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Post by XIII on Jan 25, 2024 15:48:23 GMT -5
I give it no later than tomorrow when TKO announces that this dude is gone. They cannot keep him on in any capacity once this gets traction. I’d imagine that adding the Rock to the board is a smokescreen that they tried to get out there to deflect from this and get ahead of things.
Either way Vince is a billionaire and likely won’t face any real consequences, but he’s going to be removed with the quickness. What an unbelievable piece of shit. Anyone else that was complicit or knew and did nothing is also scum.(which is likely a lot of people…including people that are still there)
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Post by hitman777 on Jan 25, 2024 15:48:59 GMT -5
I hope Ms Grant gets the help she needs and the justice she deserves.
I can't help but also think about what poor Ashley Massaro went through too, today.
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Legion
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Post by Legion on Jan 25, 2024 15:50:03 GMT -5
While I'm sure Stephanie, Paul, Shane and whoever else knew Vince was dodgy I'm not too comfortable saying "They knew! Get rid of them all!" They knew what Vince wanted them to know. Think of how disgusted we are reading all that, now imagine reading it about your own Dad. It trickled down to multiple executives (unamed at the moment of the suites,short of Lauriatis) and wrestlers like Brock. People that have been on top for decades will know SOMETHING. Maybe not "Vince raped her in the hallway" specifics but absolutely "Vince has signed multiple NDAs for sex ual assault" and more. We don't know it was even as much as that. I'm sure they all knew Vince was screwing around etc. but that doesn't mean they didnt think it was consensual and the NDAs were just cos of money and Linda. We may find out differently, and certainly Johnny Ace seems to have know, but not beyond that as yet. |
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:50:40 GMT -5
With all of the Johnny Ace stuff...I wonder if Bryan and Brie Danielson are having an uncomfortable conversation today.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 25, 2024 15:51:49 GMT -5
It trickled down to multiple executives (unamed at the moment of the suites,short of Lauriatis) and wrestlers like Brock. People that have been on top for decades will know SOMETHING. Maybe not "Vince raped her in the hallway" specifics but absolutely "Vince has signed multiple NDAs for sex ual assault" and more. We don't know it was even as much as that. I'm sure they all knew Vince was screwing around etc. but that doesn't mean they didnt think it was consensual and the NDAs were just cos of money and Linda. We may find out differently, and certainly Johnny Ace seems to have know, but not beyond that as yet. Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. |
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Post by Legion on Jan 25, 2024 15:51:54 GMT -5
Brock is a safe bet given his alleged involvement in this, but the others it’s hard to say. There have been stories about people who would have dinner and drinks with their neighbor for years, not knowing he was holding women hostage in his basement (one interview about this, “Dead giveaway”, became a meme for a while several years ago). John Gacy’s neighbors took his word that that foul smell was dead rodents in the crawlspace. You may think you know someone, but if they want to hide a secret hard enough, they will. I think as well, the personality cult that I mentioned a few pages back extends to wrestlers as well. You hear all these wrestlers talk about how he made them and is their hero and father figure and whatever else, it's again all part of the manipulation because no one wants to believe this kind of shit about someone they hold in such high esteem. It's possible they knew and didn't want to believe it or something, I don't know. Vince is a total groomer. Allegedly he was abused as a child himself wasn't he? It's not surprising he then learnt those behaviours and used them later in life. |
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 25, 2024 15:52:14 GMT -5
I know it’s a long shot, but I don’t want to see Vince get meme’d ever again.
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Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 15:52:54 GMT -5
We don't know it was even as much as that. I'm sure they all knew Vince was screwing around etc. but that doesn't mean they didnt think it was consensual and the NDAs were just cos of money and Linda. We may find out differently, and certainly Johnny Ace seems to have know, but not beyond that as yet. Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. Bro There is no way, absolutely none that Vince just did all of this stuff in a vacuum and no one knew, there have been to many scandals over the years and to much known behavior to remotely believe that. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:55:28 GMT -5
We don't know it was even as much as that. I'm sure they all knew Vince was screwing around etc. but that doesn't mean they didnt think it was consensual and the NDAs were just cos of money and Linda. We may find out differently, and certainly Johnny Ace seems to have know, but not beyond that as yet. Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. he shared with people in the TECH CREW and used it as a bargain to resign Brock. To say people on top didnt know is absolute naive at best, willingly ignorant at worst |
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Post by Moppy on Jan 25, 2024 15:55:50 GMT -5
I hope Ms Grant gets the help she needs and the justice she deserves. I can't help but also think about what poor Ashley Massaro went through too, today. Well said. This above all else. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Jan 25, 2024 15:55:59 GMT -5
Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. Bro There is no way, absolutely none that Vince just did all of this stuff in a vacuum and no one knew, there have been to many scandals over the years and to much known behavior to remotely believe that. In life and in law it's not always only what you know, but what you reasonably should have known. No one can say with certainty that the powers that be in the WWE absolutely knew what Vince was up to. But I am willing to go out on a limb and say that reasonable men in their position(s) exercising ordinary care should have been able to figure it out. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 25, 2024 15:56:24 GMT -5
If you don't think essentially the guy running the business side and the guy running creative...once of which is married into the family, had no idea what was going on as Vince is sharing explicit videos and photos with the tech crew...yea I dunno what to tell you. |
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Post by SneakMan on Jan 25, 2024 15:56:25 GMT -5
I'd believe that HHH didn't know about Vince's acts if it wasn't for the way he actively covered for Bill DeMott and Patrick Clark. You lose the assumption of plausible deniability after you cover for abusers on two prior occasions, IMO.
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Post by khali on Jan 25, 2024 15:56:41 GMT -5
I understand the hesitancy to say that HHH, Khan and whoever else knew, but you must take into account what the allegations say. At minimum, we know that Vince showed pictures and talked to many, many people. Now maybe all of them didn’t know the full story. But we have evidence that he wasn’t being totally quiet about this.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 15:56:59 GMT -5
With all of the Johnny Ace stuff...I wonder if Bryan and Brie Danielson are having an uncomfortable conversation today. Is Brie's mom even still with him? |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 25, 2024 15:57:08 GMT -5
This is really an "The entire company should get the Death Penalty" (as in be put permanently out of business) moment. Come on now, I know you're upset, but you dont really want thousands of people to lose their jobs over Vince being a pervert. That wont help anyone. Yeah, it’s kind of like a Vegas casino. If you went to one of those places at any point from the 1940’s through the 80’s, you had a good idea of who owned them. Then legitimate corporations took over, and while I’m sure there are still shady practices in the industry, we have better stewards than literal mobsters. Just because those guys are gone, Caesar’s and the Flamingo didn’t have to be closed down forever. |
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Post by raymondo316 on Jan 25, 2024 15:58:27 GMT -5
The timing of this after Nick Khan openly praised Vince
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 15:59:22 GMT -5
Come on now, I know you're upset, but you dont really want thousands of people to lose their jobs over Vince being a pervert. That wont help anyone. Yeah, it’s kind of like a Vegas casino. If you went to one of those places at any point from the 1940’s through the 80’s, you had a good idea of who owned them. Then legitimate corporations took over, and while I’m sure there are still shady practices in the industry, we have better stewards than literal mobsters. Just because those guys are gone, Caesar’s and the Flamingo didn’t have to be closed down forever. This went as soon as 2020. it isnt "Well the mafia sold it years ago" situation. Also all Casinos should be illegal and closed down forever but thats another topic |
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 16:00:23 GMT -5
I'd believe that HHH didn't know about Vince's acts if it wasn't for the way he actively covered for Bill DeMott and Patrick Clark. You lose the assumption of plausible deniability after you cover for abusers on two prior occasions, IMO. Triple H really rehabbed his image with the whole Papa H stuff didn't he? Dude was a ruthless politics player that would stab anyone in the back in a second for a huge number of years. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 16:01:57 GMT -5
I'd believe that HHH didn't know about Vince's acts if it wasn't for the way he actively covered for Bill DeMott and Patrick Clark. You lose the assumption of plausible deniability after you cover for abusers on two prior occasions, IMO. Triple H really rehabbed his image with the whole Papa H stuff didn't he? Dude was a ruthless politics player that would stab anyone in the back in a second for a huge number of years. The only way he doesn't know is if he didn't WANT to know, and ran away every time someone tried to tell him. Because there's no way in hell that someone didn't at least TRY to tell him. |
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