMT -5
Selfishly, I cannot think of a worse scenario than Sting going out to the Young Bucks. Going out to one of the top tag teams in the world, one of the founders of the company, and two guys who will make him look incredible more then most teams, is not a bad way to go out honestly If it had to be a tag match, there weren't more better picks that they haven't already faced. The Bucks could use retiring Sting for this new run, and no wrestler retiring should really end their careers with a win imo Gotta respectfully disagree. While I admittedly have never, ever been a fan of the Young Bucks, I just believe the end should come at the elevation of a younger team/person. Ideally, Darby would be the guy to do it, but I get that Sting doesn't want to do a singles match. I agree that wrestlers shouldn't usually end their career with a win, but as unselfish as Sting has been in his career, it almost feels right/okay to send him out with a win. If I were booking the match, I'd have Darby get the pin. It doesn't hurt the Bucks, it's not Sting getting the visual pinfall, and Sting goes out with a win. I think it would also be a cool little blip to have Sting stay undefeated in AEW.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 13, 2024 19:02:54 GMT -5
Going out to one of the top tag teams in the world, one of the founders of the company, and two guys who will make him look incredible more then most teams, is not a bad way to go out honestly If it had to be a tag match, there weren't more better picks that they haven't already faced. The Bucks could use retiring Sting for this new run, and no wrestler retiring should really end their careers with a win imo Gotta respectfully disagree. While I admittedly have never, ever been a fan of the Young Bucks, I just believe the end should come at the elevation of a younger team/person. Ideally, Darby would be the guy to do it, but I get that Sting doesn't want to do a singles match. I agree that wrestlers shouldn't usually end their career with a win, but as unselfish as Sting has been in his career, it almost feels right/okay to send him out with a win. If I were booking the match, I'd have Darby get the pin. It doesn't hurt the Bucks, it's not Sting getting the visual pinfall, and Sting goes out with a win. I think it would also be a cool little blip to have Sting stay undefeated in AEW. If Sting won I guess Darby would also win which would give him a rub. Ideally, if they win, Sting gives Darby the pinfall as a passing of the torch
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 14, 2024 21:22:14 GMT -5
His last match should probably be when he loses though, that seems like the point. Normally I'd agree but this entire run has been a feel good party run. Let's finish it off with a feel good win as well. Yeah, I'm cool with whatever they choose to do, so long as it's executed well, but it's definitely one of those cases where if the legend doesn't go out on his shield, I'm fine with it. Like, it's weird to describe, I guess, but Sting feels like he's from another era...which I mean in a good way. He's not just from the Monday Night War era: Sting is from the "golden era", the end of the territories, the midst of the 80s boom, he rose to prominence during Flair's reign on top, he was Crockett's/WCW's answer to height of his powers Hulk-@#$%ing-Hogan, he gave Vader one of his most iconic feuds ever over 30 years ago to fully get him over in America...all of that is before he stopped bleaching his hair, and THAT'S before he started wearing white face paint! It's why him winning all his matches and getting to no sell some big offense along the way doesn't feel like it's hurting anyone and is just too awesome not to do, you know? It's like reading Tolkien; in all the Middle-Earth stories, the constant vibe, whether explicitly stated or implied, is "the heroes of the golden age are long gone, what we see now is but a shadow of what came before". Well, if current wrestling is the Third Age, then Sting feels like he comes from the First Age, and nobody would expect Tolkien to write a story where one of the larger than life figures from the founding of Middle-Earth would come back in the current era and job out to a knight of Minas Tirith or something, so why force it? If he does want to go out on his back, so be it; if he wins, so be it.
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Post by Main Event Mark on Jan 14, 2024 21:47:33 GMT -5
Not sure why, but when I saw them, I had the feeling they were going to no longer be "Young Bucks" and say they now want to be referred to as The Jacksons or something.
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