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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 25, 2024 15:39:31 GMT -5
I sure as hell wouldn't bring Brock back Oh yeah, that dream match with Walter aint happening now. I'd expect to hear that a few more wrestlers knew about this too. Taker, Cena, Brock - weren't they the three that went to Vince's birthday dinner when he quit first time round? Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:39:58 GMT -5
There's also no way HHH, Nick Khan and everyone else didn't know this whole time either. Ugh. How do we know this? If you don't think essentially the guy running the business side and the guy running creative...once of which is married into the family, had no idea what was going on as Vince is sharing explicit videos and photos with the tech crew...yea I dunno what to tell you.
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Post by castletonsnob on Jan 25, 2024 15:40:57 GMT -5
Let's be real, nothing is going to happen to Vince. He's a rich white man, which means he's untouchable.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:41:19 GMT -5
Triple H has to go down as well in my book as there is no way on earth he didn't know about these things let alone his own failings and I imagine he has a bunch of skeletons in his closet himself so he can go to hell to. I hope a lot of the talent working in WWE have second thoughts on staying with this rotten company I think due to "Papa H" people forget that from the start Triple H was a rutheless politician, willing to shake hands and bury anyone on his way to the top. Not gonna accuse him of having any skeletons in his closet myself, but he absolutely would ignore any sort of abuse.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 15:41:35 GMT -5
I don't know if I can do this. I can't imagine any way that the current people in charge of the shows I do enjoy like HHH/HBK didn't know. I'm kinda with Allie on this one, except maybe not a full blown destruction but a period of time where all the shows are postponed and shit can actually change but I'm also not dumb enough to think that would change anything. They'd just wait it out. At the end of the day, this is still pro wrestling. Vince should have been out of the business years ago, but more specifically after 2022, and he still came back. To regular media, it's still a circus, and the pro wrestling media needs their access and won't stand up for it. Vince associated himself with the ONE guy that should have made the mainstream media, AND law enforcement snap to attention and want to take him down, and they STILL didn't try to take him down.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jan 25, 2024 15:41:38 GMT -5
While I'm sure Stephanie, Paul, Shane and whoever else knew Vince was dodgy I'm not too comfortable saying "They knew! Get rid of them all!"
They knew what Vince wanted them to know. Think of how disgusted we are reading all that, now imagine reading it about your own Dad.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 25, 2024 15:41:50 GMT -5
If you don't think essentially the guy running the business side and the guy running creative...once of which is married into the family, had no idea what was going on as Vince is sharing explicit videos and photos with the tech crew...yea I dunno what to tell you. thank you for responding, i really didn't want to get into explaining that myself and i sincerely appreciate it this is awful
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:42:03 GMT -5
I'm feeling sick reading this. And this is only one complaint. How many MORE people did Vince and his enablers affect? How many looked the other way? It keeps getting worse the more I read. Bryan Alvarez, a few moments ago on Observer Live, asked "how many other NDA's are 'unenforceable'?" and that's also genuinely terrifying. Wealthy people in power are genuinely frightening, man...playing with people's lives like this. I hope everyone involved on the WWE end receives the utmost consequences (but knowing corporate life, I'm not holding my breath). Yea we only know about this because Vince decided to not pay this NDA...what about all the other ones?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 15:42:08 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that dream match with Walter aint happening now. I'd expect to hear that a few more wrestlers knew about this too. Taker, Cena, Brock - weren't they the three that went to Vince's birthday dinner when he quit first time round? Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. Not making light of anything, but I misread that as Joe Gacy.
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Post by Legion on Jan 25, 2024 15:44:16 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that dream match with Walter aint happening now. I'd expect to hear that a few more wrestlers knew about this too. Taker, Cena, Brock - weren't they the three that went to Vince's birthday dinner when he quit first time round? Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. That's very true. As I've said in other posts, people may have know bits, but only Johnny Ace and Brock seem to be named as knowing it all (so far). Vince was doing this for a long time, I'm sure he knew all the tricks to cover up what needed to be covered, and bragged about just enough to make himself look 'big' to the boys.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 15:44:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that dream match with Walter aint happening now. I'd expect to hear that a few more wrestlers knew about this too. Taker, Cena, Brock - weren't they the three that went to Vince's birthday dinner when he quit first time round? Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. Vince isn't the kind of guy who tries to hide this with his life. Vince is the kind of guy who brags to his inner circle about it.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:44:21 GMT -5
While I'm sure Stephanie, Paul, Shane and whoever else knew Vince was dodgy I'm not too comfortable saying "They knew! Get rid of them all!" They knew what Vince wanted them to know. Think of how disgusted we are reading all that, now imagine reading it about your own Dad. It trickled down to multiple executives (unamed at the moment of the suites,short of Lauriatis) and wrestlers like Brock. People that have been on top for decades will know SOMETHING. Maybe not "Vince raped her in the hallway" specifics but absolutely "Vince has signed multiple NDAs for sexual assault" and more.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:44:40 GMT -5
So the Mr McMahon character was actually Vince turned down about 75%.
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Post by jm on Jan 25, 2024 15:45:12 GMT -5
Oh the horror stories some of the Divas must have. Consider the fact of many of them had to kiss and make out with Vince on camera. I shudder to think how he treated them behind closed doors.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Jan 25, 2024 15:45:33 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that dream match with Walter aint happening now. I'd expect to hear that a few more wrestlers knew about this too. Taker, Cena, Brock - weren't they the three that went to Vince's birthday dinner when he quit first time round? Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. I think as well, the personality cult that I mentioned a few pages back extends to wrestlers as well. You hear all these wrestlers talk about how he made them and is their hero and father figure and whatever else, it's again all part of the manipulation because no one wants to believe this kind of shit about someone they hold in such high esteem. It's possible they knew and didn't want to believe it or something, I don't know.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:45:35 GMT -5
Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. Vince isn't the kind of guy who tries to hide this with his life. Vince is the kind of guy who brags to his inner circle about it. Vince has never been punished for anything he's done, why would he hide anything? People like him brag to show you how far they can go.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jan 25, 2024 15:47:17 GMT -5
HHH I have no clue, but just ask yourself what you sincerely think HBK was getting up to in the 90s. because the bear skin rug seems a hell of a lot realer now
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:47:22 GMT -5
Vince isn't the kind of guy who tries to hide this with his life. Vince is the kind of guy who brags to his inner circle about it. Vince has never been punished for anything he's done, why would he hide anything? People like him brag to show you how far they can go. Hell, as someone posted, there is a TV SEGMENT about Vince sexually trafficking Stephanie. That is definitely braging to the world he is untouchable.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Jan 25, 2024 15:47:45 GMT -5
While I'm sure Stephanie, Paul, Shane and whoever else knew Vince was dodgy I'm not too comfortable saying "They knew! Get rid of them all!" They knew what Vince wanted them to know. Think of how disgusted we are reading all that, now imagine reading it about your own Dad. I don't disagree with that, but I think WWE as it exists now is the fruit of the poisonous tree. The whole company was grown and built into what it is by Vince McMahon. I don't know that I agree that the company deserves the death penalty or thousands of people deserve to lose their jobs over this, but I just can't fathom how, if even a scintilla of this is true, you separate Vince McMahon from the company he created. This all happened on WWE, as a corporation's, watch. I'm bad about making sports comparisons, but I can't discern how this is any different from Penn State being severely punished for allowing Jerry Sandusky to flourish and victimize within the framework of its football program.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:48:13 GMT -5
HHH I have no clue, but just ask yourself what you sincerely think HBK was getting up to in the 90s. because the bear skin rug seems a hell of a lot realer now Coke head, Playboy, know asshole , golden boy of Vince?Absolutely is involved on something
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